How long does it take to get your membership card when you join the IAA?

BFSL

I had a customer in the shop today who had an aeg confiscated by the Gards, he said he told the gards that he wanted to use the gun to skirmish, but because he could not prove any of this to the garda, he lost the gun, now he has the gun back so I told him to join the IAA and get a membership, but then another customer heard this and said he would be wasting his time because he has been waiting for his membership number for months and still has not got one, can anyone tell me if this is the norm or just a one off?
Because I am not telling people to join if they get nothing from it.

Stercus Accidit

AFAIK no-one has cards yet, but its in the works last time I heard about it.

So yeah, seems to be the norm for now.

Its strange because we don't actually have to prove we are scirmishers here at all to have aegs as long as they aren't misused, so I dunno if we need cards yet, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt.

defenderdude

Once members shell out fees for the year (due from today afaik) membership cards should be issued - but the funds are needed first - unless someone wanted to sponsor/subsidise the costs of production...;)

Without peeps joining and paying up it's going to be very difficult:(

The Master

Question for the IAA forums tbh

Hivemind187

I agree with Robster.

A more pertinent question though was "what was the customer doing to attract the attention of the Gardai and cause them to confiscate the device?" As far as I recall we still have a few rights in this country and the freedom from coppers coming into your premises (or entering your car) and confiscating your property without justifiable cause is still one of them.

If someone wants there membership number they can send an email and ask for it. Defenderdude gave the rest of the answer.

defenderdude

Forgot to say, we get aknowledgement letters confirming membership and number - this would be just as useful; if not more so that a card.

I carry it in the car just in case...:)

Hivemind187

defenderdude wrote: »

Forgot to say, we get aknowledgement letters confirming membership and number - this would be just a useful; if not more so that a card.

I carry it in the car just in case...:)

Yeah, we did that for the first batch but it turned out to be really expensive. Between postal charges, printing, stationary etc it just wasnt feasible. So we focussed on the cards getting sorted.

Agaiin, any reasonable questions about this matter can be directed to info@irishairsoft.ie

Thanks folks!

BFSL

defenderdude wrote: »

Once members shell out fees for the year (due from today afaik) membership cards should be issued - but the funds are needed first - unless someone wanted to sponsor/subsidise the costs of production...;)

Without peeps joining and paying up it's going to be very difficult:(

I understand were your coming from in relation to cards, but it should be automatic to issue a number, and as for what this guy was doing to lose his gun, nothing is the answer and that's why he got it back, he was stopped for no reason, as was I last week, and his car was searched, the gun was in the boot, and lets be honest the Gardai don't ask for permission to search cars in this country whether it is right or wrong

Gyle

i paid my fees and got a five digit membership number can't wait for the cards to help when travelling. everyone should request their number and that should cover them as some sort of proof of being a legit airsofter

BFSL

Gyle wrote: »

i paid my fees and got a five digit membership number can't wait for the cards to help when travelling. everyone should request their number and that should cover them as some sort of proof of being a legit airsofter

My point exactly!

Miscreant

Gyle wrote: »

i paid my fees and got a five digit membership number.

Paid my fees back in March and got no membership number. I don't think that the same rule is being applied across the board.
I will be requesting my number though but it should be sent to you in a printed letter.

BFSL

Hivemind187 wrote: »

Yeah, we did that for the first batch but it turned out to be really expensive. Between postal charges, printing, stationary etc it just wasnt feasible. So we focussed on the cards getting sorted.

Agaiin, any reasonable questions about this matter can be directed to info@irishairsoft.ie

Thanks folks!

Surely it would be easy to send the number and confirmation by email or even PM to those that use the board, it will cost nothing to do that.

BFSL

Miscreant wrote: »

Paid my fees back in March and got no membership number. I don't think that the same rule is being applied across the board.
I will be requesting my number though but it should be sent to you in a printed letter.

an email should do, there is nothing to hide in a membership number, but you are entitled to one

gerrowadat

Hivemind187 wrote: »

Yeah, we did that for the first batch but it turned out to be really expensive. Between postal charges, printing, stationary etc it just wasnt feasible. So we focussed on the cards getting sorted.

Easy enough to do a form letter, even a PDF or whatever costs nothing if you email it out. I'd love something to just leave in the gun case. This is the main reason I'd join, surprised to see it's not being done.

BFSL

gerrowadat wrote: »

Easy enough to do a form letter, even a PDF or whatever costs nothing if you email it out. I'd love something to just leave in the gun case. This is the main reason I'd join, surprised to see it's not being done.

Funny enough, I would say more people would join if they saw some sort of membership doc, just to prove they are buying airsoft products for a valid reason.

Dr_Pepper

Ive copied the basics of your points and sent em to info@irishairsoft.ie
It has been said by the mods a number of times but the IAA have forums for this.

Just a note on the emails.
Not all signups supplied an email address.
Not all emails get received.

Plus id rather have a card with my name on it than a printout.
The first batch of cards will be done once enough funds have been paid.
Its a non issue as it will be sorted soon enough.

BFSL

Dr_Pepper wrote: »

Ive copied the basics of your points and sent em to info@irishairsoft.ie
It has been said by the mods a number of times but the IAA have forums for this.

Just a note on the emails.
Not all signups supplied an email address.
Not all emails get received.

Plus id rather have a card with my name on it than a printout.
The first batch of cards will be done once enough funds have been paid.
Its a non issue as it will be sorted soon enough.

But if you dont get any more members how are you going to get funds?, and does that mean that those that have paid have to do without?, that doesnt seem very fair

CrazyRabbit

I'd be willing to offer a loan to the IAA if it helped them get membership cards printed sooner. Any idea on total costs involved?

I joined a while ago, and all I have to show for it is a receipt for payment...no membership number or confirmation email/letter.

Miscreant

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I'd be willing to offer a loan to the IAA if it helped them get membership cards printed sooner. Any idea on total costs involved?

A laminator for business cards, some actual cards, acetates and a printer would not cost too much I am sure. I have seen laminators for about €30 and printers for a little more. You could even laminate standard A4 paper cut into business card sizes which would be cheaper than actually buying cards (you would get at least 10 business card sized cut outs from an A4 sheet).
I would imagine that this should all cost little more than €100 not including postage which equates to 4 membership subs.
Just my two cents

JohnReisman

A card like that wouldnt last 3 weeks in my wallet. MAybe the IAA are trying for something a bit more professional and sturdy

Dr_Pepper

The cards will be proper plastic cards like my vhi one.
Not cardboard or paper.

TBH the membership fees being payed will be enough.
However those who don't pay will not have membership from May 2008 - 2009.
Those who do will have their membership renewed and a card issued.

kdouglas

I was going to lock this, but I will leave it for now.

However, I will say one thing, there are far too many occasions on this forum where any thread which even mentions the IAA turns into a trolling/flame fest, any posters here which are seen to be doing so or intentionally going off topic will be receiving bans. The IAA have a forum and direct methods of communication for any comments, but I will leave this thread open for anyone who has any genuine questions about their membership application.

Masada

little buda wrote: »

forgive me if i seem rude, but i cant see how a small thing like this could be so hard. wallet sized biz cards are easy to make!

1)buy a lamanater in argos realy cheep.
2)print just a reg number + some sort off iaa pic on paper
(each members name responds to different reg number) keep this on file @iaa
3)people can collect at skirmish or send u a stamped self addressed envlope

surely i think this can be acomplished as the cost for start up is minamal+refill packs are also quite cheap

its just that little bit of time you need to put in lamanating
as you can have a stockpile pre-made eg. member 1.2..3...4....etc
so when they reg with you, allocate the next number. email them, tell them its ready

what would this cost to do €50 €100 not even + p&p will be covered
as for collection most of us skirmish at the same sites

That has already been covered though, the cards are going to be proper plastic ones., laminated stuff wont last very long and would be a waste of time.,


can someone enlighten me as to the paypal adrress for sending my few bob? I saw it recently but cant remember where,.

I.A.S. Ltd.

Tbh wouldnt just a printed off and laminated card be easy to fake?

little buda

I.A.S. Ltd. wrote: »

Tbh wouldnt just a printed off and laminated card be easy to fake?

but it wont be regastered at the iaa, so if the gardi call the iaa to check they'll be found out

little buda

if the plastic ones have names on them ,if they get taken whos to say im not little buda i could pretent to be vtec if its just numbers they have to actully guess the name

Masada

little buda wrote: »

if the plastic ones have names on them ,if they get taken whos to say im not little buda i could pretent to be vtec if its just numbers they have to actully guess the name

there not a form of identification though, there only for proof of membership., if they find your driving licence on you then you cant really claim to be me when my name is on the card, not to mention, if you gave my name they'd probably give ya more sh*t than if you had given your own in the begining.,lol.,:D

AirsoftEire.com

I'd just like to add that although everyone is entitled to own an airsoft gun whether they are a member of the IAA or not, a membership card shouldn't be used as a get out of jail card. The IAA should make it clear so that members don't think that as long as members have cards, they can carry their airsoft guns where they like as long as they are in a case/bag. Whereas this is technically the case, membership cards should not be used so that members can permanently store airsoft guns in their boots or carry them in bags on the street.

You are asking for trouble if you carry airsoft guns like this, if you are doing anything other than travelling to or from a skirmish. Flashing an IAA card will and should have little or no effect if you are doing anything other than the aforementioned.

Do any of the other retailers have membership numbers? I would have thought that would have been top of the list.

Liam

Alvin T. Grey

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

Do any of the other retailers have membership numbers? I would have thought that would have been top of the list.

At the risk of sounding like a plank....MIA do. My number is 1757.....

So what was the point?

AirsoftEire.com

We recieved no such number at any stage since November.

Harekin

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

At the risk of sounding like a plank....MIA do. My number is 1757.....

So what was the point?

MIA aint even an affiliate of the IAA so I dont think they have a membership number for some reason.

bullets

I paid my Money via paypal on Feb 8th but have not
heard a thing since. No acknowledgment that it was received,
No membership number or Card.

I am presuming all is ok.

~B

gandalf

Hmmm I got my membership pack.

It contained

My membership card
Hiveminds book - Scrotal care in the field
Naked signed pics of the committee
A roll of IAA endorsed Duct tape
A bag of yellow .12g bb's

Dr_Pepper

Let me just clarify a few points.

1. All membership prior to 01st May 2008 was free.
2. All these members were given numbers on our list.
These will be displayed on your cards.
3. Membership cards will be issued at the end of this month to those who have paid.
4. The Card is not a "Get out of Jail Free" card.
Anyone found breaking the Players Code of Conduct and using this as a waiver will be sadly mistaken.
5. MIA are not an affiliate.
6. The paypal account is treasurer@irishairsoft.ie

And yes we have our own forums for asking these questions.

Alvin T. Grey

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

We recieved no such number at any stage since November.

Harekin wrote: »

MIA aint even an affiliate of the IAA so I dont think they have a membership number for some reason.

I read it incorrectly. MIA give out membership numbers. - Hence my questioning of your point.....

Masada

Jusy sent my payment there., I'll take either a membership card or a packet of fox's cookies, whatever has a shorter waiting list.,

Spetzcong

Dr_Pepper wrote: »

Let me just clarify a few points.

1. All membership prior to 01st May 2008 was free.
2. All these members were given numbers on our list.
These will be displayed on your cards.
3. Membership cards will be issued at the end of this month to those who have paid.
4. The Card is not a "Get out of Jail Free" card.
Anyone found breaking the Players Code of Conduct and using this as a waiver will be sadly mistaken.
5. MIA are not an affiliate.
6. The paypal account is treasurer@irishairsoft.ie

And yes we have our own forums for asking these questions.

Was thinking of asking this on the IAA forum but seeing as we're discussing this here, I signed up before May 2008, but I've still yet to pay my fees (slacker I know but my credit card is almost permanantly maxed out and I keep forgetting to give the cash to a committee member when I see them). Does the fact that I signed up when it was free mean that I will still get a card or do I need to pony up the moolah first?

Either way I intend to pay for my membership. It's a cause I feel like supporting,

AirsoftEire.com

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

I read it incorrectly. MIA give out membership numbers. - Hence my questioning of your point.....

My point was that surely of all the people who are IAA members, IAA affiliates should have no doubts as to what their membership number is. Up until now, we had no clue what it was or that we even had one. Could you PM us our number please Dr Pepper?
Thanks.

Steve

Gizmodeon

Not only has not all the proper details been supplied,
there has to be a certain amount correct before sending them off, the same case applied for nonex doing his HRTA cards.

and secondly if you wanna give out to someone
give out to me
I've been designing the things, and there has been delays in the process

CrazyRabbit

Dr_Pepper wrote: »

Let me just clarify a few points.

1. All membership prior to 01st May 2008 was free.
2. All these members were given numbers on our list.
These will be displayed on your cards.
3. Membership cards will be issued at the end of this month to those who have paid.
4. The Card is not a "Get out of Jail Free" card.
Anyone found breaking the Players Code of Conduct and using this as a waiver will be sadly mistaken.
5. MIA are not an affiliate.
6. The paypal account is treasurer@irishairsoft.ie

And yes we have our own forums for asking these questions.

"2. All these members were given numbers on our list. "

This is not the case I'm afraid. I have not recieved a membership number.

Can you clarify what the official process flow is?
eg.
1. Submit form
2. Form reviewed and accepted/rejected.
3. Membership number assigned and given to member via letter/email or verbally.
4. Payment must be recieved by date xxxxx
5. Membership cards to be issued by date xxxx.

Also, does all membership start/expire in May? What about new members who join in say, July? I assume their members ship will last until the following July

Spetzcong

I'm a little unclear on this myself but I think what Dr. Pepper is saying is that members who registered before May '08 were given numbers on the IAA's list, I certainly registered but never received any number, I'm not sure that the IAA have gotten around to informing everyone of their numbers yet, especially in cases like mine where no payment has been received to date.

Dr_Pepper

Dr_Pepper wrote: »

2. All these members were given numbers on our list.
These will be displayed on your cards.

I.e all those who signed up have a membership number, which has not been sent to people. It is on our list fellas no need to fret.
Once you have paid the fees your membership gets renewed and the number is valid again. Again as i said these will be on your cards.

Miscreant

Numbers may have been assigned on the IAA's list but I have been a member since around September last year and never received a member number. Think I may have spotted it on the Member list at the AGM and EGM but for the life of me I can't remember it.
Not really sure what all the brew ha ha is about though. Membership subs were only required from yesterday so anyone expecting their membership card or such needs to give a little more time than just 1 day....
Would still be nice to get an e-mail with the number when you apply though.

Dr_Pepper

Again to clarify because i seem to be repeating myself.

When people have paid their subscription they will receive their membership number. It will come in the form of an ID card.
These will be purchased in bulk at the end of the month when enough people have paid. These people will receive these in June.

Judge dredd

Dr_Pepper wrote: »

Again to clarify because i seem to be repeating myself.

When people have paid their subscription they will receive their membership number. It will come in the form of an ID card.
These will be purchased in bulk at the end of the month when enough people have paid. These people will receive these in June.

Sorry Dr Pepper but i think what the problem (at least in my case)is that they have sent off their application and heard nothing since.in my case i've sent it off twice as the first one never reached it destination and the last one was sent by registered post.i've been in contact through the IAA site to confirm that it has been received but have heard nothing back.no offence but i dont want to be sending payment for an application that might not have been received.(deep breath)Thank you.

Dr_Pepper

Judge dredd wrote: »

i've been in contact through the IAA site to confirm that it has been received but have heard nothing back.

Can you point me to this so i can find the person responsible for not getting back to ya? Thanks!

Judge dredd

i e-mailed through the info mail address. i've the membership payment ready to send but just want to be sure first.thanks Dr Pepper.

iceage

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

At the risk of sounding like a plank....MIA do. My number is 1757.....

So what was the point?

WOW! my number is 00018.....how many members are there now?

Must renew, although my membership said from Oct 07 till Sept.08....will renew anywhy (Iceage breaks into Airsoft/cider/Airsoft ktty)

grstarkey78

i sent mine in and heared sweet **** all so far what is up with that is it so difficalt to just send an email as you have our mail addresses. as i stand at the mo i know nothing whats going on if i was back home people would asume that the iaa did not exsised.
ps excuse the spelling as i have a problem with it
thanks

Alvin T. Grey

iceage wrote: »

WOW! my number is 00018.....how many members are there now?

Must renew, although my membership said from Oct 07 till Sept.08....will renew anywhy (Iceage breaks into Airsoft/cider/Airsoft ktty)

That's MIA's card number. Not the IAAs.
You fell into the same trap I did.

B*stard dyslexia.....

Boston

Hey
Am I right in thinking that if I don't get in payment for membership soon I won't be able to join later, or more to the point, get a card later?

Also, I've no idea what my number is, and this thread has reminded we I need to resubmit a part of the forum (sorry for forgetting ronan).

PS, everything time I read some thing starting with "It should be a simple case of..." I kill a kitten.