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The Students (dun dun dun...)
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brianthebard wrote: »I miss being a student *sighs and waits for acceptance into a postgrad*. I've skimmed through the thread but can anyone actually say for sure that the problems Xiney is talking about is all or even mostly caused by students? I don't go out in Sligo so I don't know what its like at night, but we never did that much drinking outside when I was at uni, that was usually underage kids and sometimes foreigners (personal experience only people!) And also, have you reported any of this to the guards Xiney?
Cripes, I was so glad to finish college & earn some money, you could see the smoke trail behind me... student life is - unless yr parents are subsidising you big time - a harsh one. Struggling to get money for course books & materials, pay the rent & bills, and everything else like clothing, toiletries etc. I studied in Dublin, but because I was from Dublin, I only got the basic £15 a week. It barley covered the light bill.
For the first 2 years I worked 4 nights a week plus weekends, then as I couldn't afford to do that (or I'd have failed), I spent the last year living on ill gotten gains (as the tax office - and maybe C.A.B. are apt to reading forums & investigating people through the web, I won't go into details!). I finished college with a €5k debt that took 3 years to pay off... and though I did have more than a few drunken nights (well usually drugged up nights coz drugs are cheaper), I never went around wrecking the place or disturbing anyone (except my own head!).
Students get a hard time of it... even though I hate them!
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Is it possible that they confused you with on of the regular student rabbel and thought you'd be up for a laugh? Not that this would excuse anything, but didn't you say that you were only 22? It's possible if they were pissed.
I was a student up to last year - and I assure you I wouldn't have thought it a laugh even when I was 17 and in my first year. Actually, especially not when I was 17 - I probably would have beat the living daylights out of him at that point. Thankfully I'm more mature now
(Also, I haven't worked on a farm in 4 years and it would have been a much tougher fight to win)
Some might call me uptight for that. I say I'm empowered and believe I have a right to call my own body my own.Well you should report it to the Gardai. Maybe they aren't aware of it and even if they are then the more people who complain about it the more interest the Gardai will take by having their members on patrol in that rea a lot more then they presently have.
Xiney, Im not being flippant but posting about it here is achieving nothing but if you notify the Gardai and your local council officials and councillors you may see an improvement. Even if you dont you can always say you tried.
Get a few others to do the same or if you have a residents association bring the matter to their attention and ask them to contact the relevant authorities.
I think this is an excellent suggestion - so posting here wasn't totally without achievement. I'd have just continued inwardly seething without the opportunity to vent - and now I've got a constructive outlet. So, yay! Complaining goes professional
:eek: You see he keeps doing it! I have to agree Xiney with Muffler that its a good way to go, and the use of numbers with the Residents association too may lend weight to it. It may be that the gardai could add a few more patrols up that direction, preferably on foot or bike! The other thing is that there may already be CCTV cameras up there that may have some evidence. By complaining you may create a case to introduce some up there. (worse case scenario to vandalise! ). I do have issues about big brother watching you but if it were to act as an deterrant....
But the other thing is what is the Students Union doing up there, isn't here a case too that the students representative bodies should in some ways policing/informing/guiding their own? I know there's some serious alcohol issues going on in many of our populations (not just students) , thats one issue, but creating model citizens they are not. Lets be fair someone (whoever they were) grapping your breast in that situation was sexual assault. Doesn't bad reputations go back on the college eventually, sadly in the case for the majority who are good students.:(
When the incident occured, Mr. Xiney and I contacted the college and we had a meeting with someone there. They sent out an email to the student body reminding them to be respectful (which was clearly ignored). I brought up the role the student union had to play in student-resident relations and it was kind of glossed over and ignored. I also brought up the fact that all the student union activities seemed to involve getting blitzed out of their freakin' minds (I'm more eloquent in person, I promise) and that too was sort of treated with a "well what can you do" kind of way.
I will definitely contact the residents' association and the Gardai tomorrow though - it's on my to do list.0 -
I was a student up to last year - and I assure you I wouldn't have thought it a laugh even when I was 17 and in my first year. Actually, especially not when I was 17 - I probably would have beat the living daylights out of him at that point. Thankfully I'm more mature now (Also, I haven't worked on a farm in 4 years and it would have been a much tougher fight to win)
Some might call me uptight for that. I say I'm empowered and believe I have a right to call my own body my own.
I don't think you are being uptight about it at all. Its your body, and you have the final say - end of. (Pity you didn't whop his ass) I haven't been a student for about 5 years, and I remember what they were like back then, so if things get gradually worse as time goes on, woe betide all of us at this stage. 0 -
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I'm going to be a student next year in Sligo IT,the way ye talk about them hear I'm going be feel guilty but I assure you I wont be one of the typical noisy and annoying students.
Don't worry bobcar, your secret's safe with us
The vast majority of students are not a problem anywhere. Its always the small few that end up giving every one else a bad name:(0 -
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I was a student up to last year - and I assure you I wouldn't have thought it a laugh even when I was 17 and in my first year. Actually, especially not when I was 17 - I probably would have beat the living daylights out of him at that point. Thankfully I'm more mature now (Also, I haven't worked on a farm in 4 years and it would have been a much tougher fight to win)
Some might call me uptight for that. I say I'm empowered and believe I have a right to call my own body my own.
I think this is an excellent suggestion - so posting here wasn't totally without achievement. I'd have just continued inwardly seething without the opportunity to vent - and now I've got a constructive outlet. So, yay! Complaining goes professional
When the incident occured, Mr. Xiney and I contacted the college and we had a meeting with someone there. They sent out an email to the student body reminding them to be respectful (which was clearly ignored). I brought up the role the student union had to play in student-resident relations and it was kind of glossed over and ignored. I also brought up the fact that all the student union activities seemed to involve getting blitzed out of their freakin' minds (I'm more eloquent in person, I promise) and that too was sort of treated with a "well what can you do" kind of way.
I will definitely contact the residents' association and the Gardai tomorrow though - it's on my to do list.
I have to say i have less tolerance for this wanton mindlessness coming from any quarter. Alot of vandalism, littering or dumping may be deemed as low level but can have deleterious effects. I reckon wtf its about respecting other people who live in that space, some of whom might'nt be as able or confident as Xiney to advocate for themselves. So fair play Xiney, go for it! (Thats my jerry Springer moment over.:eek:
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Anyway, the Gardai probably have a liasons officer or something that could and should pay a visit and reinforce these kind of points home. Its a two way thing as well, they should be up there to be more approachable for students to use them as a public service, so students can feel safe too.:)0 -
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Approachable or not, it won't make one iota of difference. People (students included) generally hold the Gardaí in distain and have no respect for them. The only option they are left with is to be authoritave and just uphold the law by whatever means necessary. I have a family member who is Garda and they have said its the same sort of shít in the town that they are stationed.
I would have thought thats why the Gardai need to make more of an effort to be building the lines of communication. At the very least they shoudl be doing a bit of both. Lets face it they have in many cases rightfully got bad press in the past for being a rule to themselves, lacking in what would be deemed as professional behaviour for a public body. You don't right the wrongs of the past by slipping back into authoritarian 'default' mode (again). Back to plan A lads lets round up all the students! There is however a huge culture change that needs to be made on both sides. 0 -
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Michael Mcdowells' (clears throat and spits) garda reserves for one may turn out to have been a good idea....? Doh!Good point, but it begs the question; How can this change be made? At a guess I would imagine some politician would give us a speech of empty promises such forth, and not come good on any of them.
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