Irish Poker, where do we stand?

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

wow. I've never, ever seen an Irish player do that.

Lol, I was sooo close to falling for this.

You must have been playing pretty rocklike though Ollie. I think if you cant get paid in that situation you are playing too tight imo.

valor

nicnicnic wrote: »

most of the best players in the world have serious coke habits, it is almost impossible to get quality coke in ireland, to compeat at the highest level young irish players should move to south america or miami

I'm moving to Argentina so...

nicnicnic

valor wrote: »

I'm moving to Argentina so...

wow exactly the initiative needed, I can see the headlines now " Valor takes down WPT championship but is unavailable for interviews atm due to nose restructuring plastic surgery "

Flipper

Great thread John. IMO, there's no young player in Ireland that is marketable enough for anyone like stars or Full Tilt to even consider taking them on board. I do agree that there are a few that might be bordering on deserving it and I agree with what Eoin said about rating around 20 players in Ireland. The eternal problem in poker is and will always be that everyone ranks themselves in the top 5%. The fact of the matter is that most players on here can't even beat what are without doubt, some of the softest live cash games in the whole world. Many of the posters on Boards are whiners, complainers and gossipers and these are the very people that have in their own very special way, hampered the growth of poker in Ireland.

All this said, I really do hope that a few players get picked up by a site and start putting Ireland on the Poker-map. I'm delighted for Marty finally getting the deal he deserved... Not half soon enough.

58o

Iago wrote: »

Excellent post, and I've commented on some of it before, specifically around the whole vegas WSOP piece. Every year our best and brighest get together over a couple of threads and plan what they're going to do in Vegas and every year you hear tales of all-night parties, various crazy betting and lots of pics and jokes about semi-naked women! All of which sounds like a fantastic holiday, but very few of the players who go over are prepared to work while there.

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QFT. If only our young hopes at The WSOP, would go on a rigorous, spartan physical excercise regime, the bracelets would start flowing in. Sure thats the the little known secret behind Greg raymers success in 2004. Its all making sense now.

corkie123

Ollieboy wrote: »

again, PPP dont make any money from the rake, that goes to the casino which is not PPP from what I understand. The running cost at the irish open is massive and I doubt there is a profit with the rake from cash games. But I did feel the 300 rake on the main event was high, in relation to the food that was on offer for the players, the typical chicken sauce dish with rice etc.

There shops are aim at a different market so I dont know what that as to do with Poker. They make money from players on rake for providing a service, if you dont like the charge go else where and pay less or get a better service, but PPP are a business.

I would love to see PPP sponsor a player, but I would rather see them hold good buy-in events like the Irish Open and the Winter festival this year than give my rake or there profit to a wantbee

This is turning into a typical PPP bashing which is very unfair to PPP.

u remind me of the devil fish with that responce he told the ept guys back in 2005 that if they dont increase the buyins he wont play no more because of all the bad players who could afford the 1500 buy in then . now its gone up to 8k only 221 players played this year and we are going to lose it here next year because of it ,people cant afford these buyins all the time anymore and if ppp increase there buyin next year they be having to add more money to the tourie.

now im not bashing ppp here as u said but they have to really look at this more . the wsop people have not increased there buyin since the start but increased the amount of players they cater for and made the wsop the best tourie and biggest. food for thought there

as for there shops people use them to lodge money and i say place bets when they there .so its double for them .

myself i would perfer a good buyin events run by them at a more reasonable price so loads more players could afford to play and turn the irish open into the biggest event like the wsop main event . same price just more players

corkie123

bops wrote: »

correct! (is 32 old??)

yes but u need to be bald as well

nicnicnic

were sh!t at soccer to

NickyOD

If you take the overall number of consistent winners worldwide at 5-10+ online and take Ireland's population into account then I don't think we are too far off our fair share and it's BS that there are only around 10 players. There are a lot of online winners who just like to keep to themselves and I know several.

The majority of Irish players who do play 5-10 and above regularly are probably winners. Compare that to the French, Italian, German and Eastern Europeans who are usually the "value" at theses takes.

