New sword ban in UK

kowloon

So I've heard of this new ban on "Samurai" swords starting in the UK next week.
The ban only applies to "curved blades, sharpened on one side", does anyone else think this ban just takes the p155 out of both sides of the argument for and against swords by banning only one style?
Are legislators really that stupid?
Is the UK turning into an ultra-nanny state?

Adam

Sorry, what?
Have there been many sword-related deaths/murders in the UK??

leninbenjamin

Mirror wrote: »

Sorry, what?
Have there been many sword-related deaths/murders in the UK??

i dunno, but i also know for a fact that a coppers life was saved by a vigilante with one.

kowloon

I only heard about it today, they must have kept it quiet since the toy gun ban.

Thrill

The Jedi are, understandably, upset by this proposed ban.......

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/05/jedi_speak_out_on_uk_sword_law/

kowloon

Thrill wrote: »

The Jedi are, understandably, upset by this proposed ban.......

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/05/jedi_speak_out_on_uk_sword_law/

They shouldn't worry, light sabers don't have curved single sided blade and are hence unaffected by the ban :pac:

Fringe

Damn. Just when I got my new sharpened one sided blade and was moving to the UK.

Adam

kowloon wrote: »

They shouldn't worry, light sabers don't have curved single sided blade and are hence unaffected by the ban :pac:

linky wrote:

The UK's Home Office today issued a consultation paper ahead of legislation intended to ban Samurai blades by the end of the year. In a bid to "protect the public", replica Samurai swords will become illegal to import, sell and <b>hire</b> in Britain.

Excuse me? Who's hiring samurai swords??

Stercus Accidit

Absolute bollox.

Of course a double edged claymore braveheart type sword is harmless by comparison.

Adam

Motosam wrote: »

Absolute bollox.

Of course a double edged claymore braveheart type sword is harmless by comparison.

+1

I demand to know what exactly was going on that they felt such a ban was required??!

Blisterman

Mirror wrote: »

Sorry, what?
Have there been many sword-related deaths/murders in the UK??

You've obviously never heard of the crusades.

Thrill

From what I've read after a quick google, I believe this ban was announced a year ago and was scheduled to come into force in April of this year.

Events involving swords must have been high back then.








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Voodu Child

I don't have any need/want for a Samurai sword, couldn't give a fcuk if they banned them tbh. Don't see why anyone would care.

The Real B-man

Mirror wrote: »

Sorry, what?
Have there been many sword-related deaths/murders in the UK??

Glasgow.

Thrill

The Real B-man wrote: »

Glasgow.

Swords ban to beat violent crime

The measures are the latest steps from the Scottish Executive to curb the problem of knife crime.

They come weeks after a nationwide knife amnesty.

A total of 12,645 blades - including lock knives, machetes, swords, meat cleavers, bayonets and axes - were handed in during the five-week amnesty.

kowloon

I wonder if theres any point, aren't most of the stabbings done with kitchen knives, stanley blades and screwdrivers?

I seem to remember a call to ban baseball bats a while back (in this country) as nobody really buys them to play baseball.

Sherifu

Seems rather silly.

Mr. CooL ICE

Mirror wrote: »

Excuse me? Who's hiring samurai swords??

Retired ninjas who seek revenge, of course. Duhhh!

kowloon

LordChessington wrote: »

Retired ninjas who seek revenge, of course. Duhhh!

Killbill is on RTE at the moment, kids imitating movies perhaps?

humanji

Mirror wrote: »

Excuse me? Who's hiring samurai swords??

Samurai who've just come into the country and had their swords confiscated by customs. Obviously!

ScumLord

This measure is sure to stop criminals using knives and swords in crime, well done.

Beelzebub

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/staffordshire-news/2007/12/14/victim-reveals-samurai-sword-attack-injuries-97319-20250034/

Lucky to be alive judging from the picture. A couple of inches lower...


Samurai sword ban link here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7139724.stm

TPD

I'm guessing that this means all samurai sword replicas being sold in the north currently will be sold off at a bargain price to clear stock before the ban? Must take a trip to Derry.

Krieg

I think its a bit stupid alrite. Although it does seem that they are becoming the weapon of choice
I watch a lot of shows like "Road wars" and such and you do notice that a lot of criminals carry swords. One episode showed a traffic cop being attacked by a scumbag with one.

I have a quite a weapon collection, much of which consists of swords. They did start to seem a bit boring when loads of people started buying them . No doubt the same ban will come here.

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Asbad wrote: »

I think its a bit stupid alrite. Although it does seem that they are becoming the weapon of choice

Completely stupid policy.

