Worlds best 11 post 1994 World Cup

spiderdan

I thought it'd be interesting to make up a worlds best 11 from when I really started to follow football seriuosly, i.e. 94 World cup.

Old School 4-4-2....


Buffon(It)


Cafu(Bra) McGrath(Ire) Cannovaro (Ita) Maldini (Ita)


Figo (Por) Zidane (Fra) Keane (Ire) L. Messi (Arg)


Ronaldo (Bra) Henry (Fra)


Subs

Cech
Nesta
Thuram
Makalele
Rigeulme
C. Ronaldo
Romario

Manager: Lippi

Im aware Messi is a right winger at present- couldn't think of anyone else on the left as good as him! Also no Ronaldinho too- I know I know, I really rate Rigeulme

Xavi6

Is this actual best or your personal favourites that you've grown up with?

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No Rivaldo?

He was absolute when he was with Barca.

I'd have Makalele in the team ahead of Keane tbh.

RE*AC*TOR

George Weah maybe - he was some beast in his day!

spiderdan

No not my personal fav's i.e. just the best overall team that I've grown up watching, decent balance accross the pitch etc, yeah Rivaldo was, quality one player who I really liked was Redondo! maybe a place on the bench- Weah some beast alright! great finisher

Mr Alan

two irish players in the greatest players in the world for the last 14 years?

we're doing well aint we?

invincibleirish

Shearer!

for the goals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNfZMGi88ww&feature=related

for the infamy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_7WGYa9nQ&feature=related


Remember when Weah was at Chelsea, he was no where near the player he was, but he di score a few, and still won a FA Cup Medal though :mad:

Chong

I would also think Ronaldinho deserves a mention, fair enough he isnt the same anymore but for 3 seasons he was the worlds greatest player.

Mr.Nice Guy

I would say Bergkamp in his prime deserves a mention too. He was frighteningly good around '97, '98. I remember my jaw dropping in amazement over that goal he scored against Argentina in the World Cup. Me and my friend kept talking it about it all day. Top player. Personally I'd have him before Henry although I know some people would disagree strongly with me on that.

whatawaster

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Buffon

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Cafu

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Cannevaro

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Nesta

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Maldini

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Keane

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Messi

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Zidane

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Raul

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Ronaldo

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Romario

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Subs:
Casillas
Thuram
Makelele
Ronaldinho
Henry

Mr Alan

Bergkamp is probably my favourite ever player (outside Liverpool )

classic player

Xavi6

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I would say Bergkamp in his prime deserves a mention too. He was frighteningly good around '97, '98. I remember my jaw dropping in amazement over that goal he scored against Argentina in the World Cup. Me and my friend kept talking it about it all day. Top player. Personally I'd have him before Henry although I know some people would disagree strongly with me on that.

A massive +1 from me. That goal against the Argies is in the top 5 best I've ever seen.

His hattrick v Leicester was special too. A joy to watch.

Dempsey

Buffon

Cafu      Cannavaro         Nesta       Maldini

Figo       Zidane            Davids     Ronaldinho

            Ronaldo             Rivaldo

Subs:

Casillas
Thuram
Sammar
Baggio
Keane
Weah
Kaka

kev_s88

id have to through Peter Schmeichel in there as keeper.he was an animal

Mr. Presentable

Dempsey wrote: »

Buffon

Cafu      Cannavaro         Nesta       Maldini

Figo       Zidane            Davids     Ronaldinho

            Ronaldo             Rivaldo

Yeah, that's about right. Maybe Batistuta instead of Rivaldo.

Xavi6

Davids?! :eek:

LuckyLloyd

DesF wrote: »

I'd have Makalele in the team ahead of Keane tbh.

lol. That is a pretty bad post.

UnitedIrishman

Schmeichel

Cafu      Cannavaro         Nesta       Maldini

Figo       Zidane            Keane     Giggs

            Ronaldo             Rivaldo

Subs:

Buffon
Thuram
Davids
Redondo
Ronaldinho
Raul

Pepe LeFrits

Xavi6 wrote: »

A massive +1 from me. That goal against the Argies is in the top 5 best I've ever seen.

His hattrick v Leicester was special too. A joy to watch.

Oh sweeeeet jesus I've actually welled up. I need to go calm down.

LuckyLloyd

I think this is difficult. But:

Schmeicel (wtf at anyone who doesn't pick him?)

