Anyone Recognise this Scumbag??

Gumbo

golfpaul wrote: »

I should have posted an update to this before but I was not too pleased with the outcome. After breaking into my car and stealing sat nav etc. he broke into my wifes car some weeks later stealing birthday presents. He was caught and had his day in court. His free legal aid told the judge that he would undergo another drug treatment course so the judge let him off and told him not to appear before her again. I found out later that he had over 60 previous convictions. So what can you do with scumbags like this, this really disgusts me. :mad:

theres a story for the politicians knocking at your door :mad:

mickydoomsux

golfpaul wrote: »

I should have posted an update to this before but I was not too pleased with the outcome. After breaking into my car and stealing sat nav etc. he broke into my wifes car some weeks later stealing birthday presents. He was caught and had his day in court. His free legal aid told the judge that he would undergo another drug treatment course so the judge let him off and told him not to appear before her again. I found out later that he had over 60 previous convictions. So what can you do with scumbags like this, this really disgusts me. :mad:

Welcome to Ireland, where the perpetrator is the victim.

Atlantic Dawn

His knees provide the keys to the problem

Basil Fawlty

Theres only one way to sort those boys out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpBYcM06Sk

golfpaul

golfpaul wrote: »

So what can you do with scumbags like this, this really disgusts me. :mad:

Presumably he is a heroin addict, not much can be done unfortunately, many women addicted to it go thieving and on the game, guys just go thieving.
A lad here committed armed robbery and got off scott free, at a guess he must have done a fair to medium amount of singing.

Atlantic Dawn

RoverJames wrote: »

Presumably he is a heroin addict, not much can be done unfortunately, many women addicted to it go thieving and on the game, guys just go thieving.
A lad here committed armed robbery and got off scott free, at a guess he must have done a fair to medium amount of singing.

Too many of them use the drug card to get off, nobody forces a gun to their head to start it all off.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Too many of them use the drug card to get off, nobody forces a gun to their head to start it all off.

No, but more than a few have been passed a joint laced with heroin unknowing to themselves. Also more than a few go into the prison system as non IV drug users and come out junkies. Also many heroin addicts come from fairly horrific backgrounds so it's all well and good to say no one put a gun to their head but if you're 14 or 15 and haven't had a family meal as long as you remember and your parents are alcoholics, one in prison or your mum being abused it's not so easy to stay off such sh1t.

Justin10

Lads but the logo on the hat im sure is the old Dublin Gaa 3 castle crest??

TouchingVirus

Rochey18 wrote: »

Lads but the logo on the hat im sure is the old Dublin Gaa 3 castle crest??

Nope, defo looks like an Arsenal one.

kona

That parasitic piece of **** is always around eden quay, im almost positive. But I do feel for ya OP these pieces of **** are untouchable, bar kicking the **** out of them and dumping them in the liffey(which is just dropping lower than them) there is no answer.

I dont buy the PC bull****, they are causing a serious issue in society, there is no excuse for it.

Anan1

RoverJames wrote: »

Presumably he is a heroin addict, not much can be done unfortunately, many women addicted to it go thieving and on the game, guys just go thieving.

A bit OT, but...

Actually, we could stop this in the morning if we wanted to by providing legal heroin to addicts. Unfortunately the State seems determined to protect the revenue stream of the drug dealers, at the expense of the OP and other victims of drug-related theft.

johnos1984

Anan1 wrote: »

A bit OT, but...

Actually, we could stop this in the morning if we wanted to by providing legal heroin to addicts. Unfortunately the State seems determined to protect the revenue stream of the drug dealers, at the expense of the OP and other victims of drug-related theft.

Fine Gael are talking tough on this...........hopefully they follow through on it all

OP I feel for ya on this one

Inbox

He looks a bit like swan man. The guy that follows the swans around Stephens green.

mconigol

golfpaul wrote: »

I should have posted an update to this before but I was not too pleased with the outcome. After breaking into my car and stealing sat nav etc. he broke into my wifes car some weeks later stealing birthday presents. He was caught and had his day in court. His free legal aid told the judge that he would undergo another drug treatment course so the judge let him off and told him not to appear before her again. I found out later that he had over 60 previous convictions. So what can you do with scumbags like this, this really disgusts me. :mad:

Probably haven't a clue what I'm talking about here but could a civil case not be brought against him? Maybe double jeopardy applies or it would be too costly but I'm just curious if its technically possible??

Peadar_85

mconigol wrote: »

Probably haven't a clue what I'm talking about here but could a civil case not be brought against him? Maybe double jeopardy applies or it would be too costly but I'm just curious if its technically possible??

but would there be any point if he's on free legal aid?

Anan1

Peadar_85 wrote: »

but would there be any point if he's on free legal aid?

I'd imagine the problem wouldn't be getting the judgement but getting the money.

Peadar_85

golfpaul wrote: »

His free legal aid told the judge that he would undergo another drug treatment course so the judge let him off and told him not to appear before her again. I found out later that he had over 60 previous convictions. :mad:

This is a farce. Judges have a responsibility to society as well yet this scum of the earth gets to roam free among us soon to rob from the innocent again despite the facts in front of this judge. Are judges answerable to nobody?

Gulliver

I don't get all the bleeding heart bullsh1t in this country. If he's been in court, you must know his name. Pay a few hardmen to relieve him of the use of his legs. Lets see him ninja his way into your car park after that. You never know, he might detox while he's recovering. Everybody wins!

Peadar_85

Anan1 wrote: »

I'd imagine the problem wouldn't be getting the judgement but getting the money.

Exactly my point, civil actions are taken presumably so the injured party gets damages but in this case the dude is getting his legal aid paid by us tax paying fools so what would be the point of a civil order.

Then again if it was that judge again would you even get the judgement....

mconigol

Peadar_85 wrote: »

but would there be any point if he's on free legal aid?

Probably not since as Anan1 said you wouldn't get anything out of him. I'm just wondering if it possible to do, even if it is a totally pointless exercise. Anyway I don't want to derail the OPs thread so this probably isn't the place to discuss it.

Sorry for your trouble OP. Maybe instead of paying your road tax next time just spend the money developing an awesome drug habit. You'll have a great time and be immune from prosecution for any other crimes so it's win win really!

Anan1

Peadar_85 wrote: »

This is a farce. Judges have a responsibility to society as well yet this scum of the earth gets to roam free among us soon to rob from the innocent again despite the facts in front of this judge. Are judges answerable to nobody?

Experience tells us that a heroin addict will do anything to get heroin. Prohibition means that the addict has to pay lots of money to criminals for heroin, rather than receiving it from the State. The inevitible result is widespread theft.

Zubeneschamali

Anan1 wrote: »

The inevitible result is widespread theft.

Agreed, nothing judges can do about it. The only way to keep these lads from nicking stuff is to lock them up for life, and even most murderers don't get that.

Just give them the damned Heroin, problem solved.

EPM

Gulliver wrote: »

I don't get all the bleeding heart bullsh1t in this country. If he's been in court, you must know his name. Pay a few hardmen to relieve him of the use of his legs. Lets see him ninja his way into your car park after that. You never know, he might detox while he's recovering. Everybody wins!

This is going to be the only warning on this one - please don't advocate violence.

Doolittle51

golfpaul wrote: »

I should have posted an update to this before but I was not too pleased with the outcome. After breaking into my car and stealing sat nav etc. he broke into my wifes car some weeks later stealing birthday presents. He was caught and had his day in court. His free legal aid told the judge that he would undergo another drug treatment course so the judge let him off and told him not to appear before her again. I found out later that he had over 60 previous convictions. So what can you do with scumbags like this, this really disgusts me. :mad:

The justice system in this country is a joke. Nobody gets punished for petty crime. In cases like this, the best outcome a victim can hope for is receiving their goods back if the criminal is caught in time.

Without trying to sound like a smartass, it might be an idea to stop leaving valuables in you car(s)...

Anan1

Anan1 wrote: »

Experience tells us that a heroin addict will do anything to get heroin. Prohibition means that the addict has to pay lots of money to criminals for heroin, rather than receiving it from the State. The inevitible result is widespread theft.

Many of the lads who get methadone off the state sell it to buy heroin :mad: It's not widespread as they should be taking the methadone supervised but at times this is not possible and they can take it away.

Bit off topic in a zombie thread too

CarMuppet

EDIT: Ah just noticed it was a zombie thread too... sorry for posting.

EPM

CarMuppet wrote: »

Now you said it. May I suggest the following:

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EDIT: Ah just noticed it was a zombie thread too... sorry for posting.

Infracated after ignoring on thread mod warning. The next person will be getting a ban.

Anan1

RoverJames wrote: »

Bit off topic in a zombie thread too

It was actually resurrected by the OP with an update (post 51), so I suppose it's now current again!

dr.fuzzenstein

At the end of the day you're lucky.
Most car thieves won't bother for niceties such as breaking the smallest window on the car, usually you get a brick heaved through the sidewindow, the door bent back (on purpose), hood stamped on, or the car stolen, crashed and set on fire.
Leaving valuables in the car is never a smart thing, so never leave anything in the car that would upset you to loose.
You got off lightly, even though it's a pain in the arse.
Had my own car window smashed in Finglas a few years back and my wallet stolen (see, silly me, own fault) and when my van (old VW smoker) was impounded because the Nigerian embassy didn't like the look of it, again, window smashed and this time radio stolen. In the police pound.
So I feel your pain OP.

who the fug

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

d when my van (old VW smoker) was impounded because the Nigerian embassy didn't like the look of it, again, window smashed and this time radio stolen. In the police pound.
So I feel your pain OP.

Off topic

who had to pay for the damages whilst the car was in the pound

dr.fuzzenstein

who the fug wrote: »

Off topic

who had to pay for the damages whilst the car was in the pound

You have an extremely narrow interpretation of off topic.:rolleyes:
I think it's relevant to the thread.
Had I said "horse manure really makes my roses come up lovely", now that's off topic.
Gards paid of course, but I still had to get window fixed and buy a new radio and fit it.
When my wallet was stolen the bills where all mine including new side window.
A point you conveniently ignored or maybe you didn't bother to read my post properly...

dr.fuzzenstein

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Had I said "horse manure really makes my roses come up lovely", now that's off topic.

Might prune the roses actually this weekend, any time before Patrick's Day is fine isn't it ? :pac:

Anan1

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

You have an extremely narrow interpretation of off topic.:rolleyes:
I think it's relevant to the thread.
Had I said "horse manure really makes my roses come up lovely", now that's off topic.
Gards paid of course, but I still had to get window fixed and buy a new radio and fit it.
When my wallet was stolen the bills where all mine including new side window.
A point you conveniently ignored or maybe you didn't bother to read my post properly...

I read who the fug's post as meaning that they were OT, an impression reinforced by their asking you about your van.

who the fug

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

You have an extremely narrow interpretation of off topic.:rolleyes:
I think it's relevant to the thread.

Gards paid of course, but I still had to get window fixed and buy a new radio and fit it.
..

No was just interested in the police pound to see if they have vehicles left at owners risk clause, something which wouldn't surprise these days

dr.fuzzenstein

who the fug wrote: »

No was just interested in the police pound to see if they have vehicles left at owners risk clause, something which wouldn't surprise these days

Thank god they paid, sergeant on duty said "it's a disgrace, there's no security here, here's how you claim and make sure you do".
Shame on me, seem to have misread your post.:(

Cuddlesworth

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Most car thieves won't bother for niceties such as breaking the smallest window on the car, usually you get a brick heaved through the sidewindow, the door bent back (on purpose), hood stamped on, or the car stolen, crashed and set on fire.

The small triangle window is one of the most expensive.

Agree with another poster here. We should just provide them with Heroin and accommodation and threaten them with withdrawal of the drug if there are any crimes or public order offences. It would soon be a real threat to them, since it would remove the availability of the drug through illegal means. Would be far far cheaper for us in the long term. And hopefully they will OD themselves into non-existence.

Zubeneschamali

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

And hopefully they will OD themselves into non-existence.

Actually, with clean legal heroin, it's a pretty safe drug. Registered addicts were able to get heroin in the UK from the 20s until 1970 or so, and lots of addicts were doctors or pharmacists with good jobs.

Wiki on heroin-assisted treatment for addicts.

Anan1

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Agree with another poster here. We should just provide them with Heroin and accommodation and threaten them with withdrawal of the drug if there are any crimes or public order offences. It would soon be a real threat to them, since it would remove the availability of the drug through illegal means.

You're missing the point. They rob because heroin is prohibited. The current system guarantees huge profits for the drug barons, partly funded through theft by addicts. This is why the biggest fans of prohibition are the major drug gangs - your threat to deprive addicts of legal heroin would be music to their ears.

Zubeneschamali

Anan1 wrote: »

This is why the biggest fans of prohibition are the major drug gangs

Yes, the gangs had started attacking head shops before the Government lent them a hand and shut them down.

Cuddlesworth

Anan1 wrote: »

You're missing the point. They rob because heroin is prohibited. The current system guarantees huge profits for the drug barons, partly funded through theft by addicts. This is why the biggest fans of prohibition are the major drug gangs - your threat to deprive addicts of legal heroin would be music to their ears.

Your missing the point. They rob to get the money to pay for it but for most the violence and lack of any real responsibility is also a major problem. By giving free heroin we remove the dealers. By denying it to the troublesome people over short periods when bad behavior is displayed we can train them like dogs. And the withdrawal of the drug is helped by the fact that there is illegal supply anymore(because they can't compete on price).

Anan1

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

By giving free heroin we remove the dealers. By denying it to the troublesome people over short periods when bad behavior is displayed we can train them like dogs. And the withdrawal of the drug is helped by the fact that there is illegal supply anymore(because they can't compete on price).

Stop and think about this for a second. The moment you deny an addict legal heroin you reactivate the black market.

Plug

Shoot the scum dealers, problem solved!

Plug

Plug wrote: »

Shoot the scum dealers, problem solved!

Nope, only way to tackle the drug dealers is to target all users of all drugs. Have seriously hefty fines for possession of any amount of hash, ecstacy, cocaine etc. Should have been done in the Celtic Tiger era. Of course if that was done the dealers would just introduce the likes of crystal meth at looney cheap prices and then hike the prices, a fine won't deter the folks on that sh1t. No teenagers / young adults fear being caught as a deterrent to using so called soft drugs

In my view any user of any illegal drug is as guilty as the dealer be they a Garda, student or doctor, and let's face it, drug use crosses all demographics.

Plug

RoverJames wrote: »

Nope, only way to tackle the drug dealers is to target all users of all drugs. Have seriously hefty fines for possession of any amount of hash, ecstacy, cocaine etc. Should have been done in the Celtic Tiger era. Of course if that was done the dealers would just introduce the likes of crystal meth at looney cheap prices and then hike the prices, a fine won't deter the folks on that sh1t. No teenagers / young adults fear being caught as a deterrent to using so called soft drugs

In my view any user of any illegal drug is as guilty as the dealer be they a Garda, student or doctor, and let's face it, drug use crosses all demographics.

They are addicts, they will pay the fine and do it again. Shoot the dealers and its a much harder drug to get their hands on. The sad reality is, there will always be a supply and always a demand:(

CarMuppet

Plug wrote: »

Shoot the scum dealers, problem solved!

Apparently that's against the law.

Plug

CarMuppet wrote: »

Apparently that's against the law.

Ahh just put it down as a mad one and say nothing to no one.

EPM

This thread has gone way off topic now and doesnt really suit the motors forum.