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Guide - the Budget Gaming PC

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    #842
    DermotOH
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭DermotOH


    Ordering my build soon, See this case and thought It would be worth the extra €30
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28606&agid=631


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    #843
    SmokeyTheBull
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭SmokeyTheBull


    Just a quick update in case anyone cares, the rig I ordered from hwvs came on Monday, had to get an adapter for the gpu plug but not for the screen, dvd drive wouldn't work so I opened it up and it turned out the power cord(?) wasn't attached to it.

    After that everything worked grand (except for wifi but thats my fault) and it is in all fairness pretty awesome, I'm constantly taken aback by the quality of 1080p videos and games, I'm glad I'm not a dirty console peasant anymore:D. One thing I have noticed though is an obvious drop in quality as a game goes to a cutscene from gameplay, weird that its the fmvs that are having problems while I can go through the gameplay parts on high...


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    #844
    Monotype
    Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Do you mean an adapter from PSU->wall socket?
    Sorry for missing the post earlier, I would have spotted the network card, but it was a very solid build for the money. You can pick up wireless cards reasonably easily these days although perhaps not as cheap. Maybe save for homeplugs when you have the chance.


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    #845
    SmokeyTheBull
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭SmokeyTheBull


    Oh yeah, that came out all wrong, I meant from the PSU to wall, it came with the german equivalent (2-pin) so I just got one from maplin that allowed me to plug it in. The monitor came with both 2-pin and 3-pin so that was handy at least.

    No need to apologize you've been very helpful, along with everyone here. Been checking for wireless cards/usbs and they all seem to start at around 25e. I moved the router and it seems to be doing fine so I don't mind leaving it a while.


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    #846
    Mmmm_Lemony
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    I'm almost finished with my rig and need to ask a few questions before I plug it in, and power it up. I've attached 2 pics, and they are not mine

    Case:
    Ok, so I went with the Xigmatek Utgaurd mesh. (good review here) It's massive!!! I found the quick slot PCI very handy, but, the removable HD bay is very awkward, it barely gets past the motherboard and would have been easier to install this first as opposed to after, which is what the instructions suggest (and the instructions aren't great by any means, but after some trial and error, I got my head around them). There are 7 fan cables from the case. a1,a2,a3 b1,b2,b3. These 6 are accompanied by a standard 4pin pwr connection which links to same on PSU. There are 2 fan speed controllers on the case console labeled 'a' and 'b'. This may seem like a silly question but, do I need to connect the onboard case fans (3pin) directly to the motherboard, or can I just connect them to the fan speed controller? there isn't enough connections for all the fans on the mainboard.

    PSU:
    I mounted the superflower PSU with the fan facing up into case. The cables that come from it are very thick and difficult to keep tidy for this reason. There are 2 seperate connections from this for ATX that connect to the motherboard. an 8pin and 24 pin. I only have the 24 connected as the 8 pin is partially blocked, as can be seen in the image of a similar motherboard attached. Does this need to be connected also, or is it a case of 'one or the other'?

    DDR3:
    I have the 2x2gb ripjaws sticks connected to the black DDr3 slots also outlined in the pic. It fits in either but does it matter what order or where, be it black or blue?

    Heatsink;
    I went with the Mugen as suggested. I mounted the mainboard then realised I would have to mount the heatsink first, which was a bit of a nightmare as one of the prop up mounting screws from the motherboard was turning with the attachment screw while I was trying to take it back off. And it takes a bit of practice to keep the heatsink from slipping while screwing on the back plate, especially after applying the heatsink paste, which i ended up getting f€eckin everywhere. Anyway, what would be the best location for the fan? There is a case fan right beside it so is there any point having a fan facing another fan? I cant mount the fan on the bottom of the heatsink because the graphocs cars is here and there would not be enough room. the case fan layout is attached and the green sections are the possible mount locations.

    So;
    Do I need to connect the onboard case fans (3pin) directly to the motherboard, or can I just connect them to the fan speed controller?
    Is the 24pin ATX connection from the PSU enough?
    Does it matter what slot the memory is in?
    Where would be the best place (apart from the bottom) to mount the heatsink fan?


