asian women

anthony4335

I also like asian women , this is a preference not a generalization. It is like some lads like black women ,redheads ,blondes etc. So of course not all Asian momen are good looking ,as not all black women redhead and blondes are good looking. As for the chinaman thing, that is just stupid not a PC issue we are Irish , people from China are referred to as Chinese ,excuse the spelling.

Naos

Thirdfox wrote: »

Keeping in mind this is AH, it isn't PC to call people of a Chinese origin "Chinaman"/"Chinamen" - just like you wouldn't call an African "negro" even though it is technically a correct usage of the term (or perhaps you would.)

Even though the word itself may seem innocuous, its usage throughout history has been in a derogatory fashion and hence the reluctance for people to use it nowadays (it is presumed you want to use it in a derogatory fashion). Couple that with the fact that it is easier to just say Chinese I don't know of any reason (except for force of habit) to continue using the term, just like some old people and "negro" or "n***er" etc.

I think chinaman and n***er are a bit different to be honest. Scotsman, Englishman, Irishman, Chinaman, whats the problem? If I wanted to use a derogatory term for a chinese person, I'd call them a ch**k.

Cunny-Funt

I think an attractive woman is an attractive woman regardless of her ethnicity.


<_<


>_>


What?

Faith

In my experience, Asian women are gorgeous. I've quite a few Asian friends and they're all really pretty. They have great colouring. And they never get skin cancer, which is a bonus for them!

Zico

Some Asian women aren't women at all.

..so I've heard...


...from other people.

Cheeky_gal

I'd agree with the "full on asians" comment....[shivers]

I bet this is more his taste... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfbr6u27d-g

Overheal

Faith wrote: »

In my experience, Asian women are gorgeous. I've quite a few Asian friends and they're all really pretty. They have great colouring. And they never get skin cancer, which is a bonus for them!

yea but germans get +2 to their fortitude save and an extra feat at every 4th level.

Cant beat that.

chopperbyrne

Overheal wrote: »

yea but germans get +2 to their fortitude save and an extra feat at every 4th level.

Cant beat that.

You're such a geek and so am I for understanding it!

SimpleSam06

People are naturally attracted to unusual looking people, racially. Something to do with genetic diversity, no doubt. All of the asians I know would love to have the milk white skin of an Irish girl, and most of the Irish girls I know would be very happy with the golden or brown skin of the asian ladies. There are tanning salons in Ireland, skin whitening parlours in the far east. I've put my money where my mouth is though, the missus is from south east asia.

flanum

to add petrol to the fire, how come a lot of chinese girls have one lazy eye? see lucy liu:

Overheal

chopperbyrne wrote: »

You're such a geek and so am I for understanding it!

Not a geek sir: a Paladin.

edit: damn what did plastic surgery do to lucy's face??

monkeyfudge

I can't believe this thread is still going.. it's the most unbelievably stupid generalisation I've ever heard.

Do people even realise how big Asia is?

If anything the word Asian conjures up images of people from India and Pakistan for me.

Sherifu

What would Borat do?

Caoimhín

flanum wrote: »

to add petrol to the fire, how come a lot of chinese girls have one lazy eye? see lucy liu:

I think thats sexy, as in thats the way her eyes would go when im prodding her kidneys.

Wibbs

The whole fascination with Asian women never really did it for me. Obviously a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman, but beyond that?

seraphimvc

togster wrote: »

So true. They age bad

that's a news to me asian people always look younger .FACT

Cunny-Funt

Overheal wrote: »

yea but germans get +2 to their fortitude save and an extra feat at every 4th level.

Cant beat that.

This comment is win.

flanum wrote: »

to add petrol to the fire, how come a lot of chinese girls have one lazy eye? see lucy liu:

This isnt. In response, the same reason why a lot of people all over the world get lazy eye. **** happens.

togster

seraphimvc wrote: »

that's a news to me asian people always look younger .FACT

Yes but have you ever seen a middle aged chinaman? Once they hit 30 they age rapid.

thefinalstage

Lazy eye? Nah. Just slow observaton over an extended period.

Lockstep

If anyone knows the Orwell shopping centre (if it can be called that) in Dublin and the chinese resteraunts had an extremely hot girl working there (dunno if she still works there)

Normally though, I'm usually not attracted to most Asians.
Maybe I'm xenophobic as I don't tend to go for blacks or latinos either.




But when there is a hot one, they look fantastic.
I love the almond eyes and clear skin.

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

I've put my money where my mouth is though, the missus is from south east asia.

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m2/nov2005/4/6/000E985E-B2DB-137D-AC180C01AC1BF814.jpg

Caoimhín

kickoutthejams wrote: »

If anyone knows the Orwell shopping centre (if it can be called that) in Dublin and the chinese resteraunts has an extremely hot girl working there (dunno if she still works there)

Normally though, I'm usually not attracted to most Asians.
Maybe I'm xenophobic as I don't tend to go for blacks or latinos either.

There are indeed hot, hot ones about. Indeed its an ambition of mine.

OK-Cancel-Apply

togster wrote: »

Can you still refer to chinese people as chinamen?

No.

Generic Poster wrote:

PC gone mad!

What's wrong with being PC? It's not that hard. Why say something behind somebody's back that you wouldn't say to their face? For example, you wouldn't tell a 'chinaman' joke to a Chinese person, so why tell it at all?

There's a 'butt' of every dodgy joke, and that 'butt' is usually a person from an ethnic minority. I won't pretend I didn't titter at the erection joke (Bangkok is in Thailand BTW), but I would feel for bad for the group on the end of it. As societies get more diverse, though, I think racist jokes will vanish.

Lockstep

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

For example, you wouldn't tell a 'chinaman' joke to a Chinese person, so why tell it at all?

Yes you would.

In my experience, many minorities are far more open minded to jokes than most people think.

I knew a couple of black people who would always say black people jokes to people and would laugh at black jokes themselves. Same with asian jokes etc.



Likewise, I was never offended by Irish jokes when I was abroad except in very rare cases:
reason: you can usually tell if someone is just taking the mick or delibertly trying to offend you.

Caoimhín

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

No.

There's a 'butt' of every dodgy joke, and that 'butt' is usually a person from an ethnic minority. I won't pretend I didn't titter at the erection joke (Bangkok is in Thailand BTW), but I would feel for bad for the group on the end of it. As societies get more diverse, though, I think racist jokes will vanish.

If i was the ethnic minority in China i wouldnt be at all bothered by being called an Irishman.

TPD

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

No.



What's wrong with being PC? It's not that hard. Why say something behind somebody's back that you wouldn't say to their face? For example, you wouldn't tell a 'chinaman' joke to a Chinese person, so why tell it at all?

There's a 'butt' of every dodgy joke, and that 'butt' is usually a person from an ethnic minority. I won't pretend I didn't titter at the erection joke (Bangkok is in Thailand BTW), but I would feel for bad for the group on the end of it. As societies get more diverse, though, I think racist jokes will vanish.

Sorry, but I dont really see how asians are the minority.

adam.number2

caoibhin wrote: »

If i was the ethnic minority in China i wouldnt be at all bothered by being called an Irishman.

Would you mind being called Paddy?

Lockstep

TPD wrote: »

Sorry, but I dont really see how asians are the minority.

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/photos/dr_pix/pwned.jpg

Caoimhín

adam.number2 wrote: »

Would you mind being called Paddy?

