Pablo Popovitch Gives UFC Champion BJ Penn a Helping Hand

Valmont

Deleted User wrote: »

France both had trouble dealing with his pure physicality. They may have had a better chance in an even playing field

Even playing field? Franca tested positive after that fight for boldenone or some other horse steroid.

Valmont

Valmont wrote: »

Even playing field? Franca tested positive after that fight for boldenone or some other horse steroid.

Thats 100% true but Franca was taking a substance to stop the pain in his ankle as he had sprained it badly and felt UFC wouldnt ever give him a title shot again. Which is bad on the UFC's part that guys feel that way (I guess David terrell left his mark for constantly pulling out of fights).

He also admitted it unlike Sherk.


But you're right they both cheated, but I did indeed say that it may not have made a difference anyway.

Valmont

So you believe Franca's after-the-fact excuse that he took steroids solely to get over an injury but you don't believe that Sherk's supplements could have been contaminated?

Franca knew Boldenone would give him an edge regardless of any injuries he had and he looked in great shape to me.

I like Franca though and I think Franca vs. Florian would be a great fight.

Valmont

Valmont wrote: »

So you believe Franca's after-the-fact excuse that he took steroids solely to get over an injury but you don't believe that Sherk's supplements could have been contaminated?

Franca knew Boldenone would give him an edge regardless of any injuries he had and he looked in great shape to me.

I like Franca though and I think Franca vs. Florian would be a great fight.

No I respect that he was honest and upfront and hasnt tried to con us all like Sherk has by adopting the "if i say it often enough theyll believe it" approach. Sherk is lying. And worse still, people are starting to fall for it. Thankfully most arent. The reception he got in Newcastle was thoroughly deserved IMO. They make the testing levels high to eliminate the element of doubt and Sherk was a fair bit above it.


I did say earlier on the thread that he would probably have beaten Franca anyway didnt I? He has fought Florian and Franca, neither of whom are good enough, IMO, to be title contenders, so with or without the roids he probably would have won, but both fights he won by decsion, going as hard in round 5 as he was in round 1.

Fozzy

Valmont wrote: »

So you believe Franca's after-the-fact excuse that he took steroids solely to get over an injury but you don't believe that Sherk's supplements could have been contaminated?

Sherk's offered zero evidence that his supplements were contaminated, he's just moaned and moaned and lied a bit too

dunkamania

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/story/2008/4/16/104328/500

Sean Sherk's coach talks about his training, emphasis on grecco clinch takedowns, attempting to combat BJ's sprawl.

Fozzy

dunkamania wrote: »

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/story/2008/4/16/104328/500

Sean Sherk's coach talks about his training, emphasis on grecco clinch takedowns, attempting to combat BJ's sprawl.

The full interview is here: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/article1045294.ece

More lies about the steroid testing

Dragan

Poor Sean. He really has gone from the hard-working-class-hero to the villian all in a failed test!!!

I imagine the much like Timmah the vitriol will eventually die down.

Personally, i want to see Sherk so up exactly as he was. I want him to be just as big, as ripped, as strong and still with that insane cardio. Not to validate Sherk in any way, just to have BJ fighting the guy i planned on seeing him fight.....and beat.

Dragan

john kavanagh wrote: »

not a character attack. just pointing out he cheated so he had a better chance of damaging his opponent.

My apologies so JK as i took that up completely the wrong way.

john kavanagh

no problemo...:D and i certainly dont wish to make sean out to be a villian...even if every test he gave was clean i still wouldnt want his 'style' to beat someone like BJ's 'style'. purely a personal 'as a fan' point of view!

i've been around high level sports/athletes for long enough to have long since had my naive views on steroids smashed...

wayne1

Sean Sherk Denies Steroid Use, Wants Title Back in UFC 85 :eek:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ARPBi_bGkqM&watch_response

wayne1

Just a quick preview of bj :pac:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2igtx_bj-penn




Just a quick preview of sean sherk :pac:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkGzIAiUOI

t-ha

wayne1 wrote: »

Sean Sherk Denies Steroid Use, Wants Title Back in UFC 85 :eek:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ARPBi_bGkqM&watch_response

Stiffler does MMA now?

