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Q & A with HoLLLLLaments

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    zuutroy wrote: »
    Wow, your bankroll reqs are tight....I thought I was nitty for moving up to $200nl at $7k and dropping back down at $6k (1k hands later, lol ty poker). I do think you need 40 bi to be comfortable at a level, but I think shots at 35, drop down at 30 is ok....I guess this goes up for MSNL.
    Some good answers btw.
    well ill put it like this, if its your livelihood you need to be careful. If you have another source of income and can afford to drop down if needs be then you can use more lenient roll management. The thing is a lot of people have trouble with stepping down. You could have a one million $ roll lose 400k in a week and i guarantee for most people in that spot 600k would feel like a tenner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Why do you think poker soulcrushes you?
    lack of interaction? i went to a therapist about this and she said i was unhappy with poker because all of my interaction with people was under social circumstances going out with friends etc. and poker was the cause of this.

    Interacting with people is overrated afaik.

    Good well and thanks for answering my questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭max_power


    What kinda setup/computers are you using?

    Any pics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    What did you study in College? Why Manchester?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    max_power wrote: »
    What kinda setup/computers are you using?

    Any pics?

    oldish dell laptop
    dell xps 720 with 2 24 inch dell monitors.
    i really like dells. they never seem to break. was supposed to get 2 new laptops ages ago. a macbook air and the top spec dell xps but just havent bothered yet. might just get the mackbook air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    shoutman wrote: »
    What did you study in College? Why Manchester?
    Manchester's a really vibrant city. studied electrical engineering


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    good stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    Finding nemo seems a bit of a nut. not sure if we got our wires crossed but in the thread where he said he was consistently losing and i said he should reevaluate his game trying to help, he went nuts so he obv wants me dead but w/e.

    That was me, and I don't want you dead! :o Just your standard online wires-crossed argument I'm guessing. I thought you were being deliberately insulting for no reason at all, maybe I got it wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭The Tourist


    (1) How would you compare the bankroll requirements/variance for heads up to those for full ring (and 6 max)?

    (2) I recently started playing HU cash games and found that the rake is a lot more apparant because there are only two players. How does this affect your play?

    (3) Heads up: cash or S&G's? Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    And one other thing, how can you work out the poker stove odds while playing a live game ???

    This quote in another thread got me thinking about different hand equities against various ranges etc.

    What common hand equity situations do you think all serious poker players should know and remember?
    e.g. Overpairs on low drawy boards v range of sets/2pairs/draws etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    (1) How would you compare the bankroll requirements/variance for heads up to those for full ring (and 6 max)?
    Well im not going to do the maths but obv HU is higher variance than FR. Just generally of the top of my head id say if for 2/4 nl fr you have 45 bis id say 60 is required for 2/4 nlhu. one of the main factors is stepping down. Alot of players have trouble with that. If you can sit out of a real heated 4 table HU match and step down right there then you could get away with less.

    (2) I recently started playing HU cash games and found that the rake is a lot more apparant because there are only two players. How does this affect your play?
    Doesn't really affect my play. The rake is pretty killer at like 50nl HU. Rakeback or playing on the sites with good VIP schemes would help alot. I personally wouldnt play HU at those stakes if the rake was taking a chunk from my winrate. Is the softness of the games enough to make up for the killer rake? Good game selection would help a tonne too. Also clearing bonuses on various skins at 50nlhu or w/e would be pretty easy i would think.

    (3) Heads up: cash or S&G's? Why?
    cash more profitable. Lots of showdowns in sngs. its really all about volume. like if you have a 5% roi at the $500 hus you have to play a lot for it to convert to a good living.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    This quote in another thread got me thinking about different hand equities against various ranges etc.

    What common hand equity situations do you think all serious poker players should know and remember?
    e.g. Overpairs on low drawy boards v range of sets/2pairs/draws etc

    i think a lot of people make calls with draws on turn and even flop too much. they initially look ok "getting 2-1 with a gutshot 7 high fdraw" but usually they are against a really tight range and its just spewy. Also like 99-JJ vs various ranges is something I think people should be familiar with. I wont call it studying but people should probably stove like 10 hands a day just to familiarize themselves with the equity of hands in certain spots. Doing that really helped my PLO game anyways. Im really trying to think of more individual spots that a lot of people over/under calculate their equity but minds blank. Picking hands to stove from spots where you called all ins would be a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    In terms of poker being a part of your life, how close to its peak are you now? Do you see yourself playing less and moving on, or do you think it's possible to make enough money from it that it's worthwhile to sacrifice a few years of your career?

