Spurs sign Luka Modric

Kold

PHB wrote: »

That's just silly. They massively underperformed this year, massively. Their defence ain't great, but they've added two great defenders in Hutton and Woodgate. Another top quality CB and they'll have a real good defence.
Their strike force is actually one of the best in country.
They have very good wingers, and all they need imo is a top quality CM and they can challenge for top 4.

They also have a great manager.

QFT.

We've had some rotten luck the last couple of seasons but 2 to break top 6? That's utter ****e. Maybe two to get a CL spot. Good signing but I'd still like to see Berbs settled. Hutton, Bale, Woodgate and now Modric. Ramos is really doing a job here. He's even got Jenas performing! Our target for next season should be nothing less than 5th.

PHB

IMO Modric coming for big money means that Spurs will be selling Berbatov this summer. Bent and Keane though is a great strike force.

Kold

PHB wrote: »

IMO Modric coming for big money means that Spurs will be selling Berbatov this summer. Bent and Keane though is a great strike force.

I'm not too sure Bent remembers how to play the game.

therecklessone

KdjaCL wrote: »

Is this a Ramos signing or Commoli? if boateng comes good they could be a decent midfield. Ramos rarely signs players they were bought for him at sevilla he just made them play.

Nobody knows for sure (I'm sure the principals do ) but I think it's illuminating to look at the players signed by the club with Ramos at the helm vs Jol.

Since he arrived, we've signed Woodgate, Hutton, Gilberto, Gunter and now Modric. If Ramos isn't buying himself, he definitely has more say in who comes in than Jol had. Of course, it has to be said that Commoli wanted Ramos and so his relationship is better with the Spaniard than it ever was with Jol, so I imagine that helps.

What I've heard re. this transfer is that Levy did the donkey work, not the other two.

therecklessone

Mad_Max wrote: »

Didn't spurs' owner get some incredibly rotten amount of money wiped off his value with the bearings bank debacle. I remember hearing on ze radio that he lost billions.

Reports suggested he lost about £750m of an estimated £4bn personal fortune. Believe me, Joe Lewis does not rely on Spurs to pay the bills, the only concern he will have is the value of the assets at Spurs if he decides to sell, and with an announcement on a future stadium development in the pipeline that side of things looks healthy.

therecklessone

StickyMcGinty wrote: »

didnt i hear that last year?

adding one player to a side who are currently 11th in the EPL isnt going to change anything. their defence is woeful. imo, at least 2 more years before spurs can challenge for top six never mind top four

We finished 5th the last two seasons running, yet we're two years off braking into the top 6? Bizarre.

We've had a bad season, the timing of Jol's departure was poor and injuries have denied us two key members of our back 4 (King and Bale). If we'd bough a decent keeper to replace Robinson we'd be top 6 right now IMO.

invincibleirish

therecklessone wrote: »

We've had a bad season, the timing of Jol's departure was poor and injuries have denied us two key members of our back 4 (King and Bale). If we'd bough a decent keeper to replace Robinson we'd be top 6 right now IMO.

This talk is nonsense, you can talk about ifs and buts all you want,but Spurs are really just another Newcastle, throwing silly money around. If they had a decent keeper, had an injury free defence, had a decent DM and had a non moody Berbatov then yeah theiy might be near top 6, but Spurs are just back where they have been for all of the Premiership era - mid table.


Spurs all hype, no substance.

PHB

Would be a better description of your arguments. How did they finish 5th two seasons in a row with pretty much the exact same players as they have now?

therecklessone

PHB wrote: »

Would be a better description of your arguments. How did they finish 5th two seasons in a row with pretty much the exact same players as they have now?

QFT.

invincibleirish

PHB wrote: »

How did they finish 5th two seasons in a row with pretty much the exact same players as they have now?

Well i'll take a guess and speculate while they have the same players they had 2 seasons ago (minus Carrick) they have bought poorly. Villa, Everton, Blackburn, West Ham, Man City & Pompey have all bought better players.thats why they are above Spurs. kinda obvious when you think about it.

Kold

invincibleirish wrote: »

Well i'll take a guess and speculate while they have the same players they had 2 seasons ago (minus Carrick) they have bought poorly. Villa, Everton, Blackburn, West Ham, Man City & Pompey have all bought better players.thats why they are above Spurs. kinda obvious when you think about it.

How many of these teams have any silverware this season? Spurs were in the running for three trophies this year and got one of them. We've had a lousy season where a keeper went off the f*cking rails, our defence was makeshift and confidence was low due to boardroom trouble. We got a great manager in, we've bought fantastically this season and financially, we're pretty sound. We've secured a UEFA spot, we know we weren't going to grab 5th due to a ****ing diabolical early season. Can you honestly say that those teams are better off than we are going into the next season?

invincibleirish

Kold wrote: »

How many of these teams have any silverware this season? Spurs were in the running for three trophies this year and got one of them. We've had a lousy season where a keeper went off the f*cking rails, our defence was makeshift and confidence was low due to boardroom trouble. We got a great manager in, we've bought fantastically this season and financially, we're pretty sound. We've secured a UEFA spot, we know we weren't going to grab 5th due to a ****ing diabolical early season. Can you honestly say that those teams are better off than we are going into the next season?