Cafu (the old chestnut was that he couldn't defend but so what - a winner)
Cannavaro (astonishing for a couple of years up to and during WC2006)
Desailly (because we saw his last years at Chelsea it is fashionable to forget how ****ing dominant he was for a period)
Maldini (again, we think of him in the centre - but he played left back in his prime)

Figo (this is simple)
Zidane (this is simple)
Keane (c) (go back and watch: Ireland vs Portugal Landsdowne 2001; Utd vs Juve Turin 1999; Leverkusen vs Utd 2002; Ireland vs France Landsdowne 2005)
Messi? (I'm slightly at a loss here)

Ronaldo (seriously, before the first injury he stomped on everything)
Rivaldo (he was THAT good at Barca and in the 2002 WC)

Nesta
Carlos
Rui Costa
Totti
Romario

Rushed the bench, you could probably debate it forever.

I guess Lippi, but I'm tempted to take the Brazilian dude who managed Portugal and turned down England.

MrJoeSoap

20 posts and no mention of Le Tissier. You all make me sick. I'm off to the pub.

spiderdan

How did I forget Schmeichel?? although Buffon was/ is still a great keeper. I guess Ronaldinho deserves a place on the bench but I'm a huge admirer of Riguelme! McGrath's obviously an Irish bias, but he was immense in 94! and continued for another 2 years- anyone else consider him to be good enough?? Bergkamp another legand but his trophy cabinet along with his Dutch team mates- far too empty! 1 Uefa cup along with his Arsenal champs??

LuckyCharms

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Kahn

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Cafu

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Cannevaro

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Nesta

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Maldini---

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Figo

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Keane

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Zidane

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Romario----Ronaldo

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Rivaldo

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Subs
Schmeichel
Thuram
Suker
Bergknamp
Baggio
Ronaldinho
Batistuta

Really tight between Kahn and Schmeichel , ive changed my mind about them 5 times already since posting.

kryogen

Schmeichel

Cafu Desailly Cannavaro Maldini

Figo Zidane Keane Giggs

Ronaldo Rivaldo


Subs
Buffon
Thuram
Makelele
Messi
Ronaldinho
Bergkamp
RVN


Some seriously close calls for me.... i would have Romario in my 24 but i cant not pick the the guys in my squad! same goes for Batistuta and Irwin......some fantastic players through the years.... and i forgot about Seedorf altogether!! thats a sin

spiderdan

Left winger- I found it the hardest position- no one really stood out- I went for Messi as he has that bit of magic in him, we could/ probably will be talking about him being an all time great!

Anyone disagree that Zidane is by far the greatest of his generation??

invincibleirish

spiderdan wrote: »

Left winger- I found it the hardest position- no one really stood out- I went for Messi as he has that bit of magic in him, we could/ probably will be talking about him being an all time great!

Going by success then it has to be Giggs, how much has he won again? shame about the lack of a successful international career though.

Vokes

Giggs or Nedved for the left-wing maybe?

Anyone disagree that Zidane is by far the greatest of his generation??

Can't disagree with that!

Nalz

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Schmeichel

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Irwin

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Cannavaro

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Nesta

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Maldini

Figo

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Zidane

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Keane

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Ronaldinho

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Ronaldo

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Shearer

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Call Me Jimmy

Was the bergkamp against argentina goal the long ball one where he controlled it oh so sexually?

LuckyLloyd

kryogen wrote: »

Schmeichel

Cafu Desailly Cannavaro Maldini

Figo Zidane Keane Giggs

Ronaldo Rivaldo


Subs
Buffon
Thuram
Makelele
Messi
Ronaldinho
Bergkamp
RVN


Some seriously close calls for me.... i would have Romario in my 24 but i cant not pick the the guys in my squad! same goes for Batistuta and Irwin......some fantastic players through the years.... and i forgot about Seedorf altogether!! thats a sin

I struggled with the left wing position aswell. Could we throw Seedorf there? I mean, he is a winner. Or Nedved I should have gone with. Other than that, we seem to be in broad agreement. Wtf?

I think you can argue that Keane at his best had more of an upside for a football team than Zidane would have. I mean, I think Keane made bad players pull together and overperform to a much greater extent than Zidane would be able to - so you could possibly argue that if I could only have one of my best eleven it should be Keane.

LuckyLloyd

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

20 posts and no mention of Le Tissier. You all make me sick. I'm off to the pub.

Because he wasn't a "great" player and essentially wasted his career and never truly tested himself? :pac:

DerekD Goldfish

spiderdan wrote: »

Left winger- I found it the hardest position- no one really stood out- I went for Messi as he has that bit of magic in him, we could/ probably will be talking about him being an all time great!

Anyone disagree that Zidane is by far the greatest of his generation??

I never really liked Zidane im not saying he wasnt a great player just I dont think he deserves the position of undisputed greatest player of the past 15 years he has gained.
Ive done a 1st/2nd choice
Assuming 94 ability on otherwise Baresi and McGrath would have made it
Gk: Schmeichel/Buffon
DL: Maldini /Irwin
DR:Thuram/Cafu
DC:Nesta/Desailly
DC:Adams/Daragh Maguire
ML:Nedved/Overmars
Mr:Figo/Mababazi
CM: Keane/Osam
Am:Rivaldo/Boban
CF:Shevchenko/Shearer
CF:Ronaldo/Battistuta

DerekD Goldfish

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Was the bergkamp against argentina goal the long ball one where he controlled it oh so sexually?

Thats the one

Surprised so few mentions of overmars he was fantastic in the 90's

DSB

Schmeichel

Cafu
Maldini
McGrath
Cannavaro

Cristiano Ronaldo
Zidane
Vieira
Giggs

Ronaldo
Henry

Bubs101

Buffon

Zanetti
Maldini
Desailly
Cannavaro

Figo
Deschamps
Totti
Nedved

Ronaldo
Batistuta

Went for Totti ahead of Zidane because Zizou was so inconsistent in Serie A. As a Juve fan I would get so frustrated with him. Totti performs week in week out

tdv

Going for the aul wing back/sweeper formation

.............................Buffon.............................

.........Costacurta........Baresi............Maldini.....

Cafu....................................................R.Carlos
.............................Redonado......................

..............Zidane.....................Hagi...............

.................Ronaldo............Romario...............

Subs:
Ayala
Albertini
Riquelme
Serginho
Batistuta

PHB

Schmeichel

Irwin Baresi Nesta Maldini

Figo Zidane Keane Ronaldinho

Ronaldo Bergkamp

For me, Irwin has to go in there. I think Maldini has been the better LB, but imo Irwin was better than Cafu.
I think Cannavaro is somewhat overrated, i.e. still amazing but not quite up there with say Nesta or Baresi.
Keane for me has to go in there too. He was the captain of the team that dominated the premiership for almost a decade.
Figo Ronaldo and Ronaldinho (at his heights 2 years ago, he was unstoppable. That hattrick against Real Madrid was just amazing) are obvious.
Then of course there is Bergkamp, what an amazing player. Rivaldo was something special, but Bergkamp was just amazing.

Then of course there is only one captain, Zidane.

Bounty Hunter

Schmeichel

Cafu      Baresi         Maldini       R.Carlos

                      Keane 

       Figo         Zidane        Rivaldo

           Ronaldo             Weah

Subs:

Buffon
L.Matthaus
Nesta
Desailly.... think a lot of people forget how great a DM he was also
Rijkaard
Hagi
Baggio


McGrath would have made it (Paul McGrath my lord Paul McGrath) but for the post 94 part

Bubs101

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

Seaneh

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Buffon

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Cafu

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Nesta----Desailly

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Maldini


Figo

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Zidane

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Redondo

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Giggs

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Ronaldo

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Shevchenko

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Reasons;

Buffon is, IMHO the best 'keeper of all time.

Cafu, Argueably the best Brazilian captian of all time, easily the best right full of the last 20 years.

Nesta, Some will put Cannavaro ahead of them, I reckon they are insane, Nesta is as close to the perfect CB you'll ever get.

Desailly, The Rock, nick name says it all.

Maldini, Paolo is the only player currently playing who you can argue is possibly the best player of ALL TIME, his contribution to world football is immeasureable.

Figo, no other choice for right wing really...

Zidane, Anyone who argues his inclusion is, simply put, a fool.

Redondo, I'ce said it before, I'll say it again, best DM of the last 20 years, the absolute complete midfeilder, had everything and then some.

Giggs, Suprised myself when I thought of him, but really, he was the best left winger in the world from the age of 18 till about 29, and he's still not too bad...

Ronaldo, possibly the greatest finnisher of all time, easily the best striker of his generation.

Sheva, STFU, yeah he's been ****e at chelase, but he's also smashed just about every goalscoring record in club football, man is a f*cking legend.



Subs:
Schmeical (Buffon juts shades it for me).
Costacurta (Never made mistakes, EVER!).
Thuram (IMHO the Arch Typical Modern Centre back).
Albertini (The Origional Pirlo/Xavi type player).
Boban (said it before, say it again, my altime Fav player to watch, so intelligent on the ball).
Baggio (The epithomy of number 10, best "second Striker" ever).
Weah (3 time African player of the year, world player of the year, European player of the year, Serie A player of the year, Serie A top scorer, Champions league top scorer, French Championship top scorer, Serie A foreign player of the year... the list goes on).


Honurable mentions;

Keane, he was damned good, I'll admit it.

Totti, Baggio just shaded him for the bench spot.

Rivaldo, he was immense when he bothered his arse.

Cannavaro, Nesta is better and always was.

Seaneh

Bubs101 wrote: »

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

You're joking right?

Bounty Hunter

Bubs101 wrote: »

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

there are simply too many World class forwards over this time period. Larson may get in one or two peoples teams but ahead of Ronaldo, Batistuta, Baggio, Stoichkov, Rivaldo, Weah or even Van Basten he will struggle IMO. still surprised that this is the first mention he has got

PHB

Look, Van Nist and Henry have barely made peoples lists at all. Larsson has no chance and rightly so.

estebancambias

Ok mine is.

Buffon

Zambrotta Cannavaro Helguera Maldini

Redondo Keane

Messi Zidane Riquelme

Raul



*Probably not the best but meh*

kinaldo

Almost impossible to pick the best but I'd definitely have Raul and Redondo in there. Rivaldo wasn't good enough for long enough for me. And I do remember watching him at Deportivo. I think it was around 1999 that a poll in a Catalan newspaper had Barca fans voting Raul as the best player in Spain ahead of Rivaldo. I remember reading that in World Soccer Magazine at the time. He also pipped Rivaldo to the Pichichi that year (Golden Boot). In 2002 Sir Alex Ferguson was calling Raul the best player in the world. Since he burst onto the scene in 94 he's probably been the most consistent forward in Europe, much more so than Rivaldo. Perhaps if he was Brazilian he would get the credit he should be getting.

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Baresi in some people's teams?

He was playing way before the '94WC surely.

A legend no doubt, but I don't think he should be considered here tbh.

eZe^

PHB wrote: »

Ronaldinho (at his heights 2 years ago, he was unstoppable. That hattrick against Real Madrid was just amazing) are obvious..

If you're thinking of the game in the Burnacow, where Ronnie got a standing ovation, he scored two that night, Etoo scored the other. Or maybe you're thinking of Messi's hattrick last year?

My team;

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Kahn

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--Cafu

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Hierro

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Nesta

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Maldini----

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Makalele

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----Figo

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Zidane

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Guardiola

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Romario

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Ronaldo

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Guardiola is my favourite player of all time, so I had to put him in there.

There is way way way too much Madrid there for my liking, and I left out Figo and Roberto Carlos. Jaysus... Carlos is only missing because of Maldini, I was considering putting him on the right instead of Cafu.

Cant believe nobody mentioned Hierro yet, 5 La Liga's, 3 CL's and 102 goals in 439 league games. Not bad for a bloody defender.

estebancambias wrote: »

Ok mine is.

Buffon

Zambrotta Cannavaro Helguera Maldini

Redondo Keane

Messi Zidane Riquelme

Raul

Raul is **** upfront as a 9.

CCCP^

Where the **** is Terry Phelan?

PHB

A legend no doubt, but I don't think he should be considered here tbh.

I remember seeing him play when I was still like 12, so he must have went on till around 98ish?

If you're thinking of the game in the Burnacow, where Ronnie got a standing ovation, he scored two that night, Etoo scored the other. Or maybe you're thinking of Messi's hattrick last year?

No, it was the 2 goals one. Thought it was a hattrick. That's why I love some sets of football fans. It takes real lovers of the beautiful game to applaud the performance of an opponent who just ripped them to shreds.

Guy:Incognito

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

20 posts and no mention of Le Tissier. You all make me sick. I'm off to the pub.

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Beasent

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Walcott

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Benali

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Le Tiss

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Surman



Hows that for a start? I'll let you fill in the rest. After all, it's your delusion.

CCCP^ wrote: »

Where the **** is Terry Phelan?

Where he belongs.

Seaneh

Baresi retired fro international footie after the 94 world cup and from professional footie at the end of the 96/97 season, and those were easily his 3 most forgettable seasons as a Milan player. so from 94 on wards, he was not deserving of being in any of these teams, and I'm Rossonero...