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    #182
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    iamhunted wrote: »
    no, no - you told me to read the lisbon thread. thats not "here are the links"
    Oh, I'm sorry. Here are the links.
    Very funny considering Ive never denied ever being banned before. You sure you're reading the right post there mr bravo?
    Pretty sure, yes:
    iamhunted wrote: »
    ...im banned from the forum so I cant anyway. banned for having an opinion that differed I may add.
    iamhunted wrote: »
    ...I got banned another zillion times but never it seems for anything other than ducking a previous ban...
    So, which is it? Were you banned for your opinions or banned for re-registering to evade a ban?


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    #183
    iamhunted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭iamhunted


    oh man i really wish my world was as simplified as yours seems to be. let me help you out here.
    So, which is it? Were you banned for your opinions or banned for re-registering to evade a ban?

    Banned because I shared the IP address with someone who pissed a mod off. Banned afterwards for having an opinion (damn those shinners, they're all the same shure arent they) and then eventually banned as I had re-registered. All based on a bad banning decision in the first place - not that I really *need* to explain such simple things to a god such as yourself there.


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    #184
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    iamhunted wrote: »
    Banned because I shared the IP address with someone who pissed a mod off.
    Who was that?
    Banned afterwards for having an opinion (damn those shinners, they're all the same shure arent they)
    Yup, all the same. Which is why everyone who has ever expressed support for Sinn Féin is permanently banned from Politics. Right?
    and then eventually banned as I had re-registered.
    Which you knew was contrary to a site-wide policy, but did anyway.
    All based on a bad banning decision in the first place - not that I really *need* to explain such simple things to a god such as yourself there.
    So, help me out. Who was the user who got banned and caused all your subsequent problems?


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    #185
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Err Tonto ordinary mods can't see IP addresses. We do request that admins check suspect ones out and if other factors indicate that there is something amiss then we take a decision.

    What was your former username?


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    #186
    Rock Climber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Rock Climber


    gandalf wrote: »
    Err Tonto ordinary mods can't see IP addresses. We do request that admins check suspect ones out and if other factors indicate that there is something amiss then we take a decision.

    What was your former username?
    Have a look at the first few posts in this thread for the back ground on who "i am hunted actually" is.


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    #187
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    What forum is that thread in?


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    #188
    iamhunted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭iamhunted


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Who was that? Yup, all the same. Which is why everyone who has ever expressed support for Sinn Féin is permanently banned from Politics. Right? Which you knew was contrary to a site-wide policy, but did anyway. So, help me out. Who was the user who got banned and caused all your subsequent problems?

    with all respect, I didnt get any help at the time so its a bit late in the day. You should do a poll and see how many shinners were banned from politics - hang on - you cant as they cant reply.
    Have a look at the first few posts in this thread for the back ground on who "i am hunted actually" is.

    looks like i chose the username 'iamhunted' well.


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    #189
    iamhunted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭iamhunted


    gandalf wrote: »
    What was your former username?

    which one? I cant remember half of them.


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    #190
    iamhunted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭iamhunted


    rockclimber, youve only to go to the paranormal forum and Im sure you'll find out info on iamhunted. dont know about "i am hunted actually" is though.


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    #191
    Rock Climber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Rock Climber


    iamhunted wrote: »
    rockclimber, youve only to go to the paranormal forum and Im sure you'll find out info on iamhunted. dont know about "i am hunted actually" is though.
    You were banned on politics by one of my then co mods for a rule violation.
    You then went on a sign up spree re posting what you were banned for.

    You are actually a site banned user several times over who has flown under the radar with your current user name apart from being banned in politics obviously with it.
    I would suggest that you retreat and carry on flying under the radar.
    sabotage wrote:
    What forum is that thread in?

    6th , that would be the politics mod forum accessable to admins,existing and former mods of politics only.I posted it here for Gandalf's attention only and the current politics mods aswell.


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    #192
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    Internet Politics. Serious Business.


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    #193
    jessop1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    The irony of banning me from posting a topic and then accusing me of not wanting to discuss it seems to be lost on some here.
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    You're waiting for answers, and I'm a liar?

    You're a funny fecker, I'll give you that. Twelve out of ten for having a neck like a jockey's bollox.

    ....There's a perception of bias, because one muppet has claimed I'm biased

    Your descent to insults and vulgarity says a lot… but nothing I didn’t already know.
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    ...but the allegators (see what I did there?) seem a lot less interested in actually providing any evidence to back up their claims.

    …They want to make claims, but they don't want to discuss them or back them up. That's what we are describing as soapboxing (there's your definition for you, jessop1) and we consider it an abuse of the forum."

    Thanks for the definition. And yet you have repeatedly ignored my requests to back up the soapboxing claims with evidence...therefore by your own definition it is you who is soapboxing. hoisted by your own petard methinks.
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    He wants to post his little video, and he doesn't want to have a conversation about it"

    I've stated repeatedly on this thread I want to have a conversation about it. But you have repeatedly refused to tell me where it can be discussed. The message so far has been “not in the politics forum” but no reason why.
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    ...but I asked jessop1 a simple question: where did I state my political views?
    He resorted to arm-waving and bluster, because he knew I'd caught him out in a bare-faced lie"

    Your one-line blanket dismissal of swathes of information in my sig link was “stating your political views” on information (the political ramifications of the treaty) that is being politically debated all over the country. Said blanket dismissal is also the reason why I think you are biased. I believe there are other examples in the history of the mega thread but I wont bother wasting any more time on that. I'm clearly not the only one who thinks you are baised.
    oscarBravo wrote: »
    As for the original complaint in this thread, I wouldn't have allowed anyone to start a new thread on the topic with a video link.

