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Garda Recruitment - Applying to join An Garda Siochana

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    msg11 wrote: »
    Do you not need Irish regardless?

    No. The requirement for Irish was changed. You must have 2 languages from you leaving, I,e English and any other language e.g French, German, Spanish, or Irish. Before you had to have Irish from the Leaving. Now English and another language (which does not need to be Irish).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    msg11 wrote: »
    Nearly sure I have to go back for Irish next year, might aswell upgrade the math level while I am at it.

    Unbelievable that I can say around 10 words in Irish after nearly 10+ years of studying Irish. Is it my fault ? Comparing it to some other skills I picked up in school I think not, I would have more an idea how to build a roof on a house than tell you how to turn left at the top of the road in Irish. The Irish course needs to be brought into the modern arena.

    Going of the 'subject' so to speak. The Irish teacher we had (a lay teacher), from my secondary school, was a bully and ruled the class likewise. He put the fear of God into everyone. Consequently the Irish classes with him were viewed with dread and fear. It didn't help the 'learning environment'! Well that's my excuse anyway (having failed Irish in my leaving).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    This is a good email to have for Garda HQ in regard to recruitment (however prob. most of you know that here?);

    appointments@garda.ie

    They can normally answer any queries (well they have in my case) one would have in regards to queries about recruitment i.e educational requirements, medical condition queries, et cetera. Don't ask them when the next recruitment drive will be however! That's one thing they don't know. Although I suspect it may not be far away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    yenom wrote: »
    Would a University Political degree be of any advantage? Nearly have one myself.

    Certainly would. And in the current political climate a prerequisite I'd say!! ;-)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 9 asgaeilge


    DustyMan wrote: »
    Certainly would. And in the current political climate a prerequisite I's say!! ;-)



    connection to a senior politician could help also!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    asgaeilge wrote: »
    connection to a senior politician could help also!

    As a friend of mine would say, "It would be funny if it wasn't true!". ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    In relation to relevant qualifications I can only assume that there will be people from all walks of life applying with just great LC results to PhD holders all with varying degrees of life experience. When this campaign is said and done it would be interesting to see the average age profile and education level of sucessful applicants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭WilcoOut


    If i was to offer some advice on the language issue i would say learn Polish or Chinese

    based on my experience as a Reserve Garda, these are the two most common languages I have been met with after English

    Irish would be miles down the list after Russian, Spanish and a variety of African Dialects

    although im a huge advocate of learning our native tongue, in terms of your day to day policing, Polish would be number 1 followed by Chinese


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    When did the Gardai recruit models !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    3fullback wrote: »
    When did the Gardai recruit models !!
    she is verrry pretty lol


    WilcoOut wrote: »
    If i was to offer some advice on the language issue i would say learn Polish or Chinese

    based on my experience as a Reserve Garda, these are the two most common languages I have been met with after English

    Irish would be miles down the list after Russian, Spanish and a variety of African Dialects

    although im a huge advocate of learning our native tongue, in terms of your day to day policing, Polish would be number 1 followed by Chinese

    Polish is probably easier than Irish to learn anyway :D Anyone think it'd be any benifit to get another category of license? I was gonna go and get my C license but would I be better off trying for another category of license?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    Perhaps recruitment is not so far away?!

    http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2013-06-13a.389&s=garda+reserve#g391.r

    Bernard Durkan (Kildare North, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source
    140. To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality the current total strength of an Garda Síochána including the Garda Reserve; if further recruitment is required by a specific date; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [28564/13]

    Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source
    I have been informed by the Garda authorities that the personnel strength of An Garda Síochána on 30 April 2013, the latest date for which figures are readily available, was 13,330. There are also 1,087 members of the Garda Reserve with a further 172 in training. In relation to recruitment, I am in discussions with my colleague, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, on this matter. I intend to bring proposals to Cabinet in the near future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭King Ludvig


    Shatter renews pledge to restart garda recruitment

    The Justice Minister Alan Shatter is renewing his promise to resume garda recruitment, but he admits there is no timeframe for the process.

    Minister Shatter says he is in negotiations with the Public Expenditure and Reform Minister Brendan Howlin to hire new officers on a modest scale and ensure the force stays above 13,000.

    In April he delayed his plans to begin recruiting again, following the rejection of the revised public sector pay deal.

    However Minster Shatter, who is today appearing before the Oireachtas Justice Committee, now says its important to have a regular intake.

    "I believe it is important to have some regular intakes of recruits, even if on a modest scale," he said.

    "I'm currently engaged in discussions with the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform to see how this aim could be best progressed,"


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/shatter-renews-pledge-to-restart-garda-recruitment-597930.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    More talk...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    It won't happen till the election year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    yenom wrote: »
    It won't happen till the election year.

    If even then. It'll probably just be more promises :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    Rothmans wrote: »
    If even then. It'll probably just be more promises :(

    It could happen this year. There's €1B less to be cut from the budget. Labour want it spent, Fine Gael want tax cuts.

