M7 - Castletown to Nenagh

L1011

mysterious wrote: »

If people drived properly and responsbily we wouldn't "need" to put barriers on every stretch of road.:rolleyes:

In countries where people usually drive to a higher standard than here, they have continuous median barriers on busy roads. Crashes happen.

We're using collapsible signage supports and putting armco around bit lamp stantions and bridge supports but not worrying about the fact that a mature tree is probably a lot worse to hit than a lamp pole!

Amtmann

I think the discussion on landscaping is more suited to this thread.

The Word Is Bor

mysterious wrote: »

Oh stop been childish The word is bar, you deliberately took my quotes out of context. If you quoted the whole sentence you would not have to play these silly games. I thought you would have the cop on and take yourself more seriously than this kind of tit for tat.:rolleyes:


I said all the bridges from Monegall to Nenagh were completed.

Which does not mean all bridges on the Castletown scheme is completed. Most bridges are indeed nearly finshed however. If you want to take my post out of context again, go ahead, but your making quite a judgement about yourself.

With all respect, please stop trying to get my reaction in order to gain some ridicoulous argument out of it. I have more important things to do with my time.

Liar. Your previous posts are there for all to see.

Driving eastwards from the Nenagh Arch Bridge the first overbridge is located on the road to Ballymackey. Take the first left past the Nenagh Interchange. The overbridge is about 200m or so down this road. This overbridge is not complete..

The next overbridge is essentially an accommodation overbridge serving a private road. This overbridge is not complete.

The next overbridge can be viewed by taking the left at Josie's in Toomevara and driving about 2km northwest. This overbridge is not complete.

After that there are 2 No. accommodation underpasses. These are complete.

The next overbridge is at Clash Cross. After leaving Toomevara (past the 100kph speed limit), take the next left at the crossroads. Follow this road for about 1km or so. This overbridge is substantially complete and should be open to traffic fairly soon.

Then there is a river bridge, which is complete.

The next overbridge is accessed by taking the next left off the N7, just at the Tipp/Offaly border. It's about 1km down this road. This overbridge is complete.

The next overbridge is accessed by taking the next left off the N7. This overbridge is not complete.

The next structure is the R490 Cloughjordan Road underbridge in Moneygall. This is complete.

After that you have the N7 underbridge at the Moneygall junction.

So, all the bridges are not complete between Nenagh and Moneygall. However I am prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to provide photographic evidence that these bridges are in fact complete. I think my directions, along with your undoubted local knowledge should allow you to find these complete bridges.

The reason I am calling you out on your continuing lies is that the vast majority of people viewing and posting on these type of threads don't see these scheme's in progress. By virtue of the posting/viewing they have an interest in the scheme(s). Your lies only serve to misinform people and create unreal expectations of progress.

Joey Joe-Joe Jr

mysterious wrote: »

If people drived properly and responsbily we wouldn't "need" to put barriers on every stretch of road.:rolleyes:

Oh dear God!

... I've been a very good boy this year Santa, and also I'd like a world with no wars where everybody gets to eat lots of sweets and they won't rot your teeth and I'd like my cat to be able talk to me and I'd like my tricycle to be able fly and .......

Yours sincerely,

mysterious

Tech3

Furet will be happy reading this!

Nenagh to Castletown M7 planned landscaping

Last month saw an exciting new project starting to take shape on the Nenagh-Castletown section of the M7 motorway with the planting of organic hayseeds, which it is hoped will line the new route with a beautiful array of wildflowers. Part of a pioneering project undertaken between main contractors Bowen-Somague JV, international engineering and design specialists Atkins Global, and University College Cork, the scheme involves planting the hayseeds on selected plots along the 36km route.





The seeds in question were provided by Cappawhite farmer Tom Coffey, who owns one of Ireland’s treasure troves of ancient history at Carnahalla. Tom’s farm, which exhibits important archaeological evidence of human settlement stretching back as far as 6,000 years ago, boasts a traditional organic meadow that has remained much the same for the last thousand years. Carnahalla is one of only a small number of farms of its kind in this country, and Tom therefore turned out to be an ideal donor for the new M7 project.
Lisa Dolan, the project’s team leader for environmental design, says the hayseeds from the Carnahalla meadow are perfect for what the group is trying to achieve on the M7. She explained that meadows that have been fertilised over time yield a poor diversity of wildflower. Those being supplied by Tom however have not been tainted and are likely to germinate into a much better quality and range of flower along the new road.
The meadowland at Carnahalla yields a rich biodiversity of flora, including such species as orchids, ragged robin, mint, sorrel, vetch, rush, sedge, silver weed and meadow sweet.
The Carnahalla hay was cut in the early autumn, and the hayseeds are to now be spread along the Nenagh-Castletown route ahead of its scheduled opening at the end of next year.

Link

Amtmann

Interesting indeed. However, the one thing about hay meadows is that they're supposed to be cut. Who will cut it on the M7? What this essentially means is that we will have another treeless gash through the countryside. And though it will look nice from April to June each year, after that it will resemble a savanah and look totally out of place - unless it's tended to, which it won't be.

Chris_533976

Translates to me as "We're putting weeds down".

Amtmann

The NRA's Seán O'Neill has stated this will be finished in 2010: http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1218/galway_av.html (end of the interview)

Tech3

I had a quick look at the most northerly section of this scheme today.

The overbridge after the Nenagh bypass is not well advanced as the ones on the Gort to Crusheen scheme. There is another overbridge north of the local road at Toomyvara and this is also not complete though there is some CBM on the mainline which was surprising. The embankment is advanced for both overbridges.

ilovegermany

Just wondering if anybody knows is the EIS for this scheme available online?

Amtmann

ilovegermany wrote: »

Just wondering if anybody knows is the EIS for this scheme available online?