Like banning Vodka/Dutch Gold because it's the tipple of choice for the ASBO crowd. They'll just move on to something else.

Spyral

just get straight blades or blades sharpened on both sides...

Overheal

The paper notes that genuine Samurai swords would not attract the same penalties, and there are also exemptions for other specific martial arts weapons. "We recognise it is the cheap, easily available Samurai swords which are being used in crime and not the genuine, more expensive samurai swords which are of interest to collectors and martial art enthusiasts," Home Office Minister Vernon Coaker. "As such as we are putting forward exemptions for these groups."

The Jedi have nothing to worry about really.

seamus

Or they'll just return to the 8-inch cleaver that you get with every kitchen knife set. Easier to hide and easier to use.

I imagine carrying swords is something that Joe scumbag sees as a badge of honour (of sorts). Like carrying a gun, except its very visible and makes them feel like they're in a movie. Don't forget that these people are idiots.

I imagine it'll still be possible to legally get your hands on one in the UK, you'll just have a few more hopps to jump through.

Manic Moran

kowloon wrote: »

So I've heard of this new ban on "Samurai" swords starting in the UK next week.
The ban only applies to "curved blades, sharpened on one side", does anyone else think this ban just takes the p155 out of both sides of the argument for and against swords by banning only one style?
Are legislators really that stupid?
Is the UK turning into an ultra-nanny state?

I've heard it described as an "Idonlikedalookadat" law.

Those of us who shoot rifles are well familiar with laws banning certain firearms purely on aesthetic grounds. We've been fighting them for years, but it's amazing how many people will think that one thing is more dangerous than an other simply because it's shaped differently. It's mainly to do with ignorance. Most people are familiar enough with cars to know that putting a spoiler on the back, lowering the suspension, and putting on a louder exhaust will not, in fact, make the car any faster or more likely to break laws. Less is known about swords, and even less about guns. Instead, if it 'looks scary' it must be bad!

NTM

Dyr

This is what happens when people think of the children

Maximilian

Its a shame that legitimate uses of swords will be curtailed. Um...

Still, whats the point. Its like the stupid airport rule banning liquids over 100ml. Those pesky terrorists would never dream of something like the 99ml liquid bomb surely.

mickeythemonkey

Thrill wrote: »

From what I've read after a quick google, I believe this ban was announced a year ago and was scheduled to come into force in April of this year.

Events involving swords must have been high back then.








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I presume the government was too,if one person wants to hurt another they will do it the type of weapon is irrelevant it could be a bananna !

Manic Moran

Klaatu verata nichto...nichtu... nich<cough>

Thread necromancy!

NTM

Run_to_da_hills

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart". Hebrews 4:12

TheZohanS

mickeythemonkey wrote: »

I presume the government was too,if one person wants to hurt another they will do it the type of weapon is irrelevant it could be a bananna !

Indeed.

I challenge you to a duel, you can use a banana and I shall use a sword.

Tar.Aldarion

Well since I didn't need read this first time round, stupid ban, I have swords, they are actually suggesting you ban one type? LIke I can open the cabinet and hand over my samurai one and leave the rest hanging or I could you know, sharpen the other side?

BaconZombie

They are already banned here, it was brought in with the new hand gun laws.

994

Are scimitars banned too?

Manic Moran

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Hebrews 4:12

Well, if we're quoting sword scripture...

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

NTM

Capt'n Midnight

Fringe wrote: »

Damn. Just when I got my new sharpened one sided blade and was moving to the UK.

time to sharpen the other side too

Run_to_da_hills

Manic Moran wrote: »

Well, if we're quoting sword scripture...

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

NTM

And quoting Shakespear, "The pen is mightier than the Sword",

mickeythemonkey

Unless your a porn superstar i think you might loose!

mickeythemonkey

TheZohan wrote: »

Indeed.

I challenge you to a duel, you can use a banana and I shall use a sword.

Unless your a porn superstar i think you might loose!

Raze_them_all

Am i the only one that figures that this ban is pointless, it's like the handgun ban there trying to bring in here.
The people out stabbing and shooting people aren't the one's who legally obtain them

storker

Adam wrote: »

Excuse me? Who's hiring samurai swords??

Some villagers in the Cotswolds. Apparently somebody keeps stealing their rice...

Stork

Fringe

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

time to sharpen the other side too

Over a year too late

kowloon

Manic Moran wrote: »

Klaatu verata nichto...nichtu... nich<cough>

Thread necromancy!

NTM

Next they'll be banning boomsticks :mad:.

Manic Moran

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And quoting Shakespear, "The pen is mightier than the Sword",

Shakespeare obviously never found himself on the wrong end of an AK-47.

NTM