    Your choice of any job in the world? Why?

    Who wins a fight between Spiderman and Batman? How about Tony Blair v Bertie Ahern?

    What's a big mistake good players regularly make in 6-max games? What's the best way to exploit it?

    Why is phonetic spelt the way it is?

    Have you bothered to hedge against the dollar exchange rate?

    One smart thing to buy/sell/invest in over the next 5 years, given the forecast recession? No other conditions :)

    Who will win Euro 2008/US Presidency?

    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    Do you play pool? I think there is a definite correlation by people that play poker, study engineering and are quite good at pool.

    What do your parents/girlfriend think of you playing poker?

    What is your biggest ambition from poker?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    digiman wrote: »
    Do you play pool? I think there is a definite correlation by people that play poker, study engineering and are quite good at pool.


    hmmm. snap


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Mr.Plough wrote: »
    hmmm. snap

    I did Physics and I used to pwn DCU pool back in '98.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    I didn't play much in DCU as the tables are ass and the cues worse. Table at home ftw ;)

    98?? You must have been good as there was no chalk back then if I recall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    In terms of poker being a part of your life, how close to its peak are you now? Do you see yourself playing less and moving on, or do you think it's possible to make enough money from it that it's worthwhile to sacrifice a few years of your career?
    I don't really look at it as peaking or w/e. Too many people view the final step in a poker career as playing nosebleeds. Its tough because poker offers me the ability to earn a lot of money but is that money ample enough to cover for loss of happiness? Not that im not happy but im 100% sure id be happier in college than grinding online. But then im also 100% sure im happier when im doing things that have been provided my poker that i coudnt do otherwise. Suppose ill try and find the right balance come September of having a comfortable lifestyle and also enjoying my youth in college life mode. I'm sure ill play a lot less when i go back to college. If i don't go back and do go traveling ill prob give up poker for 6 months.

    It all depends what you want. I use to think id be happy and content making 500k a year from poker for the rest of my life and just pimping around doing w/e but you quickly realize its not a very fulfilling life. I was also thinking of going somewhere to do volunteer work for a year instead of college. I still might. Problem is that if i did id be 21 about to turn 22 when eventually went to college and i don't wanna leave it that late.

    Your choice of any job in the world? Why?
    Billionaire who set up 1000s of animal shelters across the world. I like animals orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr id buy an island and set up a free range chicken sanctuary and work towards providing 100% of the worlds chicken and eggs. Battery hens are not good and make me sad.

    Who wins a fight between Spiderman and Batman? How about Tony Blair v Bertie Ahern?
    spiderman and its not even close. probly bertie, he has nothing to lose anymore so hed be willing to do the dirty stuff.

    What's a big mistake good players regularly make in 6-max games? What's the best way to exploit it?
    Calling for set value. Like some donk limps and co iso raises and people call with 44 out of sb for set value. The COs range is really wide there for isolating the weak player so your going to get blown of pretty much every flop and when you do flop a set most likely not going to get paid. Playing SCs out of position is a leak a huge amount of people have also. Even in multi way pots its not profitable alot of the time. One thing i like do against regs is lead out with strong nuttish hands. People always perceive this as weakness even up to like 10/20. Id say if you lead out 95% of the time you will get raised and 80% of the time they will fire 2 barrells. Board texture etc. has to be taken into account tho. So thats probably something people dont do enough because you can really exploit aggressive regs like that. Sometimes ill lead with air and when they raise come back over the top. Ill never lead with air as a bluff i intend to fold tho. Its tough to find spots to exploit regs but leading out certainly works in certain situations. Also not isolating enough in position is something i see a lot. I see regs in co/btn sometimes limping behind donk open limper and think that is so disgustingly bad. This doesnt happen a tonne tho.

