your opinions

anonymiss

Background: ok so i'm doing a college project and I need to quote a few snippets of opinions on this. Instead of making them up (which would be allowed in the context of the project) I thought it'd be much more interesting to really ask people.

So imagine that a single female friend of yours goes out one night... I want you to imagine exactly what she'd wear and how she'd behave. And she goes home with some guy-- or maybe an acquaintance, I'll leave it up to your imagination. You can totally make up details about how they met or what happened, just as long as you've created a specific story in your head.

I didn't entitle this thread "your opinions on rape" because I didn't want to skew anyones opinions either way. There (probably..) wasn't even planned out intent or a drug other than alcohol involved in this situation. I'll leave it up to you how to define that.

So let's say you're finding out details about this fateful night that we just made up, what is your reaction? I'm looking for off-hand, guttural opinions.. like the first thing you think of.. be that "he's a bastard" or be it "oh come, on she was teasing him all night" or whatever.

Hope that's within the rules. I know sex/sexuality isn't allowed on boards but I don't think this falls within that realm.
Thanks!

faceman

I have never been so confused by a thread since i went into the programming forum!!!

so somebody had sex, but you dont want to suggest it was rape, but we can make up our own story, so they may not have had sex?

Sex is allowed on boards, as long as you dont have it at a venue promoted by michael collins dwyer

AlmightyCushion

In Soviet Russia, woman rape you.

TheNog

It is a difficult one to call. It is even more difficult to prove in court hence the low conviction rate and even lower reporting rate of those who allege they have been raped. I say 'alleged' 'cos it has been known for a man to be falsely accused even if it is rare.

The factor in most rapes is alcohol. So many people, male and female, are putting themselves at risk through excess alcohol which is widely known to reduce inhibitions and also reduce good choice making. All a person has to do is sit outside a niteclub on a saturday night and you'll see what I mean.

Here is my quote that I have been saying for years "The worst thing a man can do to a woman is rape her, the worst thing a woman can do to a man is falsely accuse him of rape"

Xavi6

It was surprise sex, and everyone love surprises.

BJC

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

In Soviet Russia, woman rape you.

I'm so over that joke

Jesus Wept

I have no idea what's going on.

Nerin

faceman wrote: »

I have never been so confused by a thread since i went into the programming forum!!!

so somebody had sex, but you dont want to suggest it was rape, but we can make up our own story, so they may not have had sex?

Sex is allowed on boards, as long as you dont have it at a venue promoted by michael collins dwyer

im so freaking confused by the op...so confused.

BJC wrote: »

I'm so over that joke

in soviet russia, joke is over you. *gets coat*

drunkmonkey

If they wen't home together I'd probably think they fcuked as she looked pretty horny and wasn't wearing any tights....

Doubt it was rape....she'd kick and scream like a mule.....that fella would be black and blue if he forced her into it......she's probably making it up....there's something else going on that we don't know about......


Man that's a dumb ass question....

Kazobel

anonymiss wrote: »

Background: ok so i'm doing a college project and I need to quote a few snippets of opinions on this. Instead of making them up (which would be allowed in the context of the project) I thought it'd be much more interesting to really ask people.

So imagine that a single female friend of yours goes out one night... I want you to imagine exactly what she'd wear and how she'd behave. And she goes home with some guy-- or maybe an acquaintance, I'll leave it up to your imagination. You can totally make up details about how they met or what happened, just as long as you've created a specific story in your head.

I didn't entitle this thread "your opinions on rape" because I didn't want to skew anyones opinions either way. There (probably..) wasn't even planned out intent or a drug other than alcohol involved in this situation. I'll leave it up to you how to define that.
So let's say you're finding out details about this fateful night that we just made up, what is your reaction? I'm looking for off-hand, guttural opinions.. like the first thing you think of.. be that "he's a bastard" or be it "oh come, on she was teasing him all night" or whatever.