    Once again thanks for all your help. As it turned out I ended up paying 770 overall as I upgraded the case and got a few extras. I got the i5 for nothing but As I couldnt get an OS as I had originally thought, I had to fork out an extra 45 for a Windows 7 student upgrade with software4students.ie. So it ended up at 815 overall. Lesson learned I suppose. None the less I am delighted with how its turning out. Can't wait for it to be complete. Cheers!!! I may be on hounding you guys again when I start to connect the monitors :P


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    #847
    Unregistered.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    You need the ATX 24pin AND the 4/8 pin CPU.
    Whatever side you mount the heatsink fan, make sure it's pushing air through, rather than pulling. I think you should reverse either the rear case fan or the top case fan. If it were me, I'd reverse both or turn the top one off and have the rear blowing out, with the heatsink fan blowing from front to the rear.
    You need to have the memory in either both of the blue OR both of the black slots for best performance.


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    #848
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    If you want to control the fans from the fan controller connect them to that. If you want to control them from windows then use the motherboard :)

    The motherboard manual should have instructions on which RAM slots to use, though usually its both of the same colour.

    For the 4/8pin thing I'd consult the motherboard manual as well.


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    #849
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    not alot of time to reply to you, but quick suggestions:
    the PSU fan should be at the bottom, sticking out the bottom of the case (provided there is some mesh there to let air flow :)

    i generally like to have the front fan pushing air into the case, and the top and back fans pushing air out, thats what i have on my case, but my case does have a side pannel with loads of fins to let air in/out.

    by the quick glance at the Mobo from the photo, the RAM sticks should be in both the blue slots. DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B1.

    Id put the Heatsink Fan on the right (the front of the case side) pushing air towards the rear of the case, with the rear mounted fan sucking air out of the case.

    hope that starts you off ok.

    im off to drink!


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    #850
    Mmmm_Lemony
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    Unregistered. wrote: »
    You need the ATX 24pin AND the 4/8 pin CPU.
    Whatever side you mount the heatsink fan, make sure it's pushing air through, rather than pulling. I think you should reverse either the rear case fan or the top case fan. If it were me, I'd reverse both or turn the top one off and have the rear blowing out, with the heatsink fan blowing from front to the rear.
    You need to have the memory in either both of the blue OR both of the black slots for best performance.

    Thanks. There is only enough available pins for 4 not 8 though, as the other 4 have been blocked like in the photo. Should I just connect these?


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    #851
    Unregistered.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »
    Thanks. There is only enough available pins for 4 not 8 though, as the other 4 have been blocked like in the photo. Should I just connect these?
    What CPU is it? You could either just connect 4, or remove the cap and connect 8 :)


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    #852
    Mmmm_Lemony
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    Also, something I should probably mention. They sent me the wrong graphics card. This instead of this.

    Any of you ever in the same situation? Its a lower spec, not by much, but its not what I ordered. I've sent a mail to them but not sure whats going to happen next. Don't want to have to send them this card and wait for the proper one to arrive. Any idea's? Bit of a pain to be honest. Everything else was perfect and I would happily go to them again, just not sure what to do next.


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    #853
    Mmmm_Lemony
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    Unregistered. wrote: »
    What CPU is it? You could either just connect 4, or remove the cap and connect 8 :)

    It's a core i5. What is the cap there for? I was hoping not to have to connect it as the cable is quite short and everything was really tidy up to this point as I could route it all out the back. :(


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    #854
    Unregistered.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »
    It's a core i5. What is the cap there for? I was hoping not to have to connect it as the cable is quite short and everything was really tidy up to this point as I could route it all out the back. :(
    Too bad :P You can leave the cap on unless you plan on overclocking in the future. But seeing as how your PSU has an 8 pin connector (some models may only have a 4-pin, you see), then there is no harm in connecting the 8 pins, just in case you decided to go mad on the juice later on and forget!


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    #855
    Mmmm_Lemony
    Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »
    Also, something I should probably mention. They sent me the wrong graphics card. This instead of this.

    Any of you ever in the same situation? Its a lower spec, not by much, but its not what I ordered. I've sent a mail to them but not sure whats going to happen next. Don't want to have to send them this card and wait for the proper one to arrive. Any idea's? Bit of a pain to be honest. Everything else was perfect and I would happily go to them again, just not sure what to do next.
    hardwareversand wrote:
    Please send us the article for the purpose of exchange, repair or allowance. Of course we will take over the postage costs for you. Please pay first the postage costs and hand the receipt as well as your Iban and BIC code over to us. If the value of the complained article is under 40,00 € you unfortunately have to bear the costs for the return by yourself.