    Why is phonetic spelt the way it is?
    the greeks

    Have you bothered to hedge against the dollar exchange rate?
    nope

    One smart thing to buy/sell/invest in over the next 5 years, given the forecast recession? No other conditions :)
    Lol
    the fck if i know



    Who will win Euro 2008/US Presidency?

    I like Portugal and barack. Was following this pretty intently but hate the whole Hilary crying thing so just lost interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    Do you play pool? I think there is a definite correlation by people that play poker, study engineering and are quite good at pool.
    no, i did play alot of snooker when i was younger tho.

    What do your parents/girlfriend think of you playing poker?
    i think i answered this

    What is your biggest ambition from poker?
    hendon mob db ldo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    good answers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Any questions I would have asked were taken. :(

    yes, I knew the burning issue of Spiderman v Batman was going to be a popular one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    What would the best sng advice you would give be? whats your strategy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    What would the best sng advice you would give be?
    Realize just how valuable your chips are. Always be the pusher never the caller. Multitable like a mutha****er.

    whats your strategy?
    Play tight until the bubble. I remember at lower stakes if you built your image by playing really tight then at the bubble you could really chip up in good pushing spots. Dont spew early. Your chips are really valuable for fold equity purposes. if you called 4 raises in the first few with sets thats at least 250 chips gone. Say its bubble time and your on button after going tru blinds at 100/200 your only going to be shoving 950. Basically those extra chips really help. Dont be averse to open limping with pps. Use icm calculators to determine pushing/calling ranges and then try and apply that to the game. Really try and focus on peoples ranges. Too many people just assume a push is profitable and make it without really thinking about villians calling range. The bubble is where the moneys made or lost in sngs so really focus on improving your bubble play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    What would the best sng advice you would give be?
    Realize just how valuable your chips are. Always be the pusher never the caller. Multitable like a mutha****er.

    whats your strategy?
    Play tight until the bubble. I remember at lower stakes if you built your image by playing really tight then at the bubble you could really chip up in good pushing spots. Dont spew early. Your chips are really valuable for fold equity purposes. if you called 4 raises in the first few with sets thats at least 250 chips gone. Say its bubble time and your on button after going tru blinds at 100/200 your only going to be shoving 950. Basically those extra chips really help. Dont be averse to open limping with pps. Use icm calculators to determine pushing/calling ranges and then try and apply that to the game. Really try and focus on peoples ranges. Too many people just assume a push is profitable and make it without really thinking about villians calling range. The bubble is where the moneys made or lost in sngs so really focus on improving your bubble play.

    what bankroll per level for 6 max stt's did u use in you stt days??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    ditpoker wrote: »
    what bankroll per level for 6 max stt's did u use in you stt days??

    I think i used like 30 bis up until maybe the 30s then maybe 40 bis. Stepped up and down alot. If i had to outline a bankroll management plan now from like the $6s to the $200s on full tilt for example it would be as follows:


    $6+0.50c X 40 = $260. Id start with 40bis because theres not much to drop down to. Id step up when i had........

    $11+$1 X 30 = $360. Id step back down to the $6+0.50c if i dropped below $350. Id step up when i had........

    $22+$2 X 35 = $840. Id step back down to the $11+$1 if i dropped below $720. Id step up when i had.......

    $33+$3 X 35= $1260. Id step down to the $22+$2 if i dropped below $1000. Id step up when i had......

    $55+$5 X 40 = $2400. Id step down to the $33+$3 if i dropped below $2000. Id step up when i had.....

    $110+$9 X 50 = $5950. Id step down to the $55+$5 if i dropped below $4750. Id step up when i had......

    $220+$16 x 55 = $12980. Id step down to the $110+$9 if i dropped below $10000.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    excellent use of the colours imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    excellent use of the colours imo

    was gonna do up to the 550s but ran out of colours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    You could have used black you racist fúck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Why are the $33's the gay levels? Not enough that you're racist, tsk tsk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    If you stare at the post for long enough theres a magic eye picture of a jew being dropped down a well. Not cool IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    Good read man, just a few q's.