Who gives a toss what people at the EPT in San Remo say anyway. Most of the donks at every EPT are completely useless in cash games. I watched a 5/10 game in Prague and would have sold my clothes and played in the nip if it would have gotten me into the game, the standard was just so terrible.

corkie123

Flipper wrote: »

Great thread John. IMO, there's no young player in Ireland that is marketable enough for anyone like stars or Full Tilt to even consider taking them on board. I do agree that there are a few that might be bordering on deserving it and I agree with what Eoin said about rating around 20 players in Ireland. The eternal problem in poker is and will always be that everyone ranks themselves in the top 5%. The fact of the matter is that most players on here can't even beat what are without doubt, some of the softest live cash games in the whole world. Many of the posters on Boards are whiners, complainers and gossipers and these are the very people that have in their own very special way, hampered the growth of poker in Ireland.

All this said, I really do hope that a few players get picked up by a site and start putting Ireland on the Poker-map. I'm delighted for Marty finally getting the deal he deserved... Not half soon enough.

i had to read this twice and still thought someone else wrote this than flipper but if it really is u flipper than maybe u have seen the light congrats .
u might yet turn out to be a nice guy .

question where do u place yourself top 5%? 10%? 25% ?

im down at the bottom half but happy there before u ask :)

nicnicnic

dagunman wrote: »

I find it ironic in away that I am posting on baords about this as I have long been of the opinion that boards is one of the elements which is holding back the development of a lot of players.
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Flipper wrote: »

Many of the posters on Boards are whiners, complainers and gossipers and these are the very people that have in their own very special way, hampered the growth of poker in Ireland.

I think you have both hit the nail on the head here, boards is the reason irish players are sh!te; very insightful and logical. dam you boards if i hadn't started reading this forum i could of been a contender

tacker

Would the cost of living in Ireland have anything to do with not enough Irish players playing 5/10+.I have a roll to play 5/10 but only take shots at the good tables due to morgage and family.Im not prepared to have a 10+ buyin drop at 5/10 due to the above.Maybe im not the only one

cardshark202

Who gives two shíts if there aren't a load of young Irish players playing the 10k donkaments?
Sure if some site wanted to sponsor me into some big tourneys I would accept, but it would first mean playing loads of them or running like god in one to get noticed. I'm not arsed with this. I would rather just concentrate on improving my game and moving up levels. That said, I'll be in vegas again this year and I'll probably play some donkaments and maybe the main event if I win a ticket
Also Ollie, regarding your point about young Irish players not taking things seriously enough over in vegas, I think that could apply to every young poker player, not just Irish ones.
Also its not just us Irish that suck at poker, most people do, as do a lot of these sponsored donks.

Goodluck2me

tacker wrote: »

Would the cost of living in Ireland have anything to do with not enough Irish players playing 5/10+.I have a roll to play 5/10 but only take shots at the good tables due to morgage and family.Im not prepared to have a 10+ buyin drop at 5/10 due to the above.Maybe im not the only one

this would be one of the pro`s not cons, you are earning more than your european counterparts too, to a/c for the expensive cost of living. Its better than having Thailands cost of living and earning €5K a year.

nicnicnic

goodluck2me wrote: »

this would be one of the pro`s not cons, you are earning more than your european counterparts too, to a/c for the expensive cost of living. Its better than having Thailands cost of living and earning €5K a year.

go to bed Joe your talking gibberish

opr

goodluck2me wrote: »

this would be one of the pro`s not cons, you are earning more than your european counterparts too, to a/c for the expensive cost of living. Its better than having Thailands cost of living and earning €5K a year.

I think he is making the point that all players who play online poker are on a level playing field in terms of opportunities to earn the same amount of money. The problem is that the relative value of this money is different in Ireland due to the high cost of living.

For example if he was to move to Thailand he would be earning the same amount of money but his cost of living would be hugely less. This in turn would mean he could afford to add more money to this roll quicker allowing him more shots to try and move up quicker.