Hope that's within the rules. I know sex/sexuality isn't allowed on boards but I don't think this falls within that realm.
Thanks!

By saying that you actually did skew opinions because you're asking everyone to make up the situation but implying it's rape either way, you're first two paragraphs don't even imply sex, as you say they could just be acquaintances so who's to say the even had sex? girls and guys can be non-sexual friends too, you're third paragraph just presumes there was a rape. The only details of this "fateful night" is two people went home together after a night out, shock horror because it's not like thats ever happened before in the whole of human existance, for all we know the could have played scrabble but you want everyone to assume rape, thats not a project, that's a stereotype. Since we can make up the story maybe she got him drunk and used him just to get pregnant because he has a good job and would be financial security? or maybe he's well off and she's looking for an easy payoff, all those senarios happen too but to assume it's automaticaly a guy raping a girl if they go home together is a joke. For a college project that's a pretty dumb senario and in my opinion wouldn't be worth even an F minus and you'd only get that if you had good punctuation.

Traq

Oh wow, my head hurts from reading that...

I'd be outraged I think, no wait, I'd be happy for the new couple and would hope to be invited to the wedding.

Does that help?

Steve

In my story, I couldn't get past the bit where I had to imagine what she was wearing.

Couldn't think up any clothes at all.

sorry:(

All the guys in the bar liked the naked chick though.:pac:

Havermeyer

I don't know whats going on either. I will simply say that I would be pissed off she didn't go home with me. :P

BraziliaNZ

Rapists:

STOP.
THINK.
****.

Havermeyer

The OP was asking a simple question. No need for surprise buttsecks tbh. Although, I must admit, horses for courses of course. But that's no way to be courting a lady.

Xavi6

nummnutts wrote: »

The OP was asking a simple question. No need for surprise buttsecks tbh. Although, I must admit, horses for courses of course. But that's no way to be courting a lady.

You mean there are actually times when surprise buttsecks should NOT be used?

Redpunto

Sherifu

We need clinical trials.

biko

Must say I liked OPs user name more than post

SimpleSam06

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

In Soviet Russia, woman rape you.

I'll get mah coat.

whiskeyman

Can we say the story happened in Tomangoes?

18AD

After heartily consuming several beverages, the jolly duo return home to continue the already enjoyable night.
The taxi driver keeps to himself as they chat in the background over some
suitable tunes playing on the radio. All is taken care of.
They walk up the softly lit driveway and arive at the door. Both of them knowing where this night will lead them.
As the key slides in the lock, there's some sweet rustling of birds in the trees.
They turn to witness the beautiful natural moment together while several disguised men pounce from the bushes, forcing sweet vapours down their throats. ...darkness surrounded...

A good night for suprises and a sad sunrise for asses.

Thread: F-

AD.

_feedback_

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

In Soviet Russia, woman rape you.

Do Ryanair fly there?!

wahlrab

is she trying to get us to do her homework???

is it the whole a girl's drunk but the guy isn't and they have sex is he taking advantage sort of arguement

anonymiss

faceman wrote: »

I have never been so confused by a thread since i went into the programming forum!!!

so somebody had sex, but you dont want to suggest it was rape, but we can make up our own story, so they may not have had sex?

Sex is allowed on boards, as long as you dont have it at a venue promoted by michael collins dwyer

well, by definition, sex with someone who is drunk and so is not able to give consent IS rape. So yes it is rape. But I didn't want to say it that flatly. First of all because people know they're supposed to say "nooo rape is bad.", and I didn't want to put all the comments in that corner. And secondly because it is only hearsay; there may have been no sex at all.

anonymiss

wahlrab wrote: »

is she trying to get us to do her homework???

is it the whole a girl's drunk but the guy isn't and they have sex is he taking advantage sort of arguement

well, my homework involves getting peoples opinions. It would've been passable, but still kind of lame if I made them up. I can't be all points of view at the same time.

it all depends on the scenario. It could be that, yes. So, the gossip could be "he said he was drunk but he looked sober to me!".

Rob_l

anonymiss wrote: »

well, my homework involves getting peoples opinions. It would've been passable, but still kind of lame if I made them up. I can't be all points of view at the same time.

it all depends on the scenario. It could be that, yes. So, the gossip could be "he said he was drunk but he looked sober to me!".

So what if he is sober give the guy a break he doesn't have to get drunk whats with all the this peer pressure

anonymiss

Kazobel wrote: »

By saying that you actually did skew opinions because you're asking everyone to make up the situation but implying it's rape either way, you're first two paragraphs don't even imply sex, as you say they could just be acquaintances so who's to say the even had sex? girls and guys can be non-sexual friends too, you're third paragraph just presumes there was a rape.

*sigh* hmm, I see your point. What I meant is that it wasn't necessarily sex. So your reaction could be "pfft, nothing happened between them they're just friends". I'm basically looking for heresay/gossip snippets/opinions. The fact that everyone is imagining different events with different people here doesn't matter.

Kazobel wrote: »

The only details of this "fateful night" is two people went home together after a night out, shock horror because it's not like thats ever happened before in the whole of human existance, for all we know the could have played scrabble but you want everyone to assume rape, thats not a project, that's a stereotype.

again, I see what you mean. But what i meant is that.. you hear that your female friend was chatting with and went home with the guy. If it's your opinion that they just played scrabble, then that's valid too.

Kazobel wrote: »

Since we can make up the story maybe she got him drunk and used him just to get pregnant because he has a good job and would be financial security? or maybe he's well off and she's looking for an easy payoff, all those senarios happen too but to assume it's automaticaly a guy raping a girl if they go home together is a joke. For a college project that's a pretty dumb senario and in my opinion wouldn't be worth even an F minus and you'd only get that if you had good punctuation.

If she intentionally got him drunk and took advantage of him, then I think that'd mean he was raped. Where did I actually say that it's automatically the girl who got raped? I honestly did not mean to imply that. You've got a strong, thought out opinion on this which is great.

I appreciate the feedback, but you don't know my course and you don't know how this stuff is going to be used in the project. Not to brag, but I'm someone who generally gets good marks.

anonymiss

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If they wen't home together I'd probably think they fcuked as she looked pretty horny and wasn't wearing any tights....

Doubt it was rape....she'd kick and scream like a mule.....that fella would be black and blue if he forced her into it......she's probably making it up....there's something else going on that we don't know about......

A++ thanks!

anonymiss

biko wrote: »

Must say I liked OPs user name more than post

um.. thanks?

anonymiss

18AD wrote: »

After heartily consuming several beverages, the jolly duo return home to continue the already enjoyable night.....

I'm not sure if that was disturbing or funny

anonymiss

whiskeyman wrote: »

Can we say the story happened in Tomangoes?

Isn't that a band?

Sherifu

anonymiss wrote: »

Isn't that a band?

A pub. Ohhhhh the stories from that place.

Kazobel

anonymiss wrote: »

*sigh* hmm, I see your point. What I meant is that it wasn't necessarily sex. So your reaction could be "pfft, nothing happened between them they're just friends". I'm basically looking for heresay/gossip snippets/opinions. The fact that everyone is imagining different events with different people here doesn't matter..

*sigh* But by mentioning rape in your OP you've already nullified the replies, because no matter the hearsay/gossip/opinions that are put forward they are all influenced by your mention of rape which in itself you may consider as the start of the gossip but it's not because to study real gossip in the way I think you're trying to you can't blatantly direct the conversation from the start if you want it to be totally random assumptions.

anonymiss wrote: »

again, I see what you mean. But what i meant is that.. you hear that your female friend was chatting with and went home with the guy. If it's your opinion that they just played scrabble, then that's valid too.

