2008 Forbes List - 25 Most Valueable Teams

DubDani

Forbes has released the 2008 List of the 25 most valuabale Football Clubs:

1 Manchester United 1.800m USD
2 Real Madrid 1.285m USD
3 Arsenal 1.200m USD
4 Liverpool 1.050m USD
5 Bayern Munich 917m USD
7 Barcelona 784m USD
8 Chelsea 764m USD
9 Juventus 510m USD
10 Schalke 04 470m USD
11 AS Roma 434m USD
12 Tottenham Hotspur 414m USD
13 Olympique Lyonnais 408m USD
14 Inter Milan 403m USD
15 Borussia Dortmund 323m USD
16 Newcastle United 300m USD
17 Hamburg SV 293m USD
18 Werder Bremen 262m USD
19 Valencia 254m USD
20 Celtic 227m USD
21 Everton 197m USD
22 West Ham United 195m USD
23 Manchester City 191m USD
24 Aston Villa 190m USD
25 Olympique Marseille 187m USD

Quite intresting that Valencia have a 159% Debt/Value rate. Any normal company would be bancrupt. How do they manage to stay afloat?

http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/04/30/premier-league-branding-biz-soccer08-cx_pm_0430eplbrand.html

OhNoYouDidn't

DubDani wrote: »

Quite intresting that Valencia have a 159% Debt/Value rate. Any normal company would be bancrupt. How do they manage to stay afloat?



In the process of building the most fantastic stadium. Only club on the list building, so an expensive time.

Xavi6

Ha we managed to sneak in there!

delija_sever029

DubDani wrote: »

1 Manchester United

Oh yeah,feel the power:D

Bubs101

Some surprising ommisions. Would have thought that AC would have been there, Stutgart have been around the top of the German league for a while now and the ommission of all the dutch and portuguese clubs yet the inclusion of Celtic.

Just out of interest how is the valuation reached. The assets of certain clubs would be worth more than their valuations (e.g. Man City's stadium and players would be worth more than the total shown)

El Weirdo

Bubs101 wrote: »

Some surprising ommisions. Would have thought that AC would have been there, Stutgart have been around the top of the German league for a while now and the ommission of all the dutch and portuguese clubs yet the inclusion of Celtic.

Just out of interest how is the valuation reached. The assets of certain clubs would be worth more than their valuations (e.g. Man City's stadium and players would be worth more than the total shown)

Do the club own the stadium though? Or is it leased off of Manchester City Council?

Bubs101

I'm not sure, anyway it was just an example. The same would probably apply to Villa. So much land in a residential area of Birmingham

Xavi6

el_weirdo wrote: »

Do the club own the stadium though? Or is it leased off of Manchester City Council?

No we don't own the land or the stadium. It's leased from the council.

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That's why it is affectionatley known as "The Council House" :pac:

redspider

Maybe a copy and paste error as it should be:

6 AC Milan 798m

Mitch Connor

DesF wrote: »

That's why it is affectionatley known as "The Council House" :pac:

or COMedy Club

Charlie

TBH, these lists mean fack all to me. Look at Liverpool. Everyone knows that they are leveraged up to the hilt, and are going to have to start pumping oodles more cash to get this stadium built. Whereas the likes of Chelsea, Newcastle, Man City and Villa are all debt free, and have owners with a fair few quid in their back pocket. I wouldn't treat this list as being any sort of indication as to who has the spending muscle.

ciaran76

The table in here gives a better picture I feel.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/34/biz_soccer08_Soccer-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

Xavi6

DesF wrote: »

That's why it is affectionatley known as "The Council House" :pac:

Never heard it called that

Tauren wrote: »

or COMedy Club

I'd say it was hilarious when you lost there alright.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

Never heard it called that



I'd say it was hilarious when you lost there alright.

Dunno what you are talking about, never lost there. 100% record. practicaly won the league there last year. crazy talk from ya, crazy crazy crazy.

Xavi6

Tauren wrote: »

Dunno what you are talking about, never lost there. 100% record. practicaly won the league there last year. crazy talk from ya, crazy crazy crazy.

Really? Didn't hear too many laughs coming from the red corner of the ground back in August.

jank

Interesting. Surprsied to see liverpool in there. Their high level of debt will go up even more if the new stadium goes ahead, unless DIC buy them.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

Really? Didn't hear too many laughs coming from the red corner of the ground back in August.

August - awesome 7-2 win for United. Saha and Fletcher getting hattricks and O'Shea adding the 7th. good times.

OhNoYouDidn't

Bubs101 wrote: »

and the ommission of all the dutch and portuguese clubs yet the inclusion of Celtic.

How many Dutch or Portugese clubs have Celtics merchandising operation, pay-per-view deals, 57,000 season ticket holders, guaranteed CL football and billionaire owner underwriting their debt?

Mitch Connor

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

How many Dutch or Portugese clubs have Celtics merchandising operation, pay-per-view deals, 57,000 season ticket holders, guaranteed CL football and billionaire owner underwriting their debt?

4?

Xavi6

Tauren wrote: »

August - awesome 7-2 win for United. Saha and Fletcher getting hattricks and O'Shea adding the 7th. good times.

Hmmm pity the facts show different.

As for that 100% record you spoke of having there, it's actually 40%.

Mitch Connor

40% of the time, we win every time

Xavi6

Tauren wrote: »

40% of the time, we win every time

Okaaaaaaaaaay. Anyway........

jesus_thats_gre

jank wrote: »

Interesting. Surprsied to see liverpool in there. Their high level of debt will go up even more if the new stadium goes ahead, unless DIC buy them.

What makes the inclusion of Liverpool surprising?

Bubs101

PSV virtually have guaranteed Champions' League football with the added benefit of a highler level of success in the tornament.Keep in mind that Scotland have only had two places for a couple of years so it's not as if Celtic have relied on CL income throughout their history. Ajax have one of the best youth setups in the world meaning they get alot in transfer fees without spending that much. I would have thought that their success in the 90s would have meant a bigger merchandising operation than Celtic's (obviously Ireland is hardly an unbias example) and a noteriety that they couldn't match. Also, Holland is a very very rich country compared to Scotland meaning they can probably charge more at the gate (although Holland could employ the German "cheap ticket" system).

Porto, Benfica both have a much better european history than Celtic meaning they too are probably better known around the world (considering Porto's recent success that's a given for them) giving them more merchandising potential (Adu playing for Benfica gives them a big market as well). They also sell players at a greater value then Celtic and can buy Brazilian players on the cheap and in their droves not to mention that (this season maybe looking like an exception) the big 3 always are guaranteed CL football.

jank

Sorry i ment to say so high up.
4th ahead of Munich, AC, Juve, Barca is a surprise but these lists come out all the time and they are always different.

PHB

It's shocking that 4 years ago both United and Liverpool had no debt, and now they both have debt/value ratios of 60% which were solely due to takeover costs. I still can't believe the British government let them away with this, shocking state of affairs

Daemonic

PHB wrote: »

It's shocking that 4 years ago both United and Liverpool had no debt, and now they both have debt/value ratios of 60% which were solely due to takeover costs. I still can't believe the British government let them away with this, shocking state of affairs

Not much they could do really. United were a plc so market conditions apply and Liverpool's owner, given a punt on a 2 horse race select the 2-legged American donkey instead of the Dubai thoroughbred