Not at all. I have been called paddy abroad and i wasn't at all offended.

seraphimvc

togster wrote: »

Yes but have you ever seen a middle aged chinaman? Once they hit 30 they age rapid.

teeheehee you ask the right man,i wouldt mind show you my aunties photos ,40+ look like younger than 30.while this is one of the best example you can get on this planet : (the attach photo i just randomly chose any of her 2008 photo,she is my goddess btw lol now any of her fans can freely PM me)
hehe,you know who is she right?44yrs old like 20+

this is the first time i have heard people say asian age bad(especially i wont step into japanese border).in fact from what can i see irish age well too,surprisingly among caucasian i say.the asian women age bad from 30 probably for those working 24 hrs for life/below average asian face:pac:(dont kill me,i am just generalizing my stuffs in AH!) but ye,indian looks extremely hot in early but incredibly madly loose up everything the shape after marriage from what i can see:pbut in the case of average taiwanese,southeast asian people,china cites girls,japan etc all 'chinese looking' people,nope,caucasian dreams to know the secret why asian looks so young/age well:pac:

*smoke bomb and run*

Maggie Cheung Man-Yuk

adam.number2

caoibhin wrote: »

Not at all. I have been called paddy abroad and i wasn't at all offended.

Rhetorical question Paddy.

FunkZ

I must say I love oriental birds, probably cause I've watched a bit too much of their 'programs'. I think I'll move to Japan after college!

Caoimhín

FunkZ wrote: »

I must say I love oriental birds, probably cause I've watched a bit too much of their 'programs'!

The special programmes?

OK-Cancel-Apply

TPD wrote: »

Sorry, but I dont really see how asians are the minority.

Yes, they are a minority in Ireland, Britain, the United States and just about everywhere else you'll find 'chinaman' jokes.

OK-Cancel-Apply

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Yes you would.

In my experience, many minorities are far more open minded to jokes than most people think.

Open minded to jokes? "Oh, you're offended? You need to be more open minded.."

The minorities who laugh at your racist jokes are only being polite, and I bet they'd still prefer if you didn't tell them at all. I mean, how far would you go? Where do you draw the line? How racist and offensive does a joke have to be before it's unacceptable? If you want to test the limits of 'open mindedness' go right ahead, but I think it would be better to rid ourselves of this mindset entirely.

Lockstep

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Open minded to jokes? "Oh, you're offended? You need to be more open minded.."

Don't.Put.Words.In.My.Mouth.

Thanks

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

The minorities who laugh at your racist jokes are only being polite, and I bet they'd still prefer if you didn't tell them at all. I mean, how far would you go? Where do you draw the line? How racist and offensive does a joke have to be before it's unacceptable? If you want to test the limits of 'open mindedness' go right ahead, but I think it would be better to rid ourselves of this mindset entirely.

First of all,being a minority doesn't automatically make you part of a race.
I can make a chinest joke without being racist.


Secondly, fair play on the generalisation front: that they are only laughing to be polite.
Actually it's more a case of I know them, I know their level of humour and they know mine. They tell Irish, Christian and white people jokes. I tell jokes of whatever their ethnicity/religion are etc.


Final point: It's usually blatantly obvious if someone is just taking the piss or is trying to be offensive.
Go live abroad, see other people#s attitudes to the Irish and then come back with your overly PC sentiments.

By your own definition of race and your generalisation, by your own standards wouldn't you be a racist?

Cunny-Funt

Till this thread I had no idea saying Chinaman was meant to be racist. Not that I ever said it, but its just a little odd. In fact its stupid.

seraphimvc wrote: »

teeheehee you ask the right man,i wouldt mind show you my aunties photos ,40+ look like younger than 30.while this is one of the best example you can get on this planet : (the attach photo i just randomly chose any of her 2008 photo,she is my goddess btw lol now any of her fans can freely PM me)
hehe,you know who is she right?44yrs old like 20+

this is the first time i have heard people say asian age bad(especially i wont step into japanese border).in fact from what can i see irish age well too,surprisingly among caucasian i say.the asian women age bad from 30 probably for those working 24 hrs for life/below average asian face:pac:(dont kill me,i am just generalizing my stuffs in AH!) but ye,indian looks extremely hot in early but incredibly madly loose up everything the shape after marriage from what i can see:pbut in the case of average taiwanese,southeast asian people,china cites girls,japan etc all 'chinese looking' people,nope,caucasian dreams to know the secret why asian looks so young/age well:pac:

*smoke bomb and run*

Maggie Cheung Man-Yuk

Are you saying the actress Maggie Cheung is your aunt?

OK-Cancel-Apply

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Don't.Put.Words.In.My.Mouth.
First of all,being a minority doesn't automatically make you part of a race.
I can make a chinest joke without being racist.

Wha? I said ethnic minority. Don't know what your point is though.

You can make Chinese jokes, but don't be surprised if people, especially Chinese people, are offended by them. And if they ARE offended by them, instead of saying they should be more 'open minded', why not just cease making the jokes? Is it hard?

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Actually it's more a case of I know them, I know their level of humour and they know mine. They tell Irish, Christian and white people jokes. I tell jokes of whatever their ethnicity/religion are etc.

Well I don't, and I think it's a hideous thing to make jokes about whatever race, ethnicity or religion someone happens to be. What's the point?

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Go live abroad, see other people#s attitudes to the Irish and then come back with your overly PC sentiments.

No idea what point you're trying to make here. And where do you draw the line between PC, and overly PC? Like I said, how racist does a joke have to be before it's unacceptable?

kickoutthejams wrote: »

By your own definition of race and your generalisation, by your own standards wouldn't you be a racist?

Once again, I'm completely and utterly lost.

Lockstep

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Wha? I said ethnic minority. Don't know what your point is though.

My main point was that making a minority joke is not necessarily racist. I really shouldn't have to explain that.
Secondly your attempt to put words in my mouth was just irrititating.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

You can make Chinese jokes, but don't be surprised if people, especially Chinese people, are offended by them. And if they ARE offended by them, instead of saying they should be more 'open minded', why not just cease making the jokes? Is it hard?

First of all, you need to cop on. Chinese people are just as varied as the rest of us. Just like everyone else, there are those who don't like any form of joke being directed at them, others will laugh and then slag you. You seem to be under the impression that I go up to random Chinese people and make jokes to them. Go figure.
As I said, there are people I know who I will joke with, others I don't. It all comes down to common sense.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Well I don't, and I think it's a hideous thing to make jokes about whatever race, ethnicity or religion someone happens to be. What's the point?

What's the point? When did humour ever come from being PC?
Jokes very seldom come across without being directed at some form or another.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

No idea what point you're trying to make here. And where do you draw the line between PC, and overly PC? Like I said, how racist does a joke have to be before it's unacceptable?

Where do you draw the line between being acceptable and unacceptable?
I'm honestly not in favor of any joke being censored just because it's not PC.

For the simple reason that it's impossible to draw the line. There will always be the butt of a joke, but it's usually fairly obvious to tell if someone is being genuinely offensive or joking. Hence I'm opposed to an abstract censorship.

In principle, either censor everything, or nothing.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Once again, I'm completely and utterly lost.

Is this the part where by being vague and not addressing the question you "pwn" me?

OK-Cancel-Apply

kickoutthejams wrote: »

My main point was that making a minority joke is not necessarily racist. I really shouldn't have to explain that.
Secondly your attempt to put words in my mouth was just irrititating.

So your issue is with distinguishing 'races' from other minorities, right? Ok, if you make a joke about Christians, it's not racist, but jokes about 'Chinamen' are.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

First of all, you need to cop on. Chinese people are just as varied as the rest of us. Just like everyone else, there are those who don't like any form of joke being directed at them, others will laugh and then slag you. You seem to be under the impression that I go up to random Chinese people and make jokes to them. Go figure.

In bold > Yes... Did I say Chinese people were 'not as varied as the rest of us'?? What are you talking about? Where does that even come into this discussion? My position is simple - racist jokes are not cool or clever, and may seriously and quite understandably offend someone from whichever racial or ethnic minority they are targeted at.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

What's the point? When did humour ever come from being PC?
Jokes very seldom come across without being directed at some form or another.

Maybe you're right, in which case I would stop calling 'chinaman' jokes un-PC and start calling them downright racist. Perhaps it depends on the joke itself, but TBH I've heard enough of them to know the gist.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Where do you draw the line between being acceptable and unacceptable?
I'm honestly not in favor of any joke being censored just because it's not PC.

Causing serious and needless offence, or making someone feel unwelcome, or making someone feel like a stranger in their chosen home. Imagine having a laugh with a few friends, one of which is Chinese - how do you think he'd feel after spending a few hours enjoying himself, to hear a chinaman joke? There's a good chance he'd feel like an outsider. I mean seriously, would you tell that 'erection' joke to him? Sure, he may laugh politely (or he may not), but why risk hurting him? Try and put yourself in his shoes.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

For the simple reason that it's impossible to draw the line. There will always be the butt of a joke, but it's usually fairly obvious to tell if someone is being genuinely offensive or joking. Hence I'm opposed to an abstract censorship.

In principle, either censor everything, or nothing.

Nonsense, of course it's possible to draw these lines if we apply our brains. After a while it'll become second nature.

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Is this the part where by being vague and not addressing the question you "pwn" me?

No, 'pwning' is your childish pursuit, as demonstrated when you posted this:

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/ph..._pix/pwned.jpg

I'm lost because I've no idea which corner of your large intestine you've pulled:

By your own definition of race and your generalisation, by your own standards wouldn't you be a racist?

So, are you going to avoid explaining yourself?

Lockstep

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

So your issue is with distinguishing 'races' from other minorities, right? Ok, if you make a joke about Christians, it's not racist, but jokes about 'Chinamen' are.

Newsflash for you mate:
The Chinese aren't a race.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

In bold > Yes... Did I say Chinese people were 'not as varied as the rest of us'?? What are you talking about? Where does that even come into this discussion? My position is simple - racist jokes are not cool or clever, and may seriously and quite understandably offend someone from whichever racial or ethnic minority they are targeted at.

No, but you did say

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

The minorities who laugh at your racist jokes are only being polite

My point on them being as varied as the rest of us stands to reason as you are making points on the people I know. Despite you not even knowing them at all.
How do you know they are upset? As I'm sick of saying, THEY ARE MY TYPE OF HUMOUR.
Just as I, a white Irish guy like unpc jokes, so do they. As I am able to mock Catholics, white guys and Irish guys, so too are they able to mock themselves.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Maybe you're right, in which case I would stop calling 'chinaman' jokes un-PC and start calling them downright racist. Perhaps it depends on the joke itself, but TBH I've heard enough of them to know the gist.

Yeah, being CHinese is a race.
Pfff.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Causing serious and needless offence, or making someone feel unwelcome, or making someone feel like a stranger in their chosen home. Imagine having a laugh with a few friends, one of which is Chinese - how do you think he'd feel after spending a few hours enjoying himself, to hear a chinaman joke? There's a good chance he'd feel like an outsider.

Oh dear Lord.

Yes mate, every single Chinaman has exactly the same humour style and are unable to laugh at themselves.

I really am sick of arguing the same point which you just seem totally unable to grasp.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

I mean seriously, would you tell that 'erection' joke to him? Sure, he may laugh politely (or he may not), but why risk hurting him? Try and put yourself in his shoes.

I havn't heard it before but it is a good one. The kind of people I know would hear it, laugh and then come back with a blistering counter attack. If it makes you feel more comfy, I can come up with some Irish jokes but you'd probably get offended.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

Nonsense, of course it's possible to draw these lines if we apply our brains. After a while it'll become second nature.

Wrong. Let's take the abstract rule: don't make a joke if it offends someone.
Nearly all levels of humour would be ruled out.

I'd love to hear how you'd come up with an abstract rule.

Jokes need to be adapted to the people around them. I know someone who is in the process of "coming out" so I don't make lesbian jokes to her as she is finding it hard. I had a friend in Belgium who was established in her sexuality and loved hearing lesbian jokes and would come back with incisive straight people jokes.

