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objection advise on a dwelling in back garden

  • 05-05-2008 12:42am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    Hi there

    I have a question. 2 months ago my neighbours approached me and told me they were building a small structure in the bottom of their garden for the son to live in. They informed me that they could build a shed 40 sm under exempted development but even though against building regs the son would be living there. I told them i wasn't happy about this and found out 40sm when dwelling not attached to house was against planning regs.

    They went ahead and put foundations down and I got on to enforcement dep who went out and told them they needed pp for this shed
    Obviously enforcenet officer didn't know this was the begining of a dwelling for the son to live in
    They have now put in for pp for a shed and leisure room .It will overlook my back garden and invade my privacy. The structure will be 31.4 sm and it wil be 13 feet high including the apex roof,they already have a large sun room approx 40sm on the back of the house so I feel not only will this invade my privicy but it will be an eyesore as I will be looking into a concrete jungle. I have also been told by an estate agent that it could also leave me with a problem of selling my house. I am also afraid given that they already have foundations laid for a structure 40sm that if they get pp they will just go build the 40sm structure even though they put in for pp for 31.4 sm I was wondering if in my objection letter i can inform the planning officer of this information and will they take this on board. Any ideas on what I should do or what to put in objection letter.
    Kind Regards


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should inform the council that you believe that the building will be used as a dwelling by their son for starters as they have put in plans for a "leisure room". It may also be worth finding out what the councils policy is on "backland developments" is.

    You need to act fairly quickly as there is a deadline for objections, it's displayed on the planning notice, usually five weeks after the application is submitted.

    They're already on the councils radar as you informed them about the unauthorised development, chances are this development is more likely to be inspected during & after construction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    dont diy this

    get professional help

    ask nicely at the planning desk for a pointer as to who you might approach ( i.e. they may let you know who has "a rep" for making objections ) . or if sympatethic , enforcement may do this . they CANNOT formally help you , bear that in mind

    or trawl through online applications of your LA and see if that way you cannot locate someone to help

    IF time is of the essence and for whatever reason you can't find help in time -
    Send in the best "objection" letter ( + €20 ) anyway - reason , if you don't do this you won't be able to appeal to an bord pleanala later

    If the council decide to grant permission - you will have 28 days to appeal - definatly get help for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The issue about the son living in the shed is not against planning regs. It is against planning regulation for exempt development. There is a difference,

    As for being over looked, are you sure, this is a single story building, what sort of garden wall is there?

    Bare in mind, if you do object then anything you put in the letter is public, completely. I have seen who wre unaware of this mare some comments they later regreted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭davidoco


    ............I am also afraid given that they already have foundations laid for a structure 40sm that if they get pp they will just go build the 40sm structure even though they put in for pp for 31.4 sm I was wondering if in my objection letter i can inform the planning officer of this information and will they take this on board...........

    Innocent until proven guilty. You run the risk of really antagonising your neighbours, if you suggest in one of your objection points, that they are in some way dishonourable and would proceed with the unauthorised aspects of the building once permission has been granted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Annie Apple1


    Well is it not against planning regs if they put in for pp for a shed and Leisure room when really he pans to live in itas They have told me that he will indeed be living in it. It's wrong what they are doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Well is it not against planning regs if they put in for pp for a shed and Leisure room when really he pans to live in itas They have told me that he will indeed be living in it. It's wrong what they are doing.
    Nobody said it wasn't wrong, I was simply correct the way in which you phrased it in the OP, as a layperson may take you up wrong.

    edit, also, how do you know that the foundations built are for 40m.sq and not 31m.sq?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    PS - you only have 5 weeks to lodge your comments - from the date the application is made . Let that pass ..... you have no opportunity to say anything formally


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