    It will depend on how few numbers they want it to go to and how dangerous they want it to do to.

    There is local election next year though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭Citycap


    A month or so ago Shatter said that he intended commencing some recruitment but got upset because the Gardaí rejected Croke Park 2.
    They have now accepted Haddington Road agreement so he needn't throw his rattler out of the pram anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Any updates lads/ladies with regards recruitment?

    What have ye been doing in the meantime?

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    Any updates lads/ladies with regards recruitment?

    What have ye been doing in the meantime?

    ;)


    Well im a member of the Defence Forces and have a degree in Forensics science, also have qualifications in water rescue, so heres hoping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 shaunaduffy


    i wonder when you become an offical garda do you get posted to a station where you life or where?? any ideas??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    i wonder when you become an offical garda do you get posted to a station where you life or where?? any ideas??


    You can be stationed anywhere in the country Shauna


  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭thesamster


    Can you sit the interview while waiting on your exam results


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    You won't get an interview until u have passed the exam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    i wonder when you become an offical garda do you get posted to a station where you life or where?? any ideas??

    Normally you nominate areas you'd like to work/serve near the end of your training.. I think this is 3-5 areas but I stand to be corrected on this. Normally your sent where the most need is, so if your from Waterford you COULD get a post in Donegal, but you may get an area where you originally nominated i.e. if your from Offaly and you nominated a place in Laois you could get that posting. You won't get posted to where your from that's for sure. However the longer your in AGS you can eventfully request to transfer back to NEAR where your originally from. That's if you want to! But you'll not serve/ be posted to your local area i.e. where your from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    You could be put anywhere in the country.

    But the Garda are a community based policing model. So basing someone from Wexford up in Donegal is not exactly community orientated, it's good to have Garda in areas that have some knowledge of the landscape, community type, types of humor and personalities types in an area.

    I'm from Dublin if I was put in Kerry for example, I could say something humorous or in general that a Kerry person might find very offensive with that bringing down the respect of the organization.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Hi folks,

    My situation at the moment.

    I m in the process for the reserves stage3,

    I have a degree and masters.

    I am working full time

    ECDL,Driving,First Aid coverd

    Involved in the community..

    Am i on the right track??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    Your on the exactly the same course as me, Im Defence Forces, Degree in Forensics, Driving, First aid and water rescue, Secretary of 2 local clubs and play sports at Local and county level so heres hoping


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Your on the exactly the same course as me, Im Defence Forces, Degree in Forensics, Driving, First aid and water rescue, Secretary of 2 local clubs and play sports at Local and county level so heres hoping

    Thanks for your reply!

    fair play..

    the waiting is a killer,aint it!!

    What age are you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    the waits a killer, early 20 mate you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    the waits a killer, early 20 mate you?

    Same!

    I guess we have time on our side..

    Would you ever look at the PSNI?

    I was thinking of it recently


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭WilcoOut



    Your on the exactly the same course as me, Im Defence Forces, Degree in Forensics, Driving, First aid and water rescue, Secretary of 2 local clubs and play sports at Local and county level so heres hoping

    are you RDF or PDF?

    with regard to your forensics degree - expect to serve your probation for 2 years before you even think of applying for any crime scene spots

    but yeah, your on the right track


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    Hi folks,

    My situation at the moment.

    I m in the process for the reserves stage3,

    I have a degree and masters.

    I am working full time

    ECDL,Driving,First Aid coverd

    Involved in the community..

    Am i on the right track??

    What did you do your degree and masters in ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭DustyMan


    msg11 wrote: »
    You could be put anywhere in the country.

    But the Garda are a community based policing model. So basing someone from Wexford up in Donegal is not exactly community orientated, it's good to have Garda in areas that have some knowledge of the landscape, community type, types of humor and personalities types in an area.

    I'm from Dublin if I was put in Kerry for example, I could say something humorous or in general that a Kerry person might find very offensive with that bringing down the respect of the organization.

    You mean you'd actually tell a Kerry man Dublin will win the All-Ireland?! ;-)

    It's unlikely they would station someone from e.g Waterford up to Donegal as I think I used in an example. But such situations were common and a lot of Kerry folk served in Dublin too. Mostly trainees are sent to Met areas i.e Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick, Waterford. It's not black n white. Most can get to an area generally close to their area as their careers progress an eg would be if you lived in Carlow and had been stationed in Dublin one could end up getting a transfer to Portlaoise (just an example!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    3fullback wrote: »
    What did you do your degree and masters in ?

    Hi Fullback,

    I did a general BA degree and then a Masters in Business.

    What stage are you at yourself?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    DustyMan wrote: »
    You mean you'd actually tell a Kerry man Dublin will win the All-Ireland?! ;-)

    It's unlikely they would station someone from e.g Waterford up to Donegal as I think I used in an example. But such situations were common and a lot of Kerry folk served in Dublin too. Mostly trainees are sent to Met areas i.e Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick, Waterford. It's not black n white. Most can get to an area generally close to their area as their careers progress an eg would be if you lived in Carlow and had been stationed in Dublin one could end up getting a transfer to Portlaoise (just an example!).