Opr

tacker

What OPR said

bops

corkie123 wrote: »

yes but u need to be bald as well

wat? (see i'm young and hip etc)

have you ever seen a bald donkey??

Goodluck2me

opr wrote: »

I think he is making the point that all players who play online poker are on a level playing field in terms of opportunities to earn the same amount of money. The problem is that the relative value of this money is different in Ireland due to the high cost of living.

For example if he was to move to Thailand he would be earning the same amount of money but his cost of living would be hugely less. This in turn would mean he could afford to add more money to this roll quicker allowing him more shots to try and move up quicker.

Opr

yes but the flip-side is that you are earning less, of course

I see nicky made the point to me, that once you have started playing at those levels you are better off in a lost cost society, as relative to the cost of living you are making much more. I see your point now.

I was pertaining to starting out, I woulndt want to be earning Thai bhat for example and trying to get into poker.

phantom_lord

goodluck2me wrote: »

yes but the flip-side is that you are earning less, of course

I think he was talking in the context of a full time poker player.

ianmc38

wtf is this about donkaments? Judging levels of success by your appearance/performance in EPTs and the likes is obviously stupid. I would have ~0 interest in going to playing in most of those tournaments.

At the end of the day, the gauge of your success in poker should be a combination of the amount of money you win, your quality of life and your overall happiness in what you do.

I know several players including myself who play 5/10 and above very intermittently in spite of having an adequate bankroll to do so. I'm probably a very small winner in a game with 5 regulars at the tables when I'm playing well. When I'm playing badly, I'm going to be a small to medium loser in the games.

However, at 2/4 or 3/6 my winrate is always higher and the games are always softer. As a result, I make money easier, have less stress and can still make more money in an hour than most people will make in their working week. Even when I'm playing badly, I still have a small edge on most of the regulars.

I'm perfectly content with the lifestyle I have. I've the freedom to travel anywhere in the world at any time I wish. I can do what I want every day of the week and never have to work when i dont want to. And best of all, I'm extremely happy.

I don't aspire to play any nosebleed stake games. I don't aspire to play and win an EPT or the WSOP or to get sponsored by PPP. Are these inhibitors to my success in poker? I certainly don't think so.

Iago

58o wrote: »

QFT. If only our young hopes at The WSOP, would go on a rigorous, spartan physical excercise regime, the bracelets would start flowing in. Sure thats the the little known secret behind Greg raymers success in 2004. Its all making sense now.

If you don't have the mental discipline in any game or sport you'll never get consistent results. It's not about being young or old, or anything else. How many times have people posted here about how they weren't feeling in the right frame of mind but played anyway and lost?

Poker is mentally challenging if you have full focus and are on your top game. The WSOP is supposed to be the pinnacle of that from a tournament point of view, how anybody feels they will do well when they've been out until 3-4 the night before is beyond me.

"Win or lose we'll have had a good time" has been the motto of every unsuccessful team in history, I'm not criticising anyone, but you'll never succeed unless you put the effort and sacrifices in.

Hitman Actual

Flipper wrote:

The fact of the matter is that most players on here can't even beat what are without doubt, some of the softest live cash games in the whole world.

Are you saying that most posters on here don't have an edge in live cash games in Ireland? I find that extremely hard to believe.

Flipper wrote:

Many of the posters on Boards are whiners, complainers and gossipers and these are the very people that have in their own very special way, hampered the growth of poker in Ireland.

dagunman wrote:

I find it ironic in away that I am posting on baords about this as I have long been of the opinion that boards is one of the elements which is holding back the development of a lot of players.

Two interesting quotes with no substance to back it up. Care to expand, both of you?

ditpoker

generally irish standard is poor. having dealt at to alot of players from alot of places in alot of varied buy ins there have been only a handful of Irish players who even I would be worried about playing against and im rubbish. generally speaking even some of the better irish players are the value in these bigger games/tournaments imo.

The Al Lad

nicnicnic wrote: »

most of the best players in the world have serious coke habits, it is almost impossible to get quality coke in ireland, to compeat at the highest level young irish players should move to south america or miami

Never mind coke, Adderral is the way forward

nicnicnic wrote: »

were sh!t at soccer to

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NickyOD wrote: »

If you take the overall number of consistent winners worldwide at 5-10+ online and take Ireland's population into account then I don't think we are too far off our fair share and it's BS that there are only around 10 players. There are a lot of online winners who just like to keep to themselves and I know several.

Agreed, but I think people think that if they're not a boardsie or don't post on boards then they don't exist or aren't any good. In the thread a week or two ago it asked who the best players (non pro) were. Nearly every name mentioned was a boardsie, THERE IS PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T POST ON BOARDS AND THOSE PLAYERS ARE BETTER THAN YOU. I know alot of people who beat online cash but don't post here basically cos it's a little click and they couldn't be arsed with the lick arseness that goes on here

dagunman wrote: »

I find it ironic in away that I am posting on baords about this as I have long been of the opinion that boards is one of the elements which is holding back the development of a lot of players. Ppl come on here and say x is great and y is great, when in reality there prob v average players and barely breaking even.

This form seems spilt between ppl who are happy to except were just bad and thats it , and others who think were gods gift to poker.

Thats basically my point above

Flipper wrote: »

Many of the posters on Boards are whiners, complainers and gossipers and these are the very people that have in their own very special way, hampered the growth of poker in Ireland.

And again my point, if half them put more thought into playing than coming on here and moaning...well who knows.......

Hitman Actual

@The Al Lad:
That's all you've got as to why Boards is holding back Irish poker? Compelling argument.

FWIW, those 'best player' threads are beyond stupid anyway, imo.

Theresalwaysone

Al lad, just because you were picked up on some fundamental mistakes before and didn't like it does not mean boards is a clique or full of crap players.

If you had taken the advice on board etc it would have improved your game and so the point of this forum validated.

Mr.Plough

The_Troll_Lad wrote:

Agreed, but I think people think that if they're not a boardsie or don't post on boards then they don't exist or aren't any good. In the thread a week or two ago it asked who the best players (non pro) were. Nearly every name mentioned was a boardsie, THERE IS PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T POST ON BOARDS AND THOSE PLAYERS ARE BETTER THAN YOU. I know alot of people who beat online cash but don't post here basically cos it's a little click and they couldn't be arsed with the lick arseness that goes on here

Obviously people who post on boards will know more good players who are on boards rather than players who arn't, so I don't see what your point is other than another troll attempt. You know players who crush who don't post here and are better, well done. How are the posters here going to know them unless they reg the live scene frequently? And I'm pretty sure that most of the posters here play more online then they do live.

Mr.Plough

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Al lad, just because you were picked up on some fundamental mistakes before and didn't like it does not mean boards is a clique or full of crap players.

If you had taken the advice on board etc it would have improved your game and so the point of this forum validated.

Lol so true. He was a pretty good poster who commented on HH's and posted up hands occasionally. Then when he gets some criticism and he grows 2 extra salt and vinegars on his shoulders and gos around with a vendetta against the "boards click", as he put it.

The Al Lad

lenny_leonard wrote: »

@The Al Lad:
That's all you've got as to why Boards is holding back Irish poker? Compelling argument.

FWIW, those 'best player' threads are beyond stupid anyway, imo.

I'm not saying boards is holding back Irish poker, i just said there is more good poker players around that DON'T post here

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Al lad, just because you were picked up on some fundamental mistakes before and didn't like it does not mean boards is a clique or full of crap players.

If you had taken the advice on board etc it would have improved your game and so the point of this forum validated.

That was advive I was getting from guys who dominate .10/.20c can't believe I didn't take there advice serioiusly, I stopped posting in that thread after 2 of them PM'd me to apologise

Mr.Plough wrote: »

Obviously people who post on boards will know more good players who are on boards rather than players who arn't, so I don't see what your point is other than another troll attempt. You know players who crush who don't post here and are better, well done. How are the posters here going to know them unless they reg the live scene frequently? And I'm pretty sure that most of the posters here play more online then they do live.

Loads of boards posters are live players and play live quite a bit around the Irish poker scene, it's fairly obvious from the threads that are started. And if they are only online players, why are they commenting on the best live players around if they don't know them.

Lol at the troll attempt comment.

Mr.Plough wrote: »

Lol so true. He was a pretty good poster who commented on HH's and posted up hands occasionally. Then when he gets some criticism and he grows 2 extra salt and vinegars on his shoulders and gos around with a vendetta against the "boards click", as he put it.

Lol, criticism from people who take .10/.20c seriously tilts me, I don't have a vendetta against the boards click but the "YES men " on this site also tilt me, I'm not gonna derail the thread so back on topic.

5starpool

The Al Lad wrote: »

Agreed, but I think people think that if they're not a boardsie or don't post on boards then they don't exist or aren't any good. In the thread a week or two ago it asked who the best players (non pro) were. Nearly every name mentioned was a boardsie, THERE IS PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T POST ON BOARDS AND THOSE PLAYERS ARE BETTER THAN YOU. I know alot of people who beat online cash but don't post here basically cos it's a little click and they couldn't be arsed with the lick arseness that goes on here

In a thread that specifically disregarded the big ticket players such as Andy Black etc, then the onlyreference point posters here have is people they know, an extremely large part of whom post here. How in the name of hell is someone meant to say "Oh, there is this guy in Limerick who is crushing 25/50 online and he is easily the bst player out there" if no one has ever heard of him? He may well be the best player in the world but for discussion purposes, he is not going to get mentioned if no one has heard of him. Also, I agree with Lenny that they are harld useful threads in the first place, but they pop up occasionally and really harm no one.

Also, as I have mentioned before to several other people who have complained about boards, you are not forced to read or post, and the big x in the top right corner is a handy way out. Demonstrating your 'superiority' by posts such as the above helps no one.

The Al Lad

5starpool wrote: »

In a thread that specifically disregarded the big ticket players such as Andy Black etc, then the onlyreference point posters here have is people they know, an extremely large part of whom post here. How in the name of hell is someone meant to say "Oh, there is this guy in Limerick who is crushing 25/50 online and he is easily the bst player out there" if no one has ever heard of him? He may well be the best player in the world but for discussion purposes, he is not going to get mentioned if no one has heard of him. Also, I agree with Lenny that they are harld useful threads in the first place, but they pop up occasionally and really harm no one.

Also, as I have mentioned before to several other people who have complained about boards, you are not forced to read or post, and the big x in the top right corner is a handy way out. Demonstrating your 'superiority' by posts such as the above helps no one.

So noone from boards doesn't know anyone else that plays poker anywhere that doesn't post on boards, cop on will ya

I didn't demonstrate any superiority I just said there is a little click of yes men on here that like to lick each others arses, that is all.

Theresalwaysone

The Al Lad wrote: »

That was advive I was getting from guys who dominate .10/.20c can't believe I didn't take there advice serioiusly, I stopped posting in that thread after 2 of them PM'd me to apologise

Lol, criticism from people who take .10/.20c seriously tilts me, I don't have a vendetta against the boards click but the "YES men " on this site also tilt me, I'm not gonna derail the thread so back on topic.

The level you play is rarely indicative of your ability. There are many variables to the ability to play higher levels. You seems too retarded to understand this. Play 50nl for maybe 20k hands and see what your winrate is.

Also, your complete disregard for what is good advice no matter what level the person giving you advice plays at makes you more of a "YES man" than anyone. Only taking advice from players who plays high levels without questioning this advice is retarded.

Random Punter
"you dont want him calling with a ****ty flush draw, so shove it all in"

The_Troll_lad
"what level do you play?"

Random Punter
"5000nl"

The_Troll_Lad
"ZOMG I see the light, it must be right, he plays real high"


In short.... cop yourself on and think for yourself.

5starpool

The Al Lad wrote: »

So noone from boards doesn't know anyone else that plays poker anywhere that doesn't post on boards, cop on will ya

I didn't demonstrate any superiority I just said there is a little click of yes men on here that like to lick each others arses, that is all.

Can you not read what I said? Did I say that no one here knows anyone that plays poker that doesn't post here? That is way too much of a generalisation and a total misrepresentation of what I said.

What I did say is that, of the people that replied in the thread, none of them knew (or at least bothered to tell us) about a player unknown to others that had a record that could be stacked up against others mentioned. If you knew of players (you are suggesting you do) that are making a good living from the game and are excellent players, what was stopping you from introducing their names to the mix with examples to back up your point?

NickyOD

The Al Lad wrote: »

Agreed, but I think people think that if they're not a boardsie or don't post on boards then they don't exist or aren't any good.

Who thinks that? I think you're just imagining this.

The Al Lad

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

The level you play is rarely indicative of your ability. There are many variables to the ability to play higher levels. You seems too retarded to understand this. Play 50nl for maybe 20k hands and see what your winrate is.

Also, your complete disregard for what is good advice no matter what level the person giving you advice plays at makes you more of a "YES man" than anyone. Only taking advice from players who plays high levels without questioning this advice is retarded.

Random Punter
"you dont want him calling with a ****ty flush draw, so shove it all in"

The_Troll_lad
"what level do you play?"

Random Punter
"5000nl"

The_Troll_Lad
"ZOMG I see the light, it must be right, he plays real high"


In short.... cop yourself on and think for yourself.

Wow one HH thread you pick up on and thrive on it, well done good man, and why you editing my SN, you don't see me saying TheresalwaysoneW@nker"


I am thinking for myself it's half the people on here that can't, by Yes men I mean people that come on and just agree with players of a higher level to gain some acknowledgement and recognition from the "better players",

I often have debate's with guys who play higher stakes than me so don't think I just pick on lower stakes players

Have you seen me doing that ??? and when ??? I give my opinion and if ya's don't like it I couldn't give a flying fcuk

Go on tell me my opinion is "ill informed" and I know nothing about poker, I will be devstated

And what levels do you play, you seem to know it all so I'm presuming your killing 5/10 (cent maybe) and rolling in the dough

5starpool

Theresalwaysone - Please don't change peoples usernames in order to insult them. Apart from being basically against the rules, in this case it is tantamount to back seat modding. Let us decide if someone is a troll and we will take care of it accordingly if we decide someone is a troll.

Edit: Mr Plough - I have deleted your unhelpful and tbh, almost trollish post. Why did you think that would be a good idea? Please don't post that type of post in this context again.

The above applys to everyone else who might think to post along the same lines as well. Don't let this thread get nasty, it was an interesting one.

Hitman Actual

The Al Lad wrote: »

I'm not saying boards is holding back Irish poker, i just said there is more good poker players around that DON'T post here

Fair enough. When you quoted Flipper and dagunman there, it came across that you were agreeing fully with them.

Theresalwaysone

The Al Lad wrote: »

Wow one HH thread you pick up on and thrive on it, well done good man, and why you editing my SN, you don't see me saying TheresalwaysoneW@nker"


I am thinking for myself it's half the people on here that can't, by Yes men I mean people that come on and just agree with players of a higher level to gain some acknowledgement and recognition from the "better players",

I often have debate's with guys who play higher stakes than me so don't think I just pick on lower stakes players

Have you seen me doing that ??? and when ??? I give my opinion and if ya's don't like it I couldn't give a flying fcuk

Go on tell me my opinion is "ill informed" and I know nothing about poker, I will be devstated

And what levels do you play, you seem to know it all so I'm presuming your killing 5/10 (cent maybe) and rolling in the dough

Rolling in the dough? pffffffffffffft. I am losing just under 1ptbb/100 at 50nl atm over 14k hands. I have serious leaks in my game and that is why I read here and other forums.

Sorry for changing your username, Mr.Plough did it first and I found it funny. I do think you enjoy stirring the **** tho.

If someone tells you your opinion is ill informed do you question it or just blow it off as them being know it alls? I suspect the latter. That is retarded.

nh wp gg.

back on topic.

The Al Lad

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Rolling in the dough? pffffffffffffft. I am losing just under 1ptbb/100 at 50nl atm over 14k hands. I have serious leaks in my game and that is why I read here and other forums.

Sorry for changing your username, Mr.Plough did it first and I found it funny. I do think you enjoy stirring the **** tho.

If someone tells you your opinion is ill informed do you question it or just blow it off as them being know it alls? I suspect the latter. That is retarded.

nh wp gg.

back on topic.

Yeah cos it's MY opinion, so I'm gonna change my mindset on the say-so of some one I don't even know ???

And yeah get back on topic there

ditpoker

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

The level you play is rarely indicative of your ability. There are many variables to the ability to play higher levels. You seems too retarded to understand this. Play 50nl for maybe 20k hands and see what your winrate is.

i dont understand this

Theresalwaysone

ditpoker wrote: »

i dont understand this

Sure a 94/11/.5 can play 1000nl. Is he better at the game than a 22/19/3 at 50nl?

NickyOD

Please don't call someone posting in this thread retarded. It's not nice and doesn't help your argument.

ditpoker

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Sure a 94/11/.5 can play 1000nl. Is he better at the game than a 22/19/3 at 50nl?

anyone with any amount of money can buy in at any level and play whatever way they like.

i.e. a 94/11/.5 will be as bad at 1000nl and at 50nl
however, a 22/19/3 at 50nl would not be considered as good as a 22/19/3 at 1000nl.

basically, if you are rich, you can play any level you want. if you are good, you should be able to move up levels as your ability dictates. if you cannot move up levels, it means you have not been good enough at your current level to dictate a move to a higher level.

NickyOD

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Sure a 94/11/.5 can play 1000nl. Is he better at the game than a 22/19/3 at 50nl?

That's not what he meant. If anything the level of cash game you play at is the clearest way of spotting your ability, but obviously it's not fool proof since there will be donks at every level. The example you gave is just silly.

Gillybean72

Iago wrote: »

"Win or lose we'll have had a good time" has been the motto of every unsuccessful team in history, .

Hey thats the attitude of the Tartan Army! but unlike our southern counterparts who believe they ARE the best in the world.., we KNOW we are sh1te at football internationally, but we still get behind them and enjoy it lol.

Mr.Plough

Jeff I think theresa was just pointing out that you can have players who grind through the levels at 20nl/50nl/100nl who have just as good an understanding of the game, if not better than some of the people who have the cash to jump straight in at 400nl. I'm pretty sure someone has mentioned this already actually. But obviously like you said the reg's at 400nl are better players than the regs at 20nl

5starpool

Theresalwaysone and Mr. Plough infracted for various reasons.

mistabutta

the general consensus from people that dont post on boards and who dont play in dublin is that boards and 2+2 is full of 'up their own hole' type people who hide behind the SN and talk sh1t about other players and are generally losing players..i dont completely agree with this because there are some good posters who are obviously v.good at poker.. but i sometimes think that people on here think that poker is confined to boards or dublin and anyone else who plays it form down the country are terrible..the biggest limit you can find in dublin is 2/5.. i've dealt at regular 10/20 NL games and 5/10 PLO games last year "down the country" and the general play is excellent cause these guys are living off poker.. they dont feel the need to write a blog about how they are feeling at the moment or come on a public forum to proclaim themselves to be something they are not.. people dont realise the scale of poker across ireland and the games that are played.. the north west of the country for example i've dealt all types of lowball games and high/lo variations which had nosebleed limits.. people just dont seem to know this

i also know of some regular winners at 5/10 online who completely keep to themselves and are never on boards or 2+2

a bit off topic but why do most of all of irelands top players come from the north when its only a quarter of the population?? andy black, marty smith. michael trimby, allinstevie

The Al Lad

5starpool wrote: »

Theresalwaysone and Mr. Plough infracted for various reasons.

They just couldn't have banter without getting personal, dam teenagers :pac::pac::pac: