Is it wrong to use drugs.

unreggd

Drug users are saps

If ye rely on drugs for enjoyment it doesnt say much about you as a person

unreggd

unreggd wrote: »

Drug users are saps

If ye rely on drugs for enjoyment it doesnt say much about you as a person

Someone who is very very shy and needs something to break the ice with girls.....beer is good.

Someone who's highly stressed and needs to chill .... weed is good.

Coffee.......wakes u up in the morning and might keep you from being fired for falling asleep on the job.

Chronic debilitating anxiety? Take your meds to feel normal.

Viagra.... All the benefits of regular secks except u can go again and again and again and again and if u cant get it up then thats your man! :P:pac:

Asprin.....gets rid of a headache.

U get my point. Just a few random "drugs" out there.

None of the above substances would cause a family to disown someone, not in the same way as someone taking coke or heroin would, and yet all when abused can be disastrous.

How are these things, when not absolutely abused, a bad thing?

Kold

unreggd wrote: »

Drug users are saps

If ye rely on drugs for enjoyment it doesnt say much about you as a person

Some of us get bored of chronic masturbation.

SoWatchaWant

I'm against using drugs as a rule, you never know if we have to end up paying for your rehabilitation in taxes. I'm sure there are people out there who can handle their drugs, but how are the rest of us to know that? And why should you expect the law to go through the effort of judging, if it's just for the benefit of you getting high?

I just assume that all people who use are becoming addicts, and so should the law. Better a few people missing out on getting stoned than the population paying for the therapy of dipshits.

(In a world where prohibition of drugs works):o

MrDaithi

Soft drugs ... no just ask the Dutch they are pretty brilliant as a nation. Also Spain and a couple US states don't consider having a very small amount as a crime.

Hard drugs ... yes.

Red Sleeping Beauty

javaboy wrote: »

Personally I see having a rotund Minister for Health as a good thing. Yeah sure it seems like having a slim trim fitness king/queen for MOH would be great but how do you expect such a person to empathise with diabetics, people with heart problems, heel pain etc. and all the other conditions associated with obesity?

I'm sure there's many people who have been wronged in one way or another would disagree that Mary Harney "empathised" with them or their ilness and needs.

blow69 wrote: »

Question: Say if alcohol was recently introduced into the world, would you consume it?

We've enough beers rebranded and rebooted thanks. No more.

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone who is very very shy and needs something to break the ice with girls.....beer is good.

The majority of the country's hetero male population you mean ? :pac:
Hehe

the_syco

unreggd wrote: »

Drug users are saps

You haven't got preggers yet, have ya? Ye'll be screaming for them in no time!

=-=

If little Johnnies dad drank alot, and Johnnie did something by accident, Johnnie would probably get beaten for it. If Johnniesdad smoked weed, they'd be chilled about it. True, they could be both wasters, but the one smoking weed wouldn't negatively effect the rest of their family.

JC 2K3

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

I'm against using drugs as a rule, you never know if we have to end up paying for your rehabilitation in taxes. I'm sure there are people out there who can handle their drugs, but how are the rest of us to know that? And why should you expect the law to go through the effort of judging, if it's just for the benefit of you getting high?

I just assume that all people who use are becoming addicts, and so should the law. Better a few people missing out on getting stoned than the population paying for the therapy of dipshits.

(In a world where prohibition of drugs works):o

So you're for the banning of alcohol?

brendansmith

Why not!

Evidence every Saturday night would see that is the good thing to do!

Dragan

unreggd wrote: »

Drug users are saps

If ye rely on drugs for enjoyment it doesnt say much about you as a person

Yawn. Give me an argument that is not one dimensional opinion maybe?

How many people go out for a night and drink water?

Is everyone else , including people who enjoy a few drinks, a sap?

I mean, the majority of people i know who drink really see that aspect of their night as being enjoyable. I know i do when i have a few drinks every now and then.

SoWatchaWant

JC 2K3 wrote: »

So you're for the banning of alcohol?

No. You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

Red Sleeping Beauty

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

No. You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

haha, you got a giggley smile out of me for that.

javaboy

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

No. You can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

I beg to differ.

Wertz

Javaboy's sig is as good as any drug.

*stares for another 10 minutes*

ScumLord

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

I just assume that all people who use are becoming addicts, and so should the law.

Why would you assume the impossible? Cannabis is not addictive. People can smoke it allot but technically their not addicted.

Gummy Panda

ScumLord wrote: »

Why would you assume the impossible? Cannabis is not addictive. People can smoke it allot but technically their not addicted.

are you sure?

I knew a fairly academic smart lad who smoked himself into a retard. He seemed to have a dependency on the stuff

Rob_l

ScumLord wrote: »

Why would you assume the impossible? Cannabis is not addictive. People can smoke it allot but technically their not addicted.

Eh technically you say?

I think technically it is, technically speaking like

ScumLord

It's not addictive in the way heroin or cocaine is. You can become dependent on it and smoke your self into retardation but that's a choice you make. I take brakes from it every so often only because I build up an immunity and don't get the kick I want off it. I'm currently off it at the moment so I can enjoy a green Christmas.

Cannabis is not physically addictive. You can give up any time. You might miss it but you won't go through withdrawals.

Rob_l

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not addictive in the way heroin or cocaine is. You can become dependent on it and smoke your self into retardation but that's a choice you make. I take brakes from it every so often only because I build up an immunity and don't get the kick I want off it. I'm currently off it at the moment so I can enjoy a green Christmas.

Cannabis is not physically addictive. You can give up any time. You might miss it but you won't go through withdrawals.

Ah I see the old its not addictive physically line but how has this been proven?
Isn't mental addiction, still addiction presuming your technically right in saying its not physically addictive?

ScumLord

Rob_l wrote: »

Ah I see the old its not addictive physically line but how has this been proven?
Isn't mental addiction, still addiction presuming your technically right in saying its not physically addictive?

There's a huge difference between being physically addicted to a substance and being dependent on something.

Rob_l

ScumLord wrote: »

There's a huge difference between being physically addicted to a substance and being dependent on something.

Ah come on now your just trying word play with me, I haven't got a problem with weed but to try and say it is not addictive is just silly.

No current proper research would dare try and say its not addictive all drugs activate a part of the brain which rewards you for taking the substance which leads to addiciton it may not have the classic withdrawal symtoms of the harder drugs but it is still addictive.

Wertz

Weed/cannabis users are prone to psychological dependence but not physical dependence...if you don't understand the distinction between the two then there's not much point in saying that scumlord is being pedantic in his argument or playing on words.

mickos

I smoked weed from when I got up till I went to bed for about 4 years a while back. Found it seriously difficult when I tried to give up but I did eventually minus a few million brain cells and hate it now. I find it just makes me a paronoid freak if I smoke now & i'm sure it did back then too. I can't understand the attraction to it at all. Nothing against anyone who does smoke, just grow your own. Don't give the little ****ebags that sell it any business.

Rob_l

Wertz wrote: »

Weed/cannabis users are prone to psychological dependence but not physical dependence...if you don't understand the distinction between the two then there's not much point in saying that scumlord is being pedantic in his argument or playing on words.

No i dont see the difference bewteen the two in both cases the users feels a need or urge to take the substance to me thats plain and simple its an addiction, if that be mental or physical is irrelavant because we are taking addiction not technicalities.

The words dependance and addiction are interchangeable not opposing meanings.

javaboy

Rob_l wrote: »

No current proper research would dare try and say its not addictive all drugs activate a part of the brain which rewards you for taking the substance which leads to addiciton it may not have the classic withdrawal symtoms of the harder drugs but it is still addictive.

Can the same logic not be applied to any activity or substance that a person enjoys? Scratchcards, Boards, chocolate, exercise, television, sex etc. You can portray anything as potentially addictive if you want.

Rob_l

javaboy wrote: »

Can the same logic not be applied to any activity or substance that a person enjoys? Scratchcards, Boards, chocolate, exercise, television, sex etc. You can portray anything as potentially addictive if you want.

Indeed you can!
And to the person who suffers form such an addiction can they not equally be just as damaging as any other form of physical addiction?

But I still refute any claims that marijauna does not cause physical addiction!

JimmyCrackCorn!

If gambling is addictive i dont see why weed isnt. Weed may be far less destructive and not have the same level of difficulty in breaking the habbit but it is none the less adictive.


The issue is like any drug it demands respect and this notion that youu can smoke as much as you like and not suffer any form of addiction is just a licence to overdo things.

If you overdo things well lets just say its a fantastic drug for abandoning reality, substituting your own and also a great way to dig yourself into a nice rut with no motivation to change anything. (seen this over and over and over again)


Classic Narcotics ananoymous test
http://www.na.org/ips/eng/IP7.htm

There was a time when i failed the above test(just dope) and i have many friends to this day who would fail with distinction.

Who cares to be honest its this attitude of weed is good thats silly. Its not good it demands respect both for it and yourself, same as alcahol, same as all drugs.

blow69

I guess you can become more addicted to it than somebody else IF you have an addictive personality to begin with.

MagicMarker wrote: »

Where do you buy it?

Just around....I'm not gonna relinquish that kind of information!

laurak265

robby^5 wrote: »

Marijuana should be legalized.

a) because its a pointless ban, marijuana is only as dangerous as alchohol or tabacco, and only if its abused, so why the double standard?
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How the HELL do you abuse tobacco? Tobacco doesn't rot your brain or make you as high as a kite...your not a danger to every road user in the country is you smoke tobacco in your car compared to marijuana...Tobacco doesn't give ya a nasty hangover and make you obnoxious to live with every bloody day!

Most of ye are just defending drugs because your trying to defend your own actions. I feel sorry for ye that ye have to be high to have a laugh with your mates...I think ye need to get new mates that make you laugh without drugs!!

Heroditas

laurak265 wrote: »

Tobacco doesn't [...] make you obnoxious to live with every bloody day!

It does if there's a constant cloud of filty smoke emanating from you! :pac: