House prices guide?

luckat

Is there such a thing as a website that has a guide to the price you can expect to pay (or get) on a particular street in Dublin? This seems to be standard info in the US, but I haven't seen it in Ireland.

SkepticOne

luckat wrote: »

Is there such a thing as a website that has a guide to the price you can expect to pay (or get) on a particular street in Dublin? This seems to be standard info in the US, but I haven't seen it in Ireland.

No, that information is not available to the public in Ireland.

luckat

Whoah, think of the millions you could make with the advertising on a website that did that - even in Dublin alone at first! The traffic would be bleedin' massive.

Colonel Sanders

SkepticOne wrote: »

No, that information is not available to the public in Ireland.

heaven forbid you might actually be able to find out what your over priced house is actually worth.

luckat

Well, it's not what it's *worth* that I'm looking for; it's what it's *valued at*. Different animal altogether, dear.

patrickolee

I'm guessing its either for insurance, or re-mortgaging purposes? If for the latter, depending on who the lender/agent are, you should be able to get the valuation done for free. If not, it will cost around 100E. I'm not aware of any website, I suppose there might be privacy and data protection issues.

luckat

You're guessing wrong, Patrick. I'm interested both from the point of view of possibly selling my house, and from the point of view of buying another.

I know, for instance, that at one end of my long and varied road houses sell for about €600,000, whereas at the other end they were going for over €900,000 last year. But what that means today is another question.

Data protection and privacy issues don't prevent this being a normal tool in other countries. I think no one has set up such a site, simply.

patrickolee

Hmmm, data protection laws state that data can only be used for the purposes for which the data was gathered... so who would have the powers to force estate agents to release the data and for what reason? ESRI? But that data'd be for 'social research'. Not providing price comparison for trader uppers. They could never release info for a street by street level.

Lot can change in a year eh?

Good luck with your sale/purchase.

dewsbury

Ring your estate agent and ask them what price your house is worth.

Don't pay for a valuation as the estate agents should be happy to view the house and give a rough idea.

Mellor

luckat wrote: »

You're guessing wrong, Patrick. I'm interested both from the point of view of possibly selling my house, and from the point of view of buying another.

I know, for instance, that at one end of my long and varied road houses sell for about €600,000, whereas at the other end they were going for over €900,000 last year. But what that means today is another question.

Data protection and privacy issues don't prevent this being a normal tool in other countries. I think no one has set up such a site, simply.

Two houses next door could go for massively different prices, on the same day.
The location makes some difference, but there is plenty more too.
Info on house prices would be misleading, probably do more harm than good, getting people hopes up etc

seamus

It should technically be public information - when the house is sold, the revenue commissioners have to be informed of the sale and the price paid.

patrickolee

Why would that be public?

seamus

Because a surprising amount of stuff is. (Why did I say "should"? I meant "may" )

At the very least, it should be possible to do a title deed search, which may or may not show Revenue stamps on stamp duty paid.

The question is really best posed to a solicitor who specialises in property - they'll be able to tell you straight out whether or not the information can be gotten.

SkepticOne

The land registry or registry of deeds (I can't remember which) holds information on who owns what property and the prices at which it changed hands down through the years. However there is a fee to access this information per property. If a house last changed hands 5 years ago then the price information is of no interest to you, but you will need to pay anyway. You would run up a big bill trying to find out what a particular property is worth on this basis.

What you want is a web page that would show you the the price that properties last changed hands for in the last, say, six months all in one go for a given area and for nothing or a very small fee. Information in this form is currently not made available to the public.

Patrickof

The land registry site does not include the prices paid from properties within its publicly accessible pages (even when you pay for it).

The price paid for a private treaty sale is exactly that, "private" and only known to the agents, the vendor, the purchaser, the lender and the revenue. Only the purchaser and vendor have the "right" to publish that information.

It should be public.

But consider this - would you all share the details of your salaries? (if i start a job somehwere I'd like to know I'm getting paid similar to others in the same job)

luckat

The trouble with asking an estate agent is that the agent may not have a great take on it. Many years ago, I met an estate agent at the door of my cottage, and he asked to have a look at it.

He was really impressed, and with a gasp said he could easily get up to €17,000 for it. I told him that I'd just signed a deal to sell it for €28,000!

As for privacy issues, difficulty of street-by-street data, etc, this is typical of cautious Irish people: "It's never been done, so it never should be done."

This is *standard* information in the US.

patrickolee

As for privacy issues, difficulty of street-by-street data, etc, this is typical of cautious Irish people: "It's never been done, so it never should be done."

Eh.. no it's not being cautious, its simply a different law, that's why it doesn't happen here.

Diairist

if you're a southsider this may help:

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewforum.php?f=23

within that you can change to another area of Dublin or 'rest of Ireland'.

tonymahoney

Another good website is http://www.treesdontgrowtothesky.com/

Blackjack

Available Gratis in the UK - all you need to do is to provide the postcode and it lists available options (Street, distance, Immediate code for example) in the immediate area, number of sales in recent years and the price for each property, listing their address also.

Try postcode EH7 5QG if you need an example.

I'd say a not having postcodes is preventing this being done easily, but it should still be possible, if the demand was there for it.

antoinolachtnai

There is actually someone in the industry who has the main parts of such a database, stretching back to the 1900s. Some day it will see the light of day, I'm sure.