See here, post #25 of this thread.

ilovegermany

Sound, Thanks Furet

lukejr

Very little news on this section of motorway. Does anyone know the milestone dates?

A lot of work being carried out at the Nenagh end of this section, does anyone know when traffic will be diverted over the bridge here so work can begin at linking the M7 Nenagh bypass to this new Castletown section?

mysterious

I've heard from another worker on this scheme that it will be opened in October. I don't know how many bridges are open, but the bridges between Monegall and Nenagh are. The Tarmac has been layed on the westbound carriegway from Monegall to east of Toome(thats as much as I could see) I don't know much about east of Moneygall.

But it looks to me that the Nenagh Monegall scheme section opening in the first phase? This would mean Moneygall and Toomevara will be bypassed by summer:)

mysterious

lukejr wrote: »

Very little news on this section of motorway. Does anyone know the milestone dates?

A lot of work being carried out at the Nenagh end of this section, does anyone know when traffic will be diverted over the bridge here so work can begin at linking the M7 Nenagh bypass to this new Castletown section?

Well they are moving on this part as the Old Nenagh slip has been closed to faciliate the R446 movement away from the mainline so they can retrofit the mainbound slips. The eastbound Loop that goes from the R445 to Limerickbound is now used at the Toomevara to Nenagh offf slip. I'm glad to see progress on the entire scheme now.

lukejr

A lot of work happening no the west end of this scheme where it will meet the M7 Nenagh bypass. Once the evenings get longer and the sun is out I'll take a detour from Limerick to Kildare and take some photos, could be Feb though.

-Corkie-

Any dates or timeframe when this is opening????

lukejr

lukejr wrote: »

Once the evenings get longer and the sun is out I'll take a detour from Limerick to Kildare and take some photos, could be Feb though.

I haven't driven home in the day light yet. Anyone living local have an opportunity to take some photos?

Sponge Bob

lukejr wrote: »

I haven't driven home in the day light yet. Anyone living local have an opportunity to take some photos?

Mysterious claims to have taken loads last year and promised to ( 11/11/09 in this thread) post them up. That was three months ago, he s probably a customer of 3 Ireland

mysterious wrote: »

Ok lads, I have been saying for months that I will post pictures. But I have lost a lot of my pictures over the whole year due to loss of phone and what not. I still have many over the course of the year saved. I will over the next week or two post them on here. I have said to Furet about this already. So I will get them all together. I promise I will contribute more.

Amtmann

This is the Billy No-mates of all the road threads here, and the motorway itself will be Paddy Last when it does eventually open towards the tail end of the year.

Tech3

I'm guessing there is at least 3 or 4 overbridges open to traffic now surely? It still wont be finished this year IMO.

lukejr

Hopefully if we will get some good weather in the Spring/Summer, that'll speed progress along. What are the odds of three bad summers in a row?

Doesn't seem to be any photos posted recently to see progress to judge when it'll be open.

Amtmann

lukejr wrote: »

Hopefully if we will get some good weather in the Spring/Summer, that'll speed progress along. What are the odds of three bad summers in a row?

Doesn't seem to be any photos posted recently to see progress to judge when it'll be open.

I'm predicting an opening ere November. If the bulk earthworks are substantially complete (and at this stage, they'd really want to be!), then there's no reason why it can't open this year. Is there?

mysterious

I have all the pictures, but I lost the charger so I have to find it. ive taken a few pictures on my cam phone, but my phone is ****ty and I don't know how to send pictures off it.

So I'll have to get a friend of mine to do it.

All the bridges are open from Monegall to Nenagh, Tarmac is down for a good bit between Monegall and Toomevara (last time I checked). The concrete barrier is also finished near Monegall to as far as my eye can see frmo the main road.

It's advancing now, and it will be finished by october for sure. They have been behind but they reall sped up from summer to December.

I've asked the sitemen and they also said october.

The bulk of the work is done, its the laying of tarmac now and gettting the Nenagh interchange sorted now. I've no idea of the progress Roscrea as I can't see the road from the N7.

I have all the photos saved, so when I get my cam fixed you will have a list of photos in one go.

mysterious

Furet wrote: »

I'm predicting an opening ere November. If the bulk earthworks are substantially complete (and at this stage, they'd really want to be!), then there's no reason why it can't open this year. Is there?

All the Earthworks is done, just the interchange slips now on both Moneygall and Nenagh. The earthworks were pretty exstensive. They are flying it now imo. The days are getting longer and they have 10 months to complete it. The Nenagh Moneygall section can be opened in summer, if it needs be.:)

I'll ask my relative whos working on the site to see if he can take some snaps.

The Word Is Bor

There are 4 No. overbidges that are still not open between Nenagh and Moneygall.

AlanD

Will it be the case that when portlaoise Castletown opens with it's new toll that N7 drivers will still more than likely stay going through mountrath since it would make no sense to get on new M7 at borris-in-ossory to pay a toll for the sake of 16 miles going to Dublin.

IMO the nenagh Castletown section should have been planned for an opening sooner than the portlaoise Castletown section.

lukejr

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I suppose it depends if you're in a rush, if I needed to get to Dublin as quick as possible for business I'd pay toll.

If popping home to see the folks, I'd go through Mouthrath and grab something to eat and get petrol for car.

AlanD

although they will probably signpost it at Borris to say that Dublin is to the right up on to the M7.

Fool people once Mountrath will be really bad when there is motorway traffic hitting it from one side. I doubt people will hop off the M7 coming from Dublin.

Tech3

I can confirm there is some progress on this scheme. Some small stretches have bits of the concrete barrier up and light bit of CBM. I saw 2 overbridges open to traffic and a few not very advanced just north of Nenagh. Overall it will be a small miracle if this opens anytime this year.