    Please add a copy of the invoice as well as the filled return form to the package.

    Best regards,
    Olga Renz.

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    #856
    Unregistered.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Of course we will take over the postage costs for you.

    Well in that case...

    Go for the 9 am option so that they can get the replacement shipped that day ;)


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    #857
    Kefa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Kefa


    Hi. I've been thinking about getting a new PC and thanks to this forum I've also become interested in building it myself.

    My knowledge level would be extremely basic regards component buying and the build process itself but I've been lurking around for a while trying to educate myself. I think I'd be able to get it done with a bit of advice and some system suggestions to work from.

    My budget limit is 600 euro, delivery included. I have a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I will need an OS, so Windows 7 included then.

    I'm not currently a PC gamer but with this new set-up I would like to get into it. Gaming is probably the most demanding purpose it will be used for, e.g. the latest FPSs at a good rate (Looking forward, if it could possibly handle Battlefield 3 at any sort of playable settings, without upgrade, then that would be great too. But I'm getting ahead of myself).

    No audio/video editing, office work or film downloading/watching.

    I can answer questions if you need more specifics. Thanks for reading. Suggestions welcome.


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    #858
    IrishMetalhead
    Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    €600 can actually get you a pretty good gamin set-up
    so I came up with two options for ya

    First (Best set-up for what €600 can get ya):

    CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 - €85.05
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=37141&agid=1242

    Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE - €54.29
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29282&agid=1232

    RAM: 4GB Mushkin Silverline Stiletto PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 - €38.65
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=33951&agid=1192

    Graphics Card: 1GB XFX Radeon HD 6850 - €144.47
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39466&agid=1004

    CPU Cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer 7 - €15.37
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28345&agid=669

    HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 - €46.57
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30028&agid=1284

    Disc Drive: Samsung SH-223C DVD+RW - €17.08
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29466&agid=699

    Case: Xigmatek Asgard - €30.44
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28607&agid=631

    PSU: Super-Flower Amazon 550W - €52.29
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - €87.96
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29181&agid=185

    Shipping - €30

    Total - €602.17

    Second (If the first one was abit more you were hoping to spend)
    Everything the same as above except replace the CPU and Graphics card for the following

    CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 445 - €62.16
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=37139&agid=1242

    Graphics Card: 1GB HIS Radeon HD 5770 - 102.39
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?agid=1004&aid=30808&basket.add_aid=30808&basket.tkt=5934

    Total - €537.20

    Obviously I would recommend the first one more but the econd one is if your on a tight budget even tho it's nothing to be sniffed at either.


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    #859
    SeanDoe
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭SeanDoe


    One of the best threads iv read..lots of great info.
    Big thanks to all who are throwing there specs in there:)ill be sure to thank who evers specs i use!


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    #860
    Kefa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Kefa


    Thanks for that post IrishMetalhead, I appreciate it. Around the 600 is OK, so that set-up or at least a similar combination would be alright. I'll think on it for a while and see if I can decide.


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    #861
    keithg89
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭keithg89


    I didnt really know where to put this. Anyway, I need an extremely budget gaming pc as close to 400 notes as possible. I will need it built, as I would have no clue where to even begin trying to assemble a pc. I don't need a moniter/keyboard but will need OS. Any help much appreciated


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    #862
    IrishMetalhead
    Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    keithg89 wrote: »
    I didnt really know where to put this. Anyway, I need an extremely budget gaming pc as close to 400 notes as possible. I will need it built, as I would have no clue where to even begin trying to assemble a pc. I don't need a moniter/keyboard but will need OS. Any help much appreciated

    where are you located?