    Yes I d agree with you DustyMan,

    Usually you d get sent to a fairly built up area like a City or big town,of course the exceptions do apply,

    With the way the rural stations are being phased out I believe that
    with time only central locations will exist.Whether this is a good thing or not!!

    And over time it is possible as Dusty mentioned to get back closer to home!

    I know AGS who ended up going towards home after a few years

    Limerick-Cork(Home)
    Dublin-Cork City- Waterford(Home)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭wildfowler94


    PDF man, cant join the PSNI I think because I have an Irish flag on my upper arm. Not really interested in doing forensics full time just did it to get in, id ratther do anything else tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    Is the ECDL really that important? Do Gardaí use computers to the extent where that is needed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    yenom wrote: »
    Is the ECDL really that important? Do Gardaí use computers to the extent where that is needed?


    Most places would need to use microsoft word, excel and things like that and it's very handy. I done the 2005 and 2007 ECDL. Might sound funny but i'd imagine little things like knowing how to use a printer and stuff like that would be important and make life a lot easier for you.


    I think the ECDL course is only about 6 weeks long anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    carzony wrote: »
    Most places would need to use microsoft word, excel and things like that and it's very handy. I done the 2005 and 2007 ECDL. Might sound funny but i'd imagine little things like knowing how to use a printer and stuff like that would be important and make life a lot easier for you.


    I think the ECDL course is only about 6 weeks long anyway.

    Done most of them last year but failed one. I suppose it would be no harm to go back and do that one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    yenom wrote: »
    Done most of them last year but failed one. I suppose it would be no harm to go back and do that one.

    Same myself actually :P I was in a hurry and had other things on my mind and failed my 2007 exam but went back a few days later and passed it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    ECDL a handy certification to have in any job not just AGS etc

    I use it everyday in my job for instance

    Looks good on the c.v also ;);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 pocpaul


    Hey all, just a question regarding the eye sight requirements. "the vision standard required of a Garda trainee is not less than 6/18, 6/18 (correctable to 6/9, 6/12) unaided by glasses or contact lenses, with normal colour vision."

    I rang my opticians and was told my eye sight is 6/8 for both eyes unaided, she wouldn't give me out any other information over the phone but just thought to ask here in the meantime. I don't know how the rating works but it dosn't look good for me or is it? I have granular dystrophy also so laser treatment is out of the question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    pocpaul wrote: »
    Hey all, just a question regarding the eye sight requirements. "the vision standard required of a Garda trainee is not less than 6/18, 6/18 (correctable to 6/9, 6/12) unaided by glasses or contact lenses, with normal colour vision."

    I rang my opticians and was told my eye sight is 6/8 for both eyes unaided, she wouldn't give me out any other information over the phone but just thought to ask here in the meantime. I don't know how the rating works but it dosn't look good for me or is it? I have granular dystrophy also so laser treatment is out of the question.

    Id say ring HQ pocpaul, They d be able to give you an answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    To start next year?

    Is this early or is this actually the timeframe in which they said the embargo would end.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Royal Seahawk


    I'm assuming that those currently serving in the Garda Reserves will be in pole position for the limited number of spaces that do come up. While they'll have to go through the same process as everyone else I'd imagine that once they get to interview stage then they're pretty much in the door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Can anyone tell me if you can get an educational exemption when your going for the full time garda i no you can for GR i am a grade behind in maths will this be a problem ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭thekopend


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me if you can get an educational exemption when your going for the full time garda i no you can for GR i am a grade behind in maths will this be a problem ?

    There is no education exemptions for fully time, only equivalents. The best thing to do would be to try and get a better maths grade by repeating the subject. The reality of it is lads is that with the numbers applying to the amount of spaces you will want everything going for you and more, and even then people will not make it. There will be no exceptions this time round. It's gas because a lot of people that made it in during the boom probably would not make it in in this campaign. The standard will be double. People who would make the best of guards will be cut short in the upcoming recruitment. The best thing we could is try our best and not to get our hopes up (as much as possible) fingers crossed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    thekopend wrote: »
    There is no education exemptions for fully time, only equivalents. The best thing to do would be to try and get a better maths grade by repeating the subject. The reality of it is lads is that with the numbers applying to the amount of spaces you will want everything going for you and more, and even then people will not make it. There will be no exceptions this time round. It's gas because a lot of people that made it in during the boom probably would not make it in in this campaign. The standard will be double. People who would make the best of guards will be cut short in the upcoming recruitment. The best thing we could is try our best and not to get our hopes up (as much as possible) fingers crossed.

    Looking at things now it makes me wish I was a few years older and then I would have been able to join a few years ago :D No doubt things will be tough but in fairness any job is like that now. I know a women who applied for a job in a supermarket and she was told she was up against another 300 people :eek: Wait till the madness begins next year :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    Has anyone got laser eye surgery to get in? I would imagine if I got it done that there'd be no hassle from that part of the test?


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