Dragan

john kavanagh wrote: »

no problemo...:D and i certainly dont wish to make sean out to be a villian...even if every test he gave was clean i still wouldnt want his 'style' to beat someone like BJ's 'style'. purely a personal 'as a fan' point of view!

i've been around high level sports/athletes for long enough to have long since had my naive views on steroids smashed...

I agree, BJ to me is one of the guys who really represents what MMA is about, strong in ALL sections of the fight, not just one or two area's that he relies on!

Fozzy

wayne1 wrote: »

Sean Sherk Denies Steroid Use, Wants Title Back in UFC 85 :eek:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ARPBi_bGkqM&watch_response

"Evidence"... Again, what evidence?! That one pill from one pack of supplements was tainted with something that he didn't fail for?! As I said originally, it's the lies he's come out with afterwards that make me dislike him more than the actual positive test. I don't blame the commission for going out of their way recently in testing positive nandrolone cases a number of times to prove that what Sherk's been saying isn't true

Valmont

wayne1 wrote: »

Just a quick preview of sean sherk :pac:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkGzIAiUOI

That is the weirdest hl I've ever seen. Sean "The hero of Time" Sherk, what the hell does that mean?

Valmont

Valmont wrote: »

That is the weirdest hl I've ever seen. Sean "The hero of Time" Sherk, what the hell does that mean?

It means that with enough "time" to get the roids out of his system and pass a test, he will fight like a "hero"....its very simple really!!! :D:D

Fozzy

Deleted User wrote: »

It means that with enough "time" to get the roids out of his system and pass a test, he will fight like a "hero"....its very simple really!!! :D:D

I only watched it briefly but I thought they were taking the piss out of him by saying that he just takes his opponent down, does nothing and holds them for the decision

Fozzy

Fozzy wrote: »

I only watched it briefly but I thought they were taking the piss out of him by saying that he just takes his opponent down, does nothing and holds them for the decision

Well in fairness he does pass and mount, but after that, yes he does nothing!

Dragan

Valmont wrote: »

That is the weirdest hl I've ever seen. Sean "The hero of Time" Sherk, what the hell does that mean?

It was part of an elaborate trolling done on Sherdog by one of the Pro Trolls over there.

Also, this is a pretty decent highlight of him....shows the take downs and the passing and the........

In all seriousness though, watch closely and your see only a foolish man thinks he can't land them inside.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=eiHkhcwvgNA&feature=related

Dragan

Dragan wrote: »

It was part of an elaborate trolling done on Sherdog by one of the Pro Trolls over there.

Also, this is a pretty decent highlight of him....shows the take downs and the passing and the........

In all seriousness though, watch closely and your see only a foolish man thinks he can't land them inside.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=eiHkhcwvgNA&feature=related

Yea there was a big troll thread, the guy would always put "Hero of Time" between the words Sean and Sherk in every post and he got it in there a good 10 times per post!

wayne1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Q-CqDZPS8&feature=related :mad:

Fozzy

wayne1 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Q-CqDZPS8&feature=related :mad:

He's just saying that he's older than BJ

wayne1

Fozzy wrote: »

He's just saying that he's older than BJ

yep

wayne1

The word of the teacher

Marcinho comments on Pan and decision to train Sean Sherk

Three-time black belt world champion and one of the most popular names in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Marcio Feitosa decided to take another direction in his successful fighting career: to produce new champions and strengthen his team even further. Marcinho, who has been carrying the Gracie Barra flag for the last 20 years and teaches in California, led the team in the last Pan, taking second place over all, behind Fabio Gurgel’s Alliance.

