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newbie first build advice

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  • 06-04-2008 12:53pm
    #1
    real_484
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭


    hi there

    plan on buidling soon, max 1400euro, used for some gaming, FPS(crysis and COD4, bioshock are the ones i want to be able to play at a good framerate), photoshop and for watching tv series that i have downloaded. Want to have a good screen 24', would love the 9800gx2 graphic card but too costly for me at the moment. Not too interested in overclocking as i don't really understand it. Was going to try and build it myself.

    all the components are from www1.hardwareversand.de and I want to make sure everything will fit together and match my requirments

    Article Availability Price per unit Quantity Price
    ASUS P5K-E/Wifi AP, Sockel 775, ATX (wifi main requirment)

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-08 104,68 € 104,68 €
    Coolermaster Cosmos ohne Netzteil silber (quiet case and looks good)

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-08 155,13 € 155,13 €
    ATX-Netzt.OCZ StealthXStream 600W

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-07 59,44 € 59,44 €
    NEC Opti AD7200S bulk schwarz

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 29,18 € 29,18 €
    Club3D 8800GTS, 512MB, NVIDIA Geforce 8800GTS, PCI-Express

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs Delivery date unknown 196,54 € 196,54 €
    Samsung SyncMaster 245B, 24", TCO03, 5ms, DVI

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 367,24 € 367,24 €
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB 7200,16 MB Cache

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 65,99 € 131,98 €
    4096MB-Kit Corsair TWIN2X DHX PC800/6400 CL4

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 79,24 € 79,24 €
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 boxed, 8192Kb, LGA775, 64bit, Kentsfield

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 178,53 € 178,53 €
    Scythe Ninja Plus Sockel 478,775,754,939,940

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-09 26,38 € 26,38 €
    Creative SB X-FI Xtreme Audio PCI-E

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs Delivery date unknown 53,94 € 53,94 €
    Sum: 1.382,28 € 1)



    do u guys see any problems with this build?
    thanks for the help


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    #2
    Sqaull20
    Registered Users Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Lose the soundcard, Creative are rubbish and on board sound is great..

    Drop the cpu cooler if your not going to do serious overclocking...

    Case is nice, but very expensive...

    This a quiet case, with good cooling

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/articledetail.jsp?aid=7687&agid=632 €85

    Motherboard is ok, but sli is a bit awkward with it as second pci express slot is only x4 speed ( looking for x8/x16 )

    This motherboard is faster and has two x16 pci express slots...

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/articledetail.jsp?aid=18310&agid=659 €68

    Wifi

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/articledetail.jsp?aid=7252&agid=207 €20

    €165 spared can go towards 2 x 8800gt, those will perform roughly the same as a 9800gx2....

    http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/articledetail.jsp?aid=18726&agid=554 €158 each


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    #3
    real_484
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭real_484


    thanks for that Squall20 good advice as I a little lost on the motherboards/overclocking/cooling options, infact a lot of things to do with computers, lol.

    I wasn't sure on the sli route but your option looks tempting.

    Will read up on the case, looks good again but want to read some reviews. The cosmo was the first case i saw that just really took my fancy, although it is expensive and the cooling isn't meant to be great, I just really like the bullet proof build.

    I will post back again when I have updated my selection,


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    #4
    highlydebased
    Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Onboard audio is often rubbish- I have a creative audigy and the sound is much much better than onboard

    Also go for a Corsair PSU...much more reliable


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    PogMoThoin
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    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Lose the soundcard, Creative are rubbish and on board sound is great..

    Rubbish, onboard may be good enough for music but no comparrison really for gaming. No way I'm ever goin back to onboard for gaming. Once you go X-fi you'll never go back. Explosions & gunfire etc sound so realistic. Also worth noting that my X-fi is on its 3rd motherboard.


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    Sqaull20
    Registered Users Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Rubbish, onboard may be good enough for music but no comparrison really for gaming. No way I'm ever goin back to onboard for gaming. Once you go X-fi you'll never go back. Explosions & gunfire etc sound so realistic. Also worth noting that my X-fi is on its 3rd motherboard.

    Rubbish is too strong a word, sorry..

    On board has come a long way and I find it perfectly fine for gaming, great sound with decent speakers...

    I have used that Gigabyte mobo I linked Real_484 to and sound is top notch imo...