I'm opposed to abstract rules as they are impossible to apply.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

No, 'pwning' is your childish pursuit, as demonstrated when you posted this:

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/ph..._pix/pwned.jpg

Ah yeah. Pwning is a serious business. Get over yourself.
I posted a Pwn picture.
Yawn.

If you took your head out of your ass for a second, then you'd see the post wasn't an attempt to laugh at you pwning but the lame way you went about it.

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

I'm lost because I've no idea which corner of your large intestine you've pulled:

To be honest, I'm impressed that your willing to refer to a large intestine. WHAT IF SOMEONE PULLED A LARGE INTESTINE? OMG YOU OFFENDED THEM !!!!!!!111!!!!!

OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »

So, are you going to avoid explaining yourself?

Hey well done, you found the italics key and have used it successfully multiple times in the post.

Allright, let's go through my post in idiot mode:

1) You are unable to differentiate between ethnicity and race.
2)You made a generalisation about the people I know, assuming that they must be offended. Surely you know that people are offended by different types of things and there are no hard and fast rules.

COnclusion: Your skewed view of race applied to Chinese people I know, and your bandying about of the word racism would infer that due to your generalisation of people I know, you are a racist.

Comprende?

connundrum

At the end of the day, I've seen a few Chinese mingers in my time. Therefore the argument holding this thread together is null and void.

Lockstep

connundrum wrote: »

At the end of the day, I've seen a few Chinese mingers in my time. Therefore the argument holding this thread together is null and void.

I agree
There are also Chinese stunners.

Real stunners.

Same with every other nationality.


I'm not a big fan of the idea that the Chinese female population can be lumped together.

togster

I'm sick of pc bull****. If i want to call a chinaman a chinaman i will call him a chinaman. God sake

Lockstep

togster wrote: »

I'm sick of pc bull****. If i want to call a chinaman a chinaman i will call him a chinaman. God sake

+1
I agree.

He's a man.
From China.

Chinaman.
Or Chinawoman.

Whatever.

Thirdfox

togster wrote: »

I'm sick of pc bull****. If i want to call a chinaman a chinaman i will call him a chinaman. God sake

It is your prerogative to do what you want - just be aware of the consequences.

If people want to call black people "Negroes" is that okay too? (by your logic it is perfectly fine) Check out some of the old classics (Robinson Crusoe etc.) very un-PC in today's society but acceptable back then. Similarly the term "Chinaman" may have been acceptable in the past but really isn't by today's standard.

And if you know it isn't acceptable and continue to publicly say it, one can only presume you are intentionally trying to provoke a response. Privately I don't give a toss if you think we're all c**nks or not. Just don't say it to my face

connundrum

Thirdfox wrote: »

If people want to call black people "Negroes" is that okay too? (by your logic it is perfectly fine)

I would have thought his logic would have pointed to a black man being called a blackman

JimmyCrackCorn!

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

People are naturally attracted to unusual looking people, racially. Something to do with genetic diversity, no doubt. All of the asians I know would love to have the milk white skin of an Irish girl, and most of the Irish girls I know would be very happy with the golden or brown skin of the asian ladies. There are tanning salons in Ireland, skin whitening parlours in the far east. I've put my money where my mouth is though, the missus is from south east asia.

Similar experience. All good though.

Diets across Asia/China vary radically but are 100 times better than western diets in general which may explain the average age they live to being higher. Plus they tend to eat less meat.
As for the teeth thing there better than mine:rolleyes:

Caoimhín

Has anyone ever asked the Chinese if the term is offensive?

JimmyCrackCorn!

caoibhin wrote: »

Has anyone ever asked the Chinese if the term is offensive?

I will when i go home. I assume no. Now Chairman Meow didnt go down too well.:rolleyes:

Caoimhín

JimmyCrackCorn! wrote: »

I will when i go home. I assume no. Now Chairman Meow didnt go down too well.:rolleyes:

Just ask around a bit, wont take long:rolleyes:

Seriously, National Geographic is all about China this month, great reading and photos.