Missing murder suspect can details be broadcasted on TV in Ireland

Spitzy

Hello.
I am trying to find out if the photo, name and description of a murder suspect who is on the run can be broadcasted in the media in Ireland, specifically on the TV, Crimecall etc. I have been told that RTE would not entertain the idea because of litigation, just wondering if this is correct.

Cheers Spitzy

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Tom Young

No that would be incorrect only on the basis of correct procedure would such activity take place. The DPP etc. would have had to have taken the action and the alleged accused would have had to have fled.

In relation to RTE etc. Yes, there are valid issues in undertaking broadcast in such matters, particularly as you are presumed innocent under the Irish law.

Tom

Spitzy

So in short if the DPP decides not to make the details public, the suspect would remain at large as long as he stays away from the attention of the police as the public would not know he was wanted. Particularly galling if the suspect had features that were easily recognisable.

Cheers Spitzy

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Sully

Why the facebook link?

Spitzy

If you don't like it just ignore it

Our man in Havana

It don't work that way.

johnnyskeleton

They usually say "The gardai are looking for [a person] who may be able to assist them in their enquiries".

Spitzy

I did think there should be some wording which would not actually declare that the suspect was guilty. So it is possible for the police to do this? Just a case of getting them to agree to do it I guess.

Spitzy

Our man in Havana

I think that such a statement may prejudice the right to a fair trial by contaminating the jury pool.

Spitzy

Bond-007 wrote: »

I think that such a statement may prejudice the right to a fair trial by contaminating the jury pool.

Perish the thought.
In the case I am referring to I guess we will have to wait for the suspect to murder someone else, hopefully in a country where the police are not afraid to do anything in case of being sued:mad: And where the victims and their families have at least equal rights to the murderers.
Thanks all for your replies
Spitzy

hullaballoo

I'm too tired and/or drunk to figure out what this thread is about but there's no need to link facebook profiles in this forum and I have the wherewithall to identify that much at least.

I won't issue a second warning on this.

pirelli

Spitzy wrote: »

Hello.
I am trying to find out if the photo, name and description of a murder suspect who is on the run can be broadcasted in the media in Ireland, specifically on the TV, Crimecall etc. I have been told that RTE would not entertain the idea because of litigation, just wondering if this is correct.

Cheers Spitzy

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I read up on your article and I am sorry that you have to do so much of this on your own. There should not be this hardship for getting justice. It seem's the crime scene was compromised and because of this the gardai have expressed concerns with getting the suspect extradited. I think the gardai should have racked their brains and figured out how to organise a warrant or bench warrant. Perhaps somehow getting a witness suphoena issued and then getting a bench warrant. It's not rocket science, and the manner in which this person has absconded by faking their sucicide after such a crime makes it more feasible to get such a warrant.

In any event a person has several possibilities. A person could wait 7 years until the individual is declared legally deceased, and then launch a public campaign, as their is no defamation laws after a person is dead.

One could launch a campaign and treat this person as a missing person ( wanted in connection with something). If you want to find someone your entitled to try by any means. I would class this person as MISSING. You could try get the gardai to put the photo in the MISSING section. This gives you coverage and then you can publish the photo.

Crimeline should not have any problem in announcing this person as missing considering the circumstances. Many person -while not in such suspicious and nefarious circumstances -have had belongings found at cliff faces and have never been heard of again. These people have Missing photos everywhere.

The excuses that the crime scene was comprimised or the fact that this person has faked their suicide is no excuse for letting an injustice or crime against your sister be overlooked. Condolences for your loss, although it is up to the gradai and interpol to also find a solution. You have probably already written to a TD or it's possible they expresed their condolences. Some political pressure is needed and there is no excuse for failing to investigate a crime because of some mubo jumbo about a comprimised crime scene.

If it was arson the invidual comprimised the crime scene. Can the gardai not seek the person for questioning. Is that not a good platfrom to launch a missing persons hunt.


Best of luck.

hullaballú wrote: »

I'm too tired and/or drunk to figure out what this thread is about.

Dont drink and moderate in a public forum.

Spitzy

Many thanks for your reply pirelli. I will run this past the police and see what they say, I don't hold out much hope though. It seems that they just want to sit back and wait for him to appear! There is a new superintendent at the station which is investigating the crime the 4th since the murder 3 years ago! I went to see him on my last visit to ireland on the 8th of May this year, he seems to be a bit more on the ball. We had given the last super some important information which needed looking into a year ago but nothing had been done at all, this one has rung me to let me know that he is actively looking into the information we have given him so it's an improvment at least. I think he knows I will not let up and will visit him every year on the anniversary of the murder to keep the pressure on. He also knows that I am spreading the work about the suspect via the net off my own back.
Thanks again
Spitzy