Recognition of the Carioca as a great teacher has already reached MMA, as this Sunday he will be on his way to Sean Sherk’s training center, with the aim of helping him with his Jiu-Jitsu, so that the former UFC lightweight champion may recover his belt at UFC 84, in May against the Hawaiian BJ Penn.

GRACIEMAG.com: Could you sum up what was best about this last Pan in California, which was the biggest to date?

Marcinho: The organization of all the IBJJF championships is impeccable, but that’s not what shocked me. What was unbelievable was how the championship has grown so much that the gymnasium (California State University Dominguez Hills), which used to be enormous, became small. It will be interesting to follow the Federation’s next steps, as they will have no choice but to put the Pan in an outrageously big stadium, like the pyramid from the Worlds.

GRACIEMAG.com: How do you break down Gracie Barra’s performance as a team and who stood out most individually? Were there any surprises?

The athletes did their part, trained hard, we did all our homework. But Alliance came out on top. Credit goes to (Romero) Jacare and (Fabio) Gurgel. I noticed in the gymnasium how they were completely focused on the team and the competition. They took with them fans, flag and all. I miss that big Gracie Barra flag, I’m going to have to get it back.

GRACIEMAG.com: Alliance went with lots of athletes and was the big winner of the competition, as GB was last year. To you what made the difference this year?

Marcinho: This year some of the athletes we had who were favored to win the title did not perform well in the competition. I think that is what made the difference.

GRACIEMAG.com: Did you see the Pan as preparation or the objective?

Marcinho: As the objective, of course. Nowadays the Pan is one of the biggest Jiu-Jitsu tournaments in the world, I think it’s only second to the Worlds.

GRACIEMAG.com: Did you not feel the desire to fight? Are you planning to fight in the Worlds?

Marcinho: Whenever I see someone in their gi I feel like putting mine on. But my heart is focused on preparing our students and making Gracie Barra grow. The same discipline I had in waking up early to go up Pedra da Gávea mountain, I now have to pass what I know on to others.

GRACIEMAG.com: Tell us something about training with Sean Sherk.

Marcinho: I’m going to stay with Sean for five days. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Greg Nelson, who is Sean’s main coach, and for Sherk himself. When I was invided, I didn’t hesitate. I’m sure it will be a great exchange of knowledge and I can’t wait to get there. I know BJ’s ground movement well, I spent a week studying tapes of him and I believe Sean has everything it takes to win this fight.

Nothingcompares

wayne1 wrote: »

Marcinho: Whenever I see someone in their gi I feel like putting mine on.

I love this bit.

wayne1

Marcio on training with Sherk

“I was impressed,” said Feitosa

As reported black belt Marcio Feitosa is helping American Sean Sherk in training for his fight against BJ Penn to take place on May 24 and worth the UFC lightweight belt. After his initial activities with his latest student, Marcinho commented on the experience: “In daily training Sean shared all his ideas about techniques and physical training with me. We mainly did drills and Jiu-Jitsu work. I was impressed, Sean is in good shape for the fight, he will surely be an explosive presence.”

Marcinho also recalled how the partnership with the former lightweight champion began. “We met five years ago, when I did a Jiu-Jitsu seminar at Minnesota Martial Arts Academy. He did not participate, but we had the chance to talk and he was really cool. Seeing his UFC fights I knew Sean would be a great fighter, but seeing the guy train had me totally impressed

THawk

Valmont wrote: »

I haven't been this hyped up for a fight since Randy v Liddell 3, I hope Sherk kills him. The worst part is I have no way of seeing the fight!:eek:

Valmont, if you're willing to stay up till the 2-3am start you can live stream UFC event on www.myp2p.eu, if may have to download the latest software off sopcast.com:)

wayne1

Not long now for UFC 84 ILL WILL - May-24-2008 just a quick reminder of what penn and sherk are capable of should be a great fight :eek::eek::eek::eek:

sherk

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4219097783352395854

penn
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPiOI5WdWE

wayne1

G S P oh :cool: