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I cannot speak for IPSA or the DOJ representative who drafted the letter.
I can only speak for myself - I am horrified - at
a) the fact that these issues were not addressed already by the FCP and that this is even an issue and
that people will jump up and say "my sport is ok - pass the lemon creams" in response to this rather than "jaysus - they can't do that coz...."
By all accounts the DOJ monitor this board and as such will have seen much discussion of the sport of Practical Pistol - they must read the Digest or else why are they posting in it hence they saw Last Months Article on IPSC.
Yet, they can make a statement that "with a stroke of the pen" can make a sport illegal in Ireland.
The FCP have no excuse - you cannot seriously tell me that a position like this was reached without consulting them - if they did then it looks like they just passed the vaseline around - if not then what differnce would it make if IPSA was on it???
This is not a few lads behind a shed somewhere. These are serious sports in which a great many people from Ireland compete at an international level.,
The PPC guys have an international coming up in which they expect to do very well - a good few from my own club - they do not need this hanging over their heads.
Ireland was planning to hold it's first IPSC Level III (International Open) this year but due to various uncertainties (some were DOJ related but I garauntee you nobody saw this flying pig come over the horizon) it had to be postponed until next year.
There was massive interest in the international community among people wishing to attend this competition. This was going to be peoples summer holidays - bring the kids - see Ireland - shoot at the first Irish International. When we go to internationals in other countries this season - there will be hundreds of Irish competitors at Internationls worldwide this year - I, personally, will be attending up to nine shoots abroad this year alone - what do we tell them??
I sincerely hope that this is all rubbish and I have just been venting for no reason.
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As far as I am aware, seats in the FCP are by invitation. The DoJ issued the invites. I don't think there's a question of elections or votes.
The IPSA and the NTSA can't be in the SSAI at the same time or else the NTSA will get a kicking from the ISSF (and probably be disaffiliated). It's a sh*tty situation to be in but there's very little any Irish shooter can do about it.
So we just cut lose the blokes who are not sitting at the table with us
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So we just cut lose the blokes who are not sitting at the table with us:mad:
No. I'm not saying that. I was merely explaining why the IPSA is not in the SSAI.
I have no idea why the DoJ did not extend an invite to the IPSA to be on the FCP.
I don't know if the FCP were consulted before the DoJ decided to send that letter. Even if they were consulted, they're a consultative body. Their opinions are not binding and the DoJ can turn around and decide "We've talked to the FCP but we don't care what they said, send the letter".
I'm sure the FCP will at some stage tell us whether or not they were consulted before the letter was sent and, if they were, what their opinion was. I wouldn't judge them before you hear from them.0 -
I cannot speak for IPSA or the DOJ representative who drafted the letter.
I can only speak for myself - I am horrified - at
a) the fact that these issues were not addressed already by the FCP and that this is even an issue and
Range construction was addressed by the FCP. It's in the briefing document.
That's a totally unhelpful attitude. A great many statements were made in the OP and a great many were wrong. Most of us were concerned with the veracity of the statement itself and then with the letter that prompted it. Most people when faced with a statement that: [insert your sport here] is finished, will strive first to see if it's true before looking at the bigger picture. that people will jump up and say "my sport is ok - pass the lemon creams" in response to this rather than "jaysus - they can't do that coz...."
From the start of range authorisations in this country back as far as 2006, it was fairly obvious that IPSC shooting here would have problems meeting range safety standards that everyone else was being made to meet. Do the IPSA feel that they are a special case and that these critreria shouldn't apply to them?The FCP have no excuse - you cannot seriously tell me that a position like this was reached without consulting them - if they did then it looks like they just passed the vaseline around - if not then what differnce would it make if IPSA was on it???
As an example: Midlands have spent an enormous amount of money on a pistol range with a backstop over twenty feet high. Even with that, the targets may not be moved back towards the firing point from their position at the butts. Other ranges have had to fit baffles and raise backstops to meet the standards.
What exactly is the situation regarding PPC? I refer to the letter in the ISD and what bearing it has on PPC shooting.The PPC guys have an international coming up in which they expect to do very well - a good few from my own club - they do not need this hanging over their heads.0 -
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Double-Alpha wrote: »Glad to hear that you wont be doin' hand-stands in the nude, the image is very disturbing.
Good. Let's keep it that way!
(And at least if you see me arriving at the Fianna Fail Ard Fheis on a polo pony you'll know to avoid Stephen's Green
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