    1. (ignore if already asked) do you have different bankroll requirements for PLO? If so, what are they?

    2. I heard you say somewhere that you thought floating was in general a bad idea, and for the most part a pretty spewy play. Do you think this applies to both NLH and PLO, or just NLH?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    1. (ignore if already asked) do you have different bankroll requirements for PLO? If so, what are they?
    Yes, its obviously a higher variance game. Id say whatever i had for nlhe id add at least 12 bis for the same stakes PLO. As i move up stakes the number would get higher because like everything else it depends how easily someone can step down and if your playing 5/10 for a living its not nice to have to step down. Say you have a nasty swing at 5/10 and not many 3/6 games run so you have to play 2/4. Its pretty bad for your confidence and most likely your game in general unless you can really adjust super well both emotionally and poker wise. Some rough numbers...............if i was playing 100plo id want 50bis, 200plo 55bis, 400 plo 60-65bis etc etc.

    2. I heard you say somewhere that you thought floating was in general a bad idea, and for the most part a pretty spewy play. Do you think this applies to both NLH and PLO, or just NLH?

    I was talking about Floating HU. Someone said they found themselves floating nearly every pot because they felt they could outplay their opponent. Floating is obviously profitable in certain situations but floating a lot of pots HU wont be. Like if you float every flop with a flushdraw intending to bluff a flush card. This will never be profitable because the flush card wont come often enough and even when it does he wont fold all the time. A profitable spot to float would be if you put villian on a range of say medium strength made hands(2ndPTK, TP5thK etc.) but its really difficult for you to rep anything on a certain flop so bluffraising is not good. So you float to sort of delay bluffraise or w/e. That might not be the best example but i am a little tired. Basically if im going to float i have to have a read,timing tell etc. to make it a profitable play. Dont just float because you play better postflop than him.

    I think PLO is a little different because its a lot easier to bluff and theres a lot more to rep. Its sort of like the limit holdem concept of hidden outs. Like on a 9108 flop and you hold A7 and your opponent bets after raising pre well presumably your outs are a 6,J and an A some of the time. Well you can also bluff a 7,Q,K because you peel that flop with all those hands KQ, Jx etc. so those cards are your hidden outs. I probly explained that terribly but w/e. Soooooooooo........PLO........you call on flop with an o/e sd and a flush fills on turn or vice versa you can rep those hands. the board is constantly changing and unlike nlhe a lot of players will be weak enough postflop to make floats profitable. Floating with total air in plo without a strongggg read is probly not for the fainthearted and wont be profitable.


    anyways what i was trying to say was its not you should never float its just that you shouldnt be doing it HU every hand because your a better player. Its like open limping 23o utg because you will outplay everyone postflop. Another point: If i checkraise someone on 789 flop itll probly be because a quick look at the board texture and saying i dont think it hits his range too hard. Pretty quick reasoning and not alot of major thought process to make that play. Well if i was going to float that flop for whatever reason i would be thinking of board texture, hand ranges, all possible turn cards, reads, stats, previous hands, timing tells, game flow etc. etc.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭mormank


    new question...what made you decide to stake ppl into that tournie last week and will you be doing it again?? you appear to have started a craze.

    do you think that lloyd is raining on your parade??

    or do you think that a date should be set when 5 ppl back ten ppl each, of their choosing to a degree, and the backer with the best overall win in cash monies should win a bigger prize? a ten horsed last longer bet if you will??


    can you believe no one thought of this amazingly revolutionary idea before?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    new question...what made you decide to stake ppl into that tournie last week and will you be doing it again?? you appear to have started a craze.
    Was down on the day and just wanted to have a spin at getting even in a fun way. I like boards and wanted to give something back to the community and give people a shot at final tabling and winning a few K. Its just a bit of fun. I can afford to lose a couple of dollars. Those fields are so weak tho that it would be tough to lose money if you were putting people in on a regular basis. Just have to have somewhat decent players and then its just about volume.

    do you think that lloyd is raining on your parade??

    lloyd sucks. hes also a ****ing jinx in razz. If you are playing razz and lloyd is around just open fold A234 face up to someones KQ showing. No need to run the deck. You would have hit quads. Hes probly a jinx at stud 8 too. I think hes responsible for my meltdown at a horse mtt final table the other day during stud 8.

