VST's and Cubase

white_falcon · 07-04-2008 10:01pm #1

Hi guys,
I have East West Symphonic Orchestra, and I'm trying to set it up in Cubase. I've got as far as getting the VST in and all, and creating the midi track etc. When I play with my keyboard it doesnt work, but when I click the notes on the VST it works fine. Also, the sound is coming out of the keyboard rather than my speakers.

I've looked at devices, and can't figure out how to change it so I get it coming out of my speakers, and so I can used my keyboard as a midi controller for the VST

The keyboard works fine with Reason, and its recognised and all. Just doesnt seem to play the notes on the VST...

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 07-04-2008 11:22pm

Set the input device as the Midi keyboard (in the left pane), and set the output device as the vst instrument (should be just below the "input" section").

white_falcon · 07-04-2008 11:49pm

done that but its still coming out of my keyboard

white_falcon · 08-04-2008 12:09am

right, ok sorry resolved that problem. now one major problem which I've had for a year, but only decided to try and resolve now. I've got a virus ti keyboard. Its all installed. I open the VST interface in cubase - add the access virus. The panel comes up.

However - the usual midi sounds of a normal crappy midi keyboard come out of the speakers rather than whats in the keyboard and theres a really bad latency of about half a second on the crappy sounds.

I really really wanna get this working, but I really havent an idea what I'm doing wrong...

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 08-04-2008 12:14am

Have you chosen the right midi output for the tracks which you want the virus to play?

You will also have to choose the correct midi channel, which is whatever the midi channel on the ti is set to.

white_falcon · 08-04-2008 12:17am

Right so I've set the midi in to Virus ti Synth, and out to Virus ti.

The sounds of the keyboard appear to be going into cubase and coming out through the headphones on my keyboard, which is ok for now. Everytime I try and record it - I record enable the track - the sound cuts out and it won't record?

cornbb · 08-04-2008 12:18am

If you want to use your keyboard as a synth rather than as a MIDI controller then get rid of any MIDI tracks/inputs and just use audio inputs. Your keyboard is capable of produing both audio and MIDI signals, its important to understand the distinction. As for the latency, make sure you are using an ASIO driver. Have you taken time to read the relevant parts of the Cubase documentation? Its nice to just in there and play around but with a beast like Cubase its good to take the time to learn the ropes properly.

white_falcon · 08-04-2008 12:19am

Wait I've got it!

My god! You really don't know how long I tried to do this for, and I've finally figured it out...my god...WAHOOO!!!

thanks for all ur help man

white_falcon · 08-04-2008 12:20am

cornbb wrote: »

If you want to use your keyboard as a synth rather than as a MIDI controller then get rid of any MIDI tracks/inputs and just use audio inputs. Your keyboard is capable of produing both audio and MIDI signals, its important to understand the distinction. As for the latency, make sure you are using an ASIO driver. Have you taken time to read the relevant parts of the Cubase documentation? Its nice to just in there and play around but with a beast like Cubase its good to take the time to learn the ropes properly.

hmm im using it as a MIDI track and it seems fine? Should I change it to audio?

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 08-04-2008 12:23am

white_falcon wrote: »

Right so I've set the midi in to Virus ti Synth, and out to Virus ti.

The sounds of the keyboard appear to be going into cubase and coming out through the headphones on my keyboard, which is ok for now. Everytime I try and record it - I record enable the track - the sound cuts out and it won't record?

Yea. Thats should do it. Now you can record the synth via midi. When it comes to mixing a track, you'll have to create a new stereo pair of audio tracks and record off the synth as it plays. Do this by selecting the Ti as the audio in for the track, and playing the midi.

white_falcon wrote: »

hmm im using it as a MIDI track and it seems fine? Should I change it to audio?

No need to switch to audio while you're putting a track together. The midi allows you much better functionality in terms of correcting mistakes, editing timing and whatever. Just record to audio (as I said above) before you go to export.

white_falcon · 08-04-2008 12:36am

Sean_K wrote: »

Yea. Thats should do it. Now you can record the synth via midi. When it comes to mixing a track, you'll have to create a new stereo pair of audio tracks and record off the synth as it plays. Do this by selecting the Ti as the audio in for the track, and playing the midi.

No need to switch to audio while you're putting a track together. The midi allows you much better functionality in terms of correcting mistakes, editing timing and whatever. Just record to audio (as I said above) before you go to export.

man thanks so much. Its stupid, but its taken me nearly a year to figure this out lol. I can finally use all the bloody sounds on my virus keyboard...2.5k not wasted now!

tis all working fine now

thanks again for the help everyone

white_falcon · 12-04-2008 10:50pm

not too sure how to record my midi tracks as audio files now...

can anyone shed some light on it for me?

this is what I currently have:

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30270871uu0.jpg

I don't understand how I show be recording the midi with the audio track

white_falcon · 12-04-2008 10:52pm

for the audio track, the only option I have for in is Virus ASIO driver stereo in

for the out I have Virus ASIO driver stereo out...

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 12-04-2008 11:22pm

white_falcon wrote: »

for the audio track, the only option I have for in is Virus ASIO driver stereo in

for the out I have Virus ASIO driver stereo out...

That sounds about right.

Now you have to set the midi track for the Virus to Solo, and set the Audio track you have set to Record, and push the magic button.

white_falcon · 13-04-2008 12:27am

all the midi tracks? i have about 8 midi tracks - do i have to select them all as solo?

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 13-04-2008 12:48am

You can yea, provided they're all using the Virus as an instrument, i.e. they are synth tracks.

Or else you could record them all seperately, on seperate audio tracks. it'd give you more flexibility.

white_falcon · 13-04-2008 1:15am

yea they all use the virus vst plug in.

just headin 2 bed now so will have to try again 2moro, but didnt seem to work for me earlier. do i have to press play and record at the same time maybe?

iv solo enabled all the midi tracks using the virus ti VST, and record enabled the audio track (stereo), but nothing happening...

VST's and Cubase

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