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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    That could well be a valid point, but when it comes to making a decision social conditioning must be taken into consideration, no? Thus the outcome is the same is it not?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If all other options are missing then physical beauty will win out. Add in other attraction triggers and that skews it. So a plain guy with more money will trump a better looking guy with less on a very basic level.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    From a simplified POV aiming for someone of a similar reproductive partner value as yourself is the best way to ensure your genetic material continues:
    1. Aiming too high means you waste time chasing the unobtainable, this diminishes your time to procreate and raise kids with a more suitable partner.
    2. Aiming lower reduces the likely reproductive partner value of the resulting offspring, reducing their available choice of partners (those higher up can if they want pick from lower down with little fear of rejection, it is just that they are unlikely to want to) and so their odds of in turn procreating.

    As such by aiming for those around the same value as yourself you maximise the odds of a successful pairing while also maximising the potential reproductive value of the resulting offspring.

    Supposedly males are more likely to try aim slightly above their own weight (in terms of class not actual weight!) in terms of dating though (often a case of them overestimating their own attractiveness), not quite sure what the evolutionary/instinctual reasoning for it is though.


    taconnol wrote: »
    Lesson: if you're told something often enough you start to believe it. That's why generalisations and cliches, like the one you mentioned, are hard to remove.
    And why so many women still like to believe in the pay gap in spite of all the evidence that there is equal pay for the same job, women are just not chosing the same jobs as men.





    :rolleyes: *just wanted to use this as it's new and I think it looks cute, like it's looking at whatever's above it and feeling somehow happy about it*


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    farohar wrote: »
    From a simplified POV aiming for someone of a similar reproductive partner value as yourself is the best way to ensure your genetic material continues:
    Pretty much

    Supposedly males are more likely to try aim slightly above their own weight (in terms of class not actual weight!) in terms of dating though (often a case of them overestimating their own attractiveness), not quite sure what the evolutionary/instinctual reasoning for it is though.
    Oh women do that too if my experience is anything to go by.

    I reckon men may do it simply because they do have more mobility in their weight class. They can earn a higher status, so aiming high shows that they are ambitious and won't settle for less. Confidence basically. There are many more plain men with good looking women than the other way around, even taking status out of it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    farohar wrote: »
    And why so many women still like to believe in the pay gap in spite of all the evidence that there is equal pay for the same job, women are just not chosing the same jobs as men.

    Farohar, are you trying to open an old can of worms? I thought we went through this whole thing before..


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