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Chimney question

  • 22-04-2008 6:10pm
    #1
    Foleyart
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    We are in a new house and the builder made a mistake in that he did not put in a chimney upstairs.He misread the plans and it would be too much hassle to get him back and screw up the house again. The Kitchen is downstairs and the sitting room is directly overhead.The kitchen doesnt need a fire, underfloor heating, but we could do with a small stove in the sitting room. Is it possible to graft a flue into the existing chimney upstairs for a small woodburning stove.?


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  • #2
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,671 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Ok, you are going to have to re-write that post. You have a mistake somewhere.
    Foleyart wrote: »
    We are in a new house and the builder made a mistake in that he did not put in a chimney upstairs.He misread the plans and it would be too much hassle to get him back and screw up the house again. The Kitchen is downstairs and the sitting room is directly overhead.The kitchen doesnt need a fire, underfloor heating, but we could do with a small stove in the sitting room. Is it possible to graft a flue into the existing chimney upstairs for a small woodburning stove.?

    First no chimney, then an existing chimney.

    What did the builder forget, what do you have.


  • #3
    ircoha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭ircoha


    my guess is that the flue from kitchen passes up through the upstairs sitting room and they want to break into the flue from kitchen fireplace which they wont be using due to UFH


  • #4
    Foleyart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Foleyart


    ircoha wrote: »
    my guess is that the flue from kitchen passes up through the upstairs sitting room and they want to break into the flue from kitchen fireplace which they wont be using due to UFH

    Absolutely correct. sorry my mistake, I should have said there is an existing chimney from the kitchen which runs up through the sitting room, and as you said this is redundant due to UFH. Pipes to bedrooms run through one side of the kitchen and there is a constant heat source in existance because of it.The builder forgot to put a chimney in upstairs.:o


  • #5
    250882
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭250882


    you just did it again!!!!:p
    he forgot to put in a FIREPLACE!!!
    In order to retro fit the fire place on first floor you would have to fit a hearth, and flue gatherer (very messy and make sure that there is adequate support in the existing floor to support the hearth). There are also issues with supporting a fireplace on a timber floor (if thats what you have) even a wood burning stove can get very hot but maybe the projection of the chimney breast below will suffice. Also if there is only 1 flue then the fireplace below should be blocked up (if leave it and you sell the house you wouldnt want anybody to light a fire in it)


  • #6
    Foleyart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Foleyart


    Ok mea culpa ! he forgot to put in a fireplace upstairs, and a corresponding flue. The upstairs floor is indeed a timber floor but it is laid on a concrete screed. Difficult to explain due to the design of the house. The upstairs only contains a sitting room and an office. It sits into the downstairs almost like a Pagoda in that there is a roof on the first floor and the second story sits into this a long rectangle with lots of windows and a roof on top. small attic. The upper story sits in a steel frame so I dont think there should be a problem with support. There is a space between the chimney column and a dumb waiter coming up from the kitchen which is where we would like to put the stove. There is an open square in the timber floor for it and the plan is to put in a 3" screed and tiles to sit the stove upon. If we block off or close off the flue in the kitchen, is it possible to run a flue from the upstairs stove in to the existing chimney.


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  • #7
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Foleyart wrote: »
    Ok mea culpa ! he forgot to put in a fireplace upstairs, and a corresponding flue. The upstairs floor is indeed a timber floor but it is laid on a concrete screed. Difficult to explain due to the design of the house. The upstairs only contains a sitting room and an office. It sits into the downstairs almost like a Pagoda in that there is a roof on the first floor and the second story sits into this a long rectangle with lots of windows and a roof on top. small attic. The upper story sits in a steel frame so I dont think there should be a problem with support. There is a space between the chimney column and a dumb waiter coming up from the kitchen which is where we would like to put the stove. There is an open square in the timber floor for it and the plan is to put in a 3" screed and tiles to sit the stove upon. If we block off or close off the flue in the kitchen, is it possible to run a flue from the upstairs stove in to the existing chimney.

    Are you asking if you can close the flue to the GF kitchen and use it on the first floor to service a new stove???
    if so then the answer is yes.
    probably best to close up the gf flue just at the flue gatherer in case its ever needed to be opened again. test out the draw before you connect the stove into the existing flue...


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