Well we'll see after the summers transfer spending? there are more clubs then ever with lots of TV money to spend, much like last summer, and thats not counting the top 4 who get first pick of the best players, if any big name club in Europe were serious about signing him (Modric) then do you think he would have picked Spurs ahead of a Barca or Bayern? (or Newcastle in Premiership money terms) .

Im going to Guess Spurs, Man City, Newcastle, West Ham(if they get a new manager), Villa, Blackburn and basically all the rest of the Premiership will be scrambling for the same type of players (cast offs from the top 4 and other big Euro clubs as well as those not wanted by the top 4).

I think Euro 2008 will be the catalyst for this spending orgy with every big thing like Modric heading the Premier Leagues way so next season should be quite interesting.

Portsmouth are in the Cup Final.

Modric will be a Berbatov or a Younas Kaboul.

Helix

Melion wrote: »

If they can keep Berbatov they will be a serious threat to the top 4 next season

no they wont

not with their current defence

jank

Has anybody asked how spurs are going to afford him. By selling Berbatov i think!:cool:

therecklessone

Helix wrote: »

no they wont

not with their current defence

We need a banging your head against a brick wall smilie on boards.

Of the current back 5, only 2 will start next season.

New GK
New CB partner for Woodgate
Bale at LB in place of Chimbonda/O'Hara/Tainio

How long the two new faces take to bed in will be key.

p.s. I'm not claiming we will challenge for a CL place btw.

therecklessone

jank wrote: »

Has anybody asked how spurs are going to afford him. By selling Berbatov i think!:cool:

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, when we signed Bent...

Prufrock

Great buy. Well done Spurs.

event

dc69 wrote: »

Il admit he was very good against benfica but he doesnt do anything week in and out.

so you have seen him play week in, week out then?

Kold

Bale, Woodgate and Hutton are pretty good defenders imo.

therecklessone

Just heard from a good source that there are three bids on the table for Berbatov, all from outside the PL.

Mr Levy is determined not to do business with another English club apparently. I'm sure he can have his arm twisted for the right amount though...;)

jank

therecklessone wrote: »

Just heard from a good source that there are three bids on the table for Berbatov, all from outside the PL.

Mr Levy is determined not to do business with another English club apparently. I'm sure he can have his arm twisted for the right amount though...;)

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, when we signed Bent...

Well you really know how to dig a hole!:D

therecklessone

jank wrote: »

Well you really know how to dig a hole!:D

Was my earlier statement incorrect?

jank

Was mine?:)

therecklessone

jank wrote: »

Was mine?:)

Until he's sold then it was mere supposition...:p

I don't get this train of thought from people, questioning where Spurs have got our money from. We spent £40m last Summer without selling Berbatov, another £16m or so in the transfer window, now Modric is in for over £15m.

The club is well run, we've 12k on the ST waiting list and we're looking at a price increase of c. £100 per ST this coming season. Good deals for shirts and sponsorship, extended cup runs the last few seasons, European football...it all adds up.

Even the bad signings don't look so bad when they are sold on...:D

Kold

The thinking here is that we have to sell him. We don't have to sell him at all.

PHB

Berbatov will only go to another English club if he himself demands it. IMO it's dead cert he'll leave this year.

jank

As a matter of interest what are the finances of spurs like?

Charlie

jank wrote: »

As a matter of interest what are the finances of spurs like?

There a bleedin bunch of Jews, so what do you think?*







*This post is in no way racialist

therecklessone

jank wrote: »

As a matter of interest what are the finances of spurs like?

Turnover was £103m year ending June 2007

Profit after transfers was £19m.

Deloitte and Touche puts us at 11th in the Football Money League.

98%+ of seats full for league games, not so good with the cups this year though. Some of the most expensive tickets in the league (up to £71 to see us roll over for Newcastle...;))

I should add, I expect profit to be down this at the end of this coming financial year due to transfer dealings. Turnover should have risen.

PHB

People forget that Spurs have no trouble selling out their stadium which is 36k big and do so at much higher prices than those in the North.

That said, imo Modric being signed for that sorta cash would suggest to me Berbatov is leaving, because there's only so much you can spend, and Ramos surely knows that the money needs to be spent at the back and in central midfield.

Smegball

They would need to sign another striker then aswell most likely seeing as Defoe is gone now aswell.

Mr Alan

I wouldnt imagine so. How much has he been signed for 15 million? tis hardly massive money in this day and age.

i'd imagine buying modric is kinda one step forward, and selling berba is two steps back. Wouldnt be a good sign. the fact that modric joined Spurs over the other clubs interested would say to me he thinks they are going places. selling berba doesnt really tie in with that.

i've also heard whispers Berba aint the striker that might be on his way

therecklessone

Mr Alan wrote: »

i've also heard whispers Berba aint the striker that might be on his way

Alluding to the possibility of "there's only two Keanos"?