    its not really a parade to be rained on. theres enough tournaments for everyone and lord knows theres more than enough people that want to be staked for them.

    or do you think that a date should be set when 5 ppl back ten ppl each, of their choosing to a degree, and the backer with the best overall win in cash monies should win a bigger prize? a ten horsed last longer bet if you will??

    well suppose you could do sort of a league or pool. i doubt backers would be interested in it tho. alot better and more profitable ways to stake people for mtts than that. sounds ok for some degeneracy tho. i wouldnt really be into it. I just like to pick the people i want when im feeling nice and ship them the money and see what happens. If i was going to stake people with the intentions of +ev+ev+ev then id do something like find alot of good mtters to play sunday majors. Its really all about volume so if i had like 10-20 good mtters playing 3-5 majors on a sunday it would probably be nice and profitable. Its tough to find 10-20 good and trustworthy mtters tho and probly a lot of hassle to run something like that. im staking a few people for cash and sngs at the moment but those stakes dont really make alot of money, for me anyway.

    can you believe no one thought of this amazingly revolutionary idea before?

    whats next? fire? the wheel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    2 questions.

    1) Why did you honestly post that HH in the other thread.
    2) Would you do it again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    1) Why did you honestly post that HH in the other thread.
    because it was a funny hh. seriously who cares that much about a hh. lloyd told me on msn that r4ad was cl in some tourney. went something like:
    lloyd: r4ad chip leader in a tourny on stars
    me:nice
    l:yeh the 10$ freezeout 2k runners
    me:ill check it out and rail him to victory

    i open up the table, see that hand and lol then i save the hh. forget about it then i see r4ads name mentioned in the thread and post it for comical purposes. then he went nuts. i really dont think he was angry about the hh. seriously who gives a **** about a hh being posted in an off topic thread? you have to be pretty ****ed in the head to care that much about a hh being posted.



    2) Would you do it again?
    lol sure, its a really funny hh. im sure hell get over the fact that his super secret screen name is now exposed to the world. no more action at 25/50 for rooney_dives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    1) Why did you honestly post that HH in the other thread.
    because it was a funny hh. seriously who cares that much about a hh. lloyd told me on msn that r4ad was cl in some tourney. went something like:
    lloyd: r4ad chip leader in a tourny on stars
    me:nice
    l:yeh the 10$ freezeout 2k runners
    me:ill check it out and rail him to victory

    i open up the table, see that hand and lol then i save the hh. forget about it then i see r4ads name mentioned in the thread and post it for comical purposes. then he went nuts. i really dont think he was angry about the hh. seriously who gives a **** about a hh being posted in an off topic thread? you have to be pretty ****ed in the head to care that much about a hh being posted.



    2) Would you do it again?
    lol sure, its a really funny hh. im sure hell get over the fact that his super secret screen name is now exposed to the world. no more action at 25/50 for rooney_dives
    Where did all this happen!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    try and keep up eoghan... :) think it was in lloyd's staking thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭eoghan104


    Thanks Geoff Ill go check it out! I hate missing controversy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Requiem4adream


    because it was a funny hh. seriously who cares that much about a hh. lloyd told me on msn that r4ad was cl in some tourney. went something like:
    lloyd: r4ad chip leader in a tourny on stars
    me:nice
    l:yeh the 10$ freezeout 2k runners
    me:ill check it out and rail him to victory

    If your intentions were to support me you could have said "gl RD" in the chat or "TID man gl". Or lloyd even. Instead you stay silent and say nothing. In fact your only contribution re: that tournament was to wait 24 hours and post the HH in the 1st thread i replied to all day. That doesnt exactly feel like rail support to me.
    i open up the table, see that hand and lol then i save the hh. forget about it then i see r4ads name mentioned in the thread and post it for comical purposes. then he went nuts. i really dont think he was angry about the hh. seriously who gives a **** about a hh being posted in an off topic thread? you have to be pretty ****ed in the head to care that much about a hh being posted.