No actually, what you want is to compare the opinions of males and females about a night where you implied rape and see if the majority of male would dismiss it as a mutual agreement and if the majority of females would be outraged by the implication to somehow show the different attitudes of the sexes to how a night can turn out but any results are still nulified by your implication of rape because then all you did was direct the senario which is then no longer a hypothetical because you've already given the foundation of it being a rape.

anonymiss wrote: »

If she intentionally got him drunk and took advantage of him, then I think that'd mean he was raped. Where did I actually say that it's automatically the girl who got raped? I honestly did not mean to imply that. You've got a strong, thought out opinion on this which is great.

The fact that you implied rape, no matter wether it was on his part or hers, makes this pointless. It proves nothing now because you directed it to rape in the first place so each rumour will always be directed to rape because that was part of your senario and not an assumption anyone could come up with on their own.

anonymiss wrote: »

I appreciate the feedback, but you don't know my course and you don't know how this stuff is going to be used in the project. Not to brag, but I'm someone who generally gets good marks.

Not this time, your project is not in any way unbaised, you're directing it just to get the results you want, even all your replies still imply a rape by him, it's all "He said", "He did". you are soooo trying to direct this.

F minus minus

fly_agaric

anonymiss wrote: »

So imagine that a single female friend of yours goes out one night... I want you to imagine exactly what she'd wear and how she'd behave. And she goes home with some guy-- or maybe an acquaintance, I'll leave it up to your imagination. You can totally make up details about how they met or what happened, just as long as you've created a specific story in your head.

Ok.

anonymiss wrote: »

I didn't entitle this thread "your opinions on rape" because I didn't want to skew anyones opinions either way. There (probably..) wasn't even planned out intent or a drug other than alcohol involved in this situation. I'll leave it up to you how to define that.
So let's say you're finding out details about this fateful night that we just made up, what is your reaction? I'm looking for off-hand, guttural opinions.. like the first thing you think of.. be that "he's a bastard" or be it "oh come, on she was teasing him all night" or whatever.

What left-field did all that come out of?
You appear to have omitted some necessary boundaries (we must be meant to assume they had sex and had different feelings about that afterwards).

You want opinions on a scenario you have crafted for them but you also want to imagine that they themselves dreamed up the scenario?
No wonder people are confused.
If this is for some "women's studies" thing I'm sure you know what you need to write (the "correct" scenarios and reactions to them).:)

Would you not be better off specifying the scenario (or scenarios - having more than one differing in controlled ways may be much more useful) exactly yourself and then trying to find out for people's "gut" reactions/opinions by means of a set of specific questions?

Doing such a thing here is pointless anyway because you know nothing about who is answering or why.

simu

Are you in tabloid journalist school?

cowan

Right so woman gets all dolled up. You know how they are. Meanwhile all the early bird potential rapists are in the bar. They are already drinking, and by the time woman straightens her hair, gets her clothes sorted, straightens her hair again, puts on her face, straightens her hair again, rings the taxi and straightens her hair, again, then goes to the bar, the potential rapists have about 10 pints in. Woman arrives in bar. Potential rapist 1 throws in the towel and chucks pea and carrotty goodness all over the floor. On seeing this potential rapist 2 decides this is a good plan, and follows suit. The two of them share a taxi back home. That leaves potential rapist 3. Without a wingman, he isn't feeling too awesome, but decides to give it a try. Woman refuses to speak to him. Woman refuses to drink the spiked drink he provides. Woman still refuses to speak to him. Potential rapist 3 is now a sad potential rapist. He then starts to feel woozy. Woman sees he is wobbling on his stool. She feels sorry and gives him a glass of water. He feels worse. She offers to walk him to his taxi. He feels worse and worse. She brings him back to her place and rapes him. She spiked his water.

Take that sexist Ireland.

Havermeyer

You mean there are actually times when surprise buttsecks should NOT be used?

With further pondering on the subject, I suppose it wouldn't really be surprise buttsecks if there were set times for it. I stand corrected.:o

FruitLover

Girls need to do more rapin'

You're letting the side down, ladies, after all the talk of equal rights etc over the years...

anonymiss

cowan wrote: »

Right so woman gets all dolled up. You know how they are. Meanwhile all the early bird potential rapists are in the bar. They are already drinking, and by the time woman straightens her hair, gets her clothes sorted, straightens her hair again, puts on her face, straightens her hair again, rings the taxi and straightens her hair, again, then goes to the bar, the potential rapists have about 10 pints in. Woman arrives in bar. Potential rapist 1 throws in the towel and chucks pea and carrotty goodness all over the floor. On seeing this potential rapist 2 decides this is a good plan, and follows suit. The two of them share a taxi back home. That leaves potential rapist 3. Without a wingman, he isn't feeling too awesome, but decides to give it a try. Woman refuses to speak to him. Woman refuses to drink the spiked drink he provides. Woman still refuses to speak to him. Potential rapist 3 is now a sad potential rapist. He then starts to feel woozy. Woman sees he is wobbling on his stool. She feels sorry and gives him a glass of water. He feels worse. She offers to walk him to his taxi. He feels worse and worse. She brings him back to her place and rapes him. She spiked his water.

Take that sexist Ireland.

haha, I love it

Dave!

She's a tramp, she was wearing a short skirt. Deserved it if you ask me. In fact I hope she gets raped again.

anonymiss

Kazobel wrote: »

F minus minus

how about I tell you what mark I get for it?

You're making it sound like i'm trying to intentionally skew the answers to support my own argument so that I can quote you in my work.

That is not true. I have no motivation to do so. I am not seeking quotes to support an argument. I was simply seeking snippets I could quote.

I concede that I may not have presented the question in the best way, but it was not on purpose.

simu wrote: »

Are you in tabloid journalist school?

um, no :P

Gummy Panda

A guy meets a girl in a bar. They hit it off over a few drinks. He suggests retiring to his place for some extra drinking. They head home in the taxi and upon reaching the house he quickly whisks her upstairs.

He starts to undress and the girl says "I need a favour?" The guy asks what and the girl replies "…Uh I need about tree-fitty."

Tree-fitty. Well, it was about that time that the guy notices that girl was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era. The guy said, "Dammit monster! Get out of my room! I ain't giving you no tree-fitty!." It said, "how about just two-fitty?" The guy replied, "Oh, now it's only two-fitty!! What?! Is there a sale on Loch Ness munchies or something?!"

God damn Loch Ness monster!

AlmightyCushion

Gummy Panda wrote: »

A guy meets a girl in a bar. They hit it off over a few drinks. He suggests retiring to his place for some extra drinking. They head home in the taxi and upon reaching the house he quickly whisks her upstairs.

He starts to undress and the girl says "I need a favour?" The guy asks what and the girl replies "…Uh I need about tree-fitty."

Tree-fitty. Well, it was about that time that the guy notices that girl was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era. The guy said, "Dammit monster! Get out of my room! I ain't giving you no tree-fitty!." It said, "how about just two-fitty?" The guy replied, "Oh, now it's only two-fitty!! What?! Is there a sale on Loch Ness munchies or something?!"

God damn Loch Ness monster!

I gave him a dollar.

FruitLover

Gummy Panda wrote: »

A guy meets a girl in a bar. They hit it off over a few drinks. He suggests retiring to his place for some extra drinking. They head home in the taxi and upon reaching the house he quickly whisks her upstairs.

He starts to undress and the girl says "I need a favour?" The guy asks what and the girl replies "…Uh I need about tree-fitty."

Tree-fitty. Well, it was about that time that the guy notices that girl was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era. The guy said, "Dammit monster! Get out of my room! I ain't giving you no tree-fitty!." It said, "how about just two-fitty?" The guy replied, "Oh, now it's only two-fitty!! What?! Is there a sale on Loch Ness munchies or something?!"

God damn Loch Ness monster!

....

...I'm speechless in both horror and awe.

Good show, sir!