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Mr. Presentable · 11-05-2008 10:04pm #1

You know the one, about the PL not being won on penalties. Out of curiosity, does anyone have the penalties for and against figures for the PL sides this season?

Somebody told me only 1 penalty awarded against Man Utd all season. Surely that can't be right

Helix · 11-05-2008 10:05pm

yup, it is right

just the one pen against them all year

it was just recently too wasnt it

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:07pm

Of course it can be right and it is but don't think for one second that there is any kind of different application of the rules for Man U than there is for other teams.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:10pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Of course it can be right and it is but don't think for one second that there is any kind of different application of the rules for Man U than there is for other teams.

And don't forget Wigan lying down for them today :rolleyes:

Mr. Presentable · 11-05-2008 10:10pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Of course it can be right and it is but don't think for one second that there is any kind of different application of the rules for Man U than there is for other teams.

Would never suggest that. How many awarded against your team, Thanx?

fish fingers · 11-05-2008 10:11pm

oh go to bed t4tf. your just mad and sh1t. your embarresing yourself:(

kmart6 · 11-05-2008 10:14pm

It was the one against Carrick in the Chelsea game for the handball! Woulda been pretty cool to go the whole season not giving one away!

And Collie how did Wigan ly down for them today?! They gave it a very good effort,Heskey had around 5 decent headers!