    It's not about the HH and that's obvious. It's the HH + chat that i care about. I was playing for 16 hours it was 7 in the morning and i made 1 comment before throwing the laptop off the bed. I shouldnt have to put up with it being thrown in my face again. I'd no probs with the HH itself, i didnt like the comment i made in the heat of the moment. Honestly more self-directed than anything but i should have apologised to the guy and didnt.

    Just for the record, - i never asked you for a loan. I was waiting on a transfer from someone, needed someone to cover me for the Nightly & 20re, so i asked Reggie on msn did he have $400 on stars. He said no but he could try 1 or 2 on msn. He warned me that 1 of the "1 or 2" would be you, i said "look, after that Trippie bs i'd prefer if you didnt ask any tools who would try belittle me again, it's not that important". He said you're sound, i said work away so. He couldnt get anyone for me, so i said cool. /the end. Got it sorted on AIM.

    IMO, I shouldnt have to defend myself about personal stuff like that. Who i send/receive $ from is my own business, i wouldnt ask anyone who they ship/receive from.
    2) Would you do it again?
    lol sure, its a really funny hh. im sure hell get over the fact that his super secret screen name is now exposed to the world. no more action at 25/50 for rooney_dives

    The HH itself is not funny imo. I overplayed/misplayed AA, didnt put the donk on the 7. He repopped me before that on a paired board and showed 2 pair. like flop 9 9 6 i bet/folded 88 and he showed a6. It looks an automatic fold but i snapcalled villain dependent. I dont find it funny. The chat isnt even all that funny,again imo, i said "****ing idiot" more aimed at me than him and closed the laptop. I play too many mtt to donk off a billion bb's like that in that manner, so was distinctly tired and unhappy.


    Anyway look im not entering a debate on the hand or any personal issues, that's my 2 cents and i'll leave it at that. Unlike you my screen name is visible and people can make fun of me if they choose to, like you did.

    Back to your well:

    Post a picture of yourself?

    What's your screen name on stars/FTP? No intention of trying to make a fool of you with HH's but i'm sure there are many who would like to watch you in action and pick up a few tips :)

    Gl with rest of the well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭CourierCollie


    2 questions.

    1) Why did you honestly post that HH in the other thread.

    And there was me thinking you posted it as a favour to me. Trying to put R4AD on super monkey tilt when I was at his table. Ah well, I was moved soon afterwards anway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


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    If your intentions were to support me you could have said "gl RD" in the chat or "TID man gl". Or lloyd even. Instead you stay silent and say nothing. In fact your only contribution re: that tournament was to wait 24 hours and post the HH in the 1st thread i replied to all day. That doesnt exactly feel like rail support to me.



    It's not about the HH and that's obvious. It's the HH + chat that i care about. I was playing for 16 hours it was 7 in the morning and i made 1 comment before throwing the laptop off the bed. I shouldnt have to put up with it being thrown in my face again. I'd no probs with the HH itself, i didnt like the comment i made in the heat of the moment. Honestly more self-directed than anything but i should have apologised to the guy and didnt.

    Just for the record, - i never asked you for a loan. I was waiting on a transfer from someone, needed someone to cover me for the Nightly & 20re, so i asked Reggie on msn did he have $400 on stars. He said no but he could try 1 or 2 on msn. He warned me that 1 of the "1 or 2" would be you, i said "look, after that Trippie bs i'd prefer if you didnt ask any tools who would try belittle me again, it's not that important". He said you're sound, i said work away so. He couldnt get anyone for me, so i said cool. /the end. Got it sorted on AIM.

    IMO, I shouldnt have to defend myself about personal stuff like that. Who i send/receive $ from is my own business, i wouldnt ask anyone who they ship/receive from.



    The HH itself is not funny imo. I overplayed/misplayed AA, didnt put the donk on the 7. He repopped me before that on a paired board and showed 2 pair. like flop 9 9 6 i bet/folded 88 and he showed a6. It looks an automatic fold but i snapcalled villain dependent. I dont find it funny. The chat isnt even all that funny,again imo, i said "****ing idiot" more aimed at me than him and closed the laptop. I play too many mtt to donk off a billion bb's like that in that manner, so was distinctly tired and unhappy.


    Anyway look im not entering a debate on the hand or any personal issues, that's my 2 cents and i'll leave it at that. Unlike you my screen name is visible and people can make fun of me if they choose to, like you did.

    Back to your well:

    Post a picture of yourself?

    What's your screen name on stars/FTP? No intention of trying to make a fool of you with HH's but i'm sure there are many who would like to watch you in action and pick up a few tips :)

    Gl with rest of the well.

    to be honest, i thought the HH was just light-hearted banter - like when I used to slag reggie off at the tables in Vegas everything (quite often) he misplayed a hand, but it IS funny.
    You'd laugh if someone like Dom for instance, totally out of character, went on a massive rant over a small pot, or Valor on another monkey tilt session does same.
    Everyone does it, everyone laughs, its not victimisation -its comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Requiem4adream


    to be honest, i thought the HH was just light-hearted banter - like when I used to slag reggie off at the tables in Vegas everything (quite often) he misplayed a hand, but it IS funny.
    You'd laugh if someone like Dom for instance, totally out of character, went on a massive rant over a small pot, or Valor on another monkey tilt session does same.
    Everyone does it, everyone laughs, its not victimisation -its comedy.

    I think it's light hearted banter if you know or like someone otherwise it's just unnecessary needle. There's a big difference in motive between someone like you/flushdraw/YULETIRED etc posting it up in the BBV sticky ,bit of banter and someone like Holllla or HJ etc posting it up randomly in a thread. It's not quite the same thing if ya ask me :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭KINGofHEARTS


    I think it's light hearted banter if you know or like someone otherwise it's just unnecessary needle. There's a big difference in motive between someone like you/flushdraw/YULETIRED etc posting it up in the BBV sticky ,bit of banter and someone like Holllla or HJ etc posting it up randomly in a thread. It's not quite the same thing if ya ask me :rolleyes:


    Don't wanna rub salt into your wound there wee Daniel, but what happened with the hand history ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Requiem4adream


    Don't wanna rub salt into your wound there wee Daniel, but what happened with the hand history ???

    long story! forgotten about now :) what part of the country are you from?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    If your intentions were to support me you could have said "gl RD" in the chat or "TID man gl". Or lloyd even. Instead you stay silent and say nothing. In fact your only contribution re: that tournament was to wait 24 hours and post the HH in the 1st thread i replied to all day. That doesnt exactly feel like rail support to me.

    lol, you were out as soon as i opened the table. saying gl man or tid didnt make much sense.


    Just for the record, - i never asked you for a loan. I was waiting on a transfer from someone, needed someone to cover me for the Nightly & 20re, so i asked Reggie on msn did he have $400 on stars. He said no but he could try 1 or 2 on msn. He warned me that 1 of the "1 or 2" would be you, i said "look, after that Trippie bs i'd prefer if you didnt ask any tools who would try belittle me again, it's not that important". He said you're sound, i said work away so. He couldnt get anyone for me, so i said cool. /the end. Got it sorted on AIM.

    i dont care about being asked for loans but when someone is offensive i will retaliate.

    IMO, I shouldnt have to defend myself about personal stuff like that. Who i send/receive $ from is my own business, i wouldnt ask anyone who they ship/receive from.

    i didnt ask you to explain anything about your finances.



    Post a picture of yourself?
    thats a little bit of a weird request........................ill probly be at the event in the red cow if you want to meet me in person or w/e.

    What's your screen name on stars/FTP? No intention of trying to make a fool of you with HH's but i'm sure there are many who would like to watch you in action and pick up a few tips

    if anyone wants any tips im available on pm/msn/AIM.

    no more of this in the thread plz. its ruining my well. if you wanna talk about it anymore pm/aim/msn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    to be honest, i thought the HH was just light-hearted banter - like when I used to slag reggie off at the tables in Vegas everything (quite often) he misplayed a hand, but it IS funny.
    You'd laugh if someone like Dom for instance, totally out of character, went on a massive rant over a small pot, or Valor on another monkey tilt session does same.
    Everyone does it, everyone laughs, its not victimisation -its comedy.
    ^^^^this

    the end


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