Stop/Go systems

Davidth88

People,

Perhaps people in the know could explain how developers/planners decide / get away with using stop/go systems on ' single digit ' inter city routes causing delays of up to 45 mins.

Why don't the planning auth/NRA insist this work is down out of hours, or a temp 2 way road system is put into place ( contraflow or similar using the hard shoulders ) .

It seems to be people being lazy or something.

I am sure I am going to be told ' oh we only do this as a last resort' , it doesn't seem like that to anyone who drives around the country thats for sure.

RadioCity

That is frustrating alright, but (as you say) what is even more frustrating is when you see stop/go on roads with a hard shoulder, but still narrow the road down to one lane, effectively from 4!
I'd say its just done as it is the easiest to set up. Clever contraflows take a bit of planning and a lot of extra cones and signage, as do alternative routes. Welcome to Ireland!

Wishbone Ash

Davidth88 wrote: »

Why don't the planning auth/NRA insist this work is down out of hours

2 simple reasons.

1. Cost - it costs a lot more to employ people at night. (Would you do night work for the same rate as day work?).

2. Noise pollution/objections from local residents. (Would you like to sleep beside an active roadworks?).

AlekSmart

Another associated concern with the entire business of Roadworks management in Èireann is the absolute reluctance of the responsible agency to liase with the Gardai or other interested bodies,for example Bus Atha Cliath/Bus Eireann.

There is a convention whereby the Civil Works Contractor outlines the area which is to be opened and proceeds to set up their exclusion zone with cones,barriers or disinterested labourers.

However,time out of time,we see NO effort on the part of the aforementioned "Authorities" to play any role in helping things along by,for example,removing stretches of on-street parking at the approaches or departure lanes from the works site.

Sunday last (27/04) saw another classic example of Dublin City Council`s disconnected disinterest policy in this regard as a roman legion of big burly builders descended on Kildare St to resurface it in preparation for the triumphal entry of the Emperor Cowenious next month.

I have absolutely no issue with the contractor here,but the City Council and Gardai remained resolutely aloof from all of this excitement and so the lines of parked Coaches and P&D Car Parking was left undisturbed along Nassau St which thus conspired to force ALL SouthBound traffic into a single lane at Sth Leinster St and boy were tempers fraying,especially as the warning signs were thin on the ground at any of the potential alternative routes leading up to the Works Site.

There is a think in place which sees us as requiring Billions of Euro and masses of Computers to make any improvements to our infrastructural networks.
However,just as with the fabled and much maligned 1932 Road Transport Act,its a paucity of Administrators with INTEREST in their jobs that is the real problem.

One single interested engineer backed up by a senior Garda with a little jizz would have been able to make a serious inroad into the chaos which engulfed Nassau St and which will doubtless occur again and again.

As it was,the first Garda presence I came across was at 14.40 when a Transit van came trundling around disgorging a few members who then proceeded to head off in the opposite direction on their beat......An Irish Solution to an Irish Problem..???