    According to the guidelines you wrote yourself, videos are allowed as long as they are described and discussion is invited. I met all that criteria when I originally posted it in the mega thread. My posts were subsequently deleted.

    Gandalf wrote: »
    As regards the Lisbon Treaty I have made my mind up how I am voting. I will be voting no, but not because of the rubbish that jessop01 and others have posted on the politics forum.

    What rubbish? All I posted in politics was:
    a) A leaked memo newspaper report and my opinion that it reflects disrepect of the political elite towards the populace
    b) the video and description of it (and the implicit invite to discussion on it)

    That’s all I’ve posted in politics! We could have discussed why you think they are rubbish only the first was closed and the second deleted before they could get off the ground!

    Anyhoo, I’m done posting on this thread, it has become way too unwieldy and people are talking at cross-purposes all over the place. (sound familiar?)

    To re-cap on my original reasons for this thread,

    1) Complaint that only one thread could be posted on the Lisbon treaty
    2) Complaint that the eu parliament protest video is banned for no good reason.

    I have started this new thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55760287#post55760287 to follow up on the video, because the message has gotten lost in the rest of the noise on this thread. I hope I can get an answer this time.


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    #194
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    duty_calls.png


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    #195
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Rock Climber wrote: »
    6th , that would be the politics mod forum accessable to admins,existing and former mods of politics only.I posted it here for Gandalf's attention only and the current politics mods aswell.

    Christ should I have even bothered changing my name? :pac:


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    #196
    jessop1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    gandalf wrote: »
    duty_calls.png

    dont let me keep you so. quick hurry she or he might still be awake.

    kbyethx


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    #197
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    jessop1 wrote: »
    Anyhoo, I’m done posting on this thread, it has become way too unwieldy and people are talking at cross-purposes all over the place. (sound familiar?)

    So you lie as well as talking crap ;)

    Night Night OCD :)


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    #198
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    gandalf wrote: »
    So you lie as well as talking crap ;)

    Night Night OCD :)

    Night!

    Leave my Super Quninn alone.

    Controbiofuelvehicle.


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    #199
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    D check!!!!


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    #200
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    Simplicity wrote: »
    D check!!!!

    Yep!!


    We capitalise the Y!

    /sleeps


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    #201
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    Simplicity wrote: »
    Yep!!


    We capitalise the Y!

    /sleeps

    Your talking to yourself.... go to bed...


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    #202
    Villain
    Registered Users Posts: 15,944 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    And yet, that's at odds with the legal advice sought and received by the Politics mods.

    "But, yeronner, some randomer on the Internet said it wasn't illegal..."


    What legal advice is that OB, I'd be very interested in seeing it, because if its the reply you got from the legal froum mod I have a PM from him which would show he didn't give legal advice on the opinion I posted about Bertie.


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    #203
    Villain
    Registered Users Posts: 15,944 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Rock Climber wrote: »
    You were demodded.Clearly it was a big deal.
    Without permission you leaked details of a private discussion on mod aswell as of course discussing moderation in a thread on politics when thats also disallowed.
    I was never told it wasn't allowed and the rules of the mod froum never stated it wasn't allowed.
    Rock Climber wrote: »
    Thats a lie.

    Nope its not and I'd love to see you prove I lied, and btw I still have the PM's which the admin sent in relation to that topic. Go on show I lied??? You see I said a certain politician lied and provided proof and it wasn't allowed and the Fair comment defence of Defamation covered what I said. However you saying I lied is not backed up by any proof and fair comment doesn't cover you deframing me????
    Rock Climber wrote: »
    probably 90% or more of the voting public shared my view as opposed to your Sinn Féin party line on some of the the issues we may have disagreed on.
    Your disdain for the other 90% isn't untypical of many followers of that party though.

    I don't follow that party and 90% of posters in the forum certainly didn't disagree and if you want use facts 40% believe what I said about Bertie is true??


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    #204
    Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    Villain wrote: »
    You see I said a certain politician lied and provided proof and it wasn't allowed and the Fair comment defence of Defamation covered what I said. However you saying I lied is not backed up by any proof and fair comment doesn't cover you deframing me????

    How can someone defame your username exactly?

    You're some clown Irish1 :)


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    #205
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Villain wrote: »
    I was never told it wasn't allowed and the rules of the mod froum never stated it wasn't allowed.
    The only reason rules have to be defined is because a significant minority of people can't use their own cop on when deciding what the right thing to do is.

    Luckily here on boards.ie, the "It's not in the rules, so it's not wrong" doesn't fly. If you do something dumb, you're likely to be banned.


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    #206
    Vexorg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,901 ✭✭✭Vexorg


    Closed

    Villian if I come across you again complaining about the politics forum, I will remove you from the site entirely, you have been unfairly complaining about that forum for years and to be honest I am sick of it, its the same story over and over again and you twist this around to suggest you have been defamed in some way is just the final straw.

    If anyone else feels that the politics forum is censored and cannot accept that it is heavily moderated for a reason and has "always" be heavily moderated, please feel free not to use that particular forum.

    There is no conspiracy, the forum is heavily moderated and it is moderated based on our experiences of many discussions going off the rails.

    Vex.


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