    I think getting a sound card is a luxury item now, and should come after you have the core components set...

    A single 8800gts for 1920 by 1200 isnt ideal imo and thats why I said get rid of it...

    At that res Sli or a 9800gx2 is needed imo for Crysis and future games...


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    Fnz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    real_484 wrote: »
    ATX-Netzt.OCZ StealthXStream 600W

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-07 59,44 € 59,44 €
    Check reviews of this - IIRC one of OCZ's Stealth PSU wasn't stealthy at all
    real_484 wrote: »
    Club3D 8800GTS, 512MB, NVIDIA Geforce 8800GTS, PCI-Express

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs Delivery date unknown 196,54 € 196,54 €
    Good price - but like others say it's likely that it won't be able to impressively run new games at the 24" native 1900 x 1200 resolution.
    real_484 wrote: »
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB 7200,16 MB Cache

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch 65,99 € 131,98 €
    the newer Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB with 32mb cache can be had for €132. Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB is going for €90.
    real_484 wrote: »
    Scythe Ninja Plus Sockel 478,775,754,939,940

    The price includes VAT and excludes shipping costs and logistic costs ready for dispatch from 2008-04-09 26,38 € 26,38 €
    There has been a revised ("rev. B") version of this cooler released - hardwareversand don't mention what version this one is. I went with the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 based on this.


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    #8
    real_484
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭real_484


    thanks for all the comments all very helpful,

    ok made some adjustments based on the advice i was given, what do you guys thinks?


    DVD NEC Opti AD7200S bulk schwarz 29euro
    Samsung SyncMaster 245B, 24", TCO03, 5ms, DVI, 367euro
    4096MB-Kit Corsair TWIN2X DHX PC800/6400 CL4 , 79euro
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 boxed, 8192Kb, LGA775, 64bit, Kentsfield 178euro
    Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4L, NVIDIA nForce650i, ATX, PCI-Express 68euro
    D-Link AirPlusG DWL-G510 Wireless PCI-Adapter 18euro
    Samsung HD753LJ 750GB S-ATA II, 32MB Cache 90euro
    ATX-Netzteil Corsair TX650W 650 Watt 75euro
    2X MSI NX8800GT-T2D512E-OC, NVIDIA 8800GT, 512MB, PCI-Express 317euro
    Coolermaster Cosmos case 155euro
    MS Windows Vista home premium 64bit Englisch 92euro


    Sum: 1,471€

    Optional sound card can get at another time if people think onboard is ok?
    and cooler fan on the CPU, is this needed if no overclocking?


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    #9
    PogMoThoin
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    Change the psu to this one, it has 4x 8pin connectors (well 4x6pin with the 8pin connectors) that you need for some gpu's in the future. The 9800gx2 and 3870x2 require both 6pin and 8pin connectors. Would futureproof your choice of psu for future gpu upgrades. Only downfall is that its not modular.

    Stock cooler is fine if your not overclocking. No mention of it on their listing tho. It usually comes with boxed version of cpu.


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    #10
    Sqaull20
    Registered Users Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Go with Pog's psu and your set...

    Sweet system..


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    #11
    real_484
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭real_484


    thanks for that guys, I like the way you are thinking, have included the new power supply

    the shopping list reads as follows,

    DVD NEC Opti AD7200S bulk schwarz 29euro
    Samsung SyncMaster 245B, 24", TCO03, 5ms, DVI, 367euro
    4096MB-Kit Corsair TWIN2X DHX PC800/6400 CL4 , 79euro
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 boxed, 8192Kb, LGA775, 64bit, Kentsfield 178euro
    Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4L, NVIDIA nForce650i, ATX, PCI-Express 68euro
    D-Link AirPlusG DWL-G510 Wireless PCI-Adapter 18euro
    Samsung HD753LJ 750GB S-ATA II, 32MB Cache 90euro
    2X MSI NX8800GT-T2D512E-OC, NVIDIA 8800GT, 512MB, PCI-Express 317euro
    Coolermaster Cosmos case 155euro
    MS Windows Vista home premium 64bit Englisch 92euro
    Corsair TX750W 750 Watt 115Euro

    total 1512Euro plus 30 euro shipping

    want to do a final review of the parts myself and then off to the bank, thanks for all the help, no doubt I will return when trying to do the build.


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