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    #863
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    keithg89 wrote: »
    I didnt really know where to put this. Anyway, I need an extremely budget gaming pc as close to 400 notes as possible. I will need it built, as I would have no clue where to even begin trying to assemble a pc. I don't need a moniter/keyboard but will need OS. Any help much appreciated

    From HWVS:

    €32,30 Samsung SpinPoint F4 320GB, SATA II (HD322GJ)
    €33,93 4GB-Kit DDR3 Crucial Value PC1333 CL9
    €30,90 Xigmatek Asgard, ATX, ohne Netzteil, schwarz
    €16,81 Samsung SH-223C bare schwarz SATA
    €51,56 AMD Athlon II X2 255 Box, Sockel AM3
    €54,29 ASRock M3A770DE, Sockel AM3, ATX
    €40,38 Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W
    €80,72 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (SB-Version)
    €37,81 Sapphire HD 4650 1GB DDR2 PCI-Express
    €30,00 Delivery

    €408,70 Total


    If you can get windows cheaper elsewhere, or you can live with XP or something, I'd upgrade the following:

    GPU to:
    €102,39 HIS HD 5770 FAN GDDR5 1024MB Native HDMI Display Port D-DVI

    CPU to:
    €65,14 AMD Athlon II X3 450 "Boxed" 95W, Sockel AM3

    You could also get the slightly slower, but bigger hard drive:
    €33,52 Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II (HD502HJ)

    It really isn't too difficult to build it yourself, and you can get help from here: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056197599


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    #864
    keithg89
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭keithg89


    Thanks a million for that, I wont be getting it for a couple of weeks yet but its good to know that I can afford a some what decent spec pc.


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    #865
    Kefa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Kefa


    IrishMetalhead wrote: »
    CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 - €85.05
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=37141&agid=1242

    Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE - €54.29
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29282&agid=1232

    RAM: 4GB Mushkin Silverline Stiletto PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 - €38.65
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=33951&agid=1192

    Graphics Card: 1GB XFX Radeon HD 6850 - €144.47
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39466&agid=1004

    CPU Cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer 7 - €15.37
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28345&agid=669

    HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 - €46.57
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30028&agid=1284

    Disc Drive: Samsung SH-223C DVD+RW - €17.08
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29466&agid=699

    Case: Xigmatek Asgard - €30.44
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28607&agid=631

    PSU: Super-Flower Amazon 550W - €52.29
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - €87.96
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29181&agid=185

    Shipping - €30

    Total - €602.17

    Some quick questions for anyone:

    Would I be better off with the Phenom II X4 840?

    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43656&agid=1242&lb

    Would this be any better/worse than the AC Freezer 7?

    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39770&agid=66

    And would I have to change anything by subbing in either/both of those to the above system.

    Thanks.

    Edit: Also, If I could make some savings elsewhere (or increase my budget), could I get a better motherboard (and which)?


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    #866
    IrishMetalhead
    Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    Kefa wrote: »
    Some quick questions for anyone:

    Would I be better off with the Phenom II X4 840?

    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43656&agid=1242&lb

    Would this be any better/worse than the AC Freezer 7?

    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39770&agid=66

    And would I have to change anything by subbing in either/both of those to the above system.

    Thanks.

    Edit: Also, If I could make some savings elsewhere (or increase my budget), could I get a better motherboard (and which)?

    The phenom 840 would be a better choice without a doubt but that cooler isn't as good as the freezer 7 because the freezer 7 is already the best 92mm cooler you can get.
    wouldn't change the motherboard tbh it's already a great one but if you were to make savings else where or increase your budget i would recommend getting the phenom 955 instead which has an L3 cache which the 840 does not and its an brilliant overclocker


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    #867
    IrishMetalhead
    Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    keithg89 I went and specced out a pc w\o a os just in case you find one somewhere else cheaper ;)

    2rpd6b4.png

    Plus shipping of €30 the total should come to €387.60


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    #868
    Kefa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Kefa


    IrishMetalhead wrote: »
    The phenom 840 would be a better choice without a doubt but that cooler isn't as good as the freezer 7 because the freezer 7 is already the best 92mm cooler you can get.
    wouldn't change the motherboard tbh it's already a great one but if you were to make savings else where or increase your budget i would recommend getting the phenom 955 instead which has an L3 cache which the 840 does not and its an brilliant overclocker

    Thanks IrishMetalhead, you've been a great help.


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    #869
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    lads i didnt want to start a thread, but im concidering a HTPC build.
    i want the case to be as small as possible(possibly/preferably a horizontal standing case), and look kinda nice, and a 2tb+ HDD.
    no gaming is going to be done really, just music and movies hooked up to a HDtv.
    id also like it to be as quiet as possible, and as low power draw as possible, because it'll probably be on 24/7, and doing downloading/serving the other PC's/laptops in the house.

    any thoughts on a fanless CPU cooler? do they work? temps arent important, just quiet and not going to melt anything.

    dont need:
    OS
    speakers
    monitor
    FWIW, ive a spare amd athlon x3 stock heatsink/fan.
    ive a spare PCI wireless card lying around, but id prefer onboard wireless if possible.

    do need:
    Case, as mentioned above
    Mobo
    HDD:2tb+ preferably. (ive an old 160gb F1 drive i could use as an OS HDD, but its quite slow, and maybe a 5400rpm F4 or similar? - suggestions welcome!)
    ram
    PSU
    GPU? or good onboard GPU if suggested?
    wireless KB/mouse (not german layout if HWVS is suggested) actually, a nice HTPC combo KB/mouse with the trackball or whatever, if they're any good? any suggestions welcome here.

    i can build it myself, and it'll be running W7 x64
    what can the guru's come up with?
    also please no VIA sound. it needs to be able to go through HDMI for now, and eventually through a nice 2.1 sound system, in the future.

    budget is €400 at the absolute upper limit, but i want it to be as cheap as chips if possible. also, was leaning (hoping) towards an athlon x3 because they're fantastic value for money, but if an X2 is all the budget will hold, so be it.

    any advice will be much appreciated!!


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    #870
    IrishMetalhead
    Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    lads i didnt want to start a thread, but im concidering a HTPC build.
    i want the case to be as small as possible(possibly/preferably a horizontal standing case), and look kinda nice, and a 2tb+ HDD.
    no gaming is going to be done really, just music and movies hooked up to a HDtv.
    id also like it to be as quiet as possible, and as low power draw as possible, because it'll probably be on 24/7, and doing downloading/serving the other PC's/laptops in the house.

    any thoughts on a fanless CPU cooler? do they work? temps arent important, just quiet and not going to melt anything.

    dont need:
    OS
    speakers
    monitor
    FWIW, ive a spare amd athlon x3 stock heatsink/fan.
    ive a spare PCI wireless card lying around, but id prefer onboard wireless if possible.

    do need:
    Case, as mentioned above
    Mobo
    HDD:2tb+ preferably. (ive an old 160gb F1 drive i could use as an OS HDD, but its quite slow, and maybe a 5400rpm F4 or similar? - suggestions welcome!)
    ram
    PSU
    GPU? or good onboard GPU if suggested?
    wireless KB/mouse (not german layout if HWVS is suggested) actually, a nice HTPC combo KB/mouse with the trackball or whatever, if they're any good? any suggestions welcome here.

    i can build it myself, and it'll be running W7 x64
    what can the guru's come up with?
    also please no VIA sound. it needs to be able to go through HDMI for now, and eventually through a nice 2.1 sound system, in the future.

    budget is €400 at the absolute upper limit, but i want it to be as cheap as chips if possible. also, was leaning (hoping) towards an athlon x3 because they're fantastic value for money, but if an X2 is all the budget will hold, so be it.

    any advice will be much appreciated!!

    CPU, GPU + Mobo: ASUS AT3IONT-I Deluxe, ATOM 330, NVIDIA ION - €155.86
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30407&agid=1391

    RAM: 4GB GEIL Value Plus - €35.43
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38614&agid=1192

    HDD: 2TB Sasmung Spinpoint F4 EcoGreen €71.39
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38561&agid=1284

    DVD Drive: Samsung SN-S083F DVD+RW - €30.68
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39531&agid=699

    Case & PSU: JCP Mini-ITX Gehäuse, 60W - €54.18
    http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=24396&agid=1199

    Shipping - €30

    Total - €377.54

    I'm unsure about the PSU tho because I'm unsure if the mobo has it's onboard power or not...

    Ediut: Just looked up the specs of the board and it does have it's own onboard power so nothing to worry about there =]


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    #871
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    that looks great IMHead, but im a bit worried about the mobo/CPU/GPU combo. great in theory, and gets fairly good reviews, but anything with ATOM written on it sends alarm bells flying. is it in any way upgradable down the line? i was hoping for at least an athlon X2 or a "real" processor, something you wouldnt stick in a 9" netbook. are they going to draw too much power and need a large mobo, therefore needing a new case which can take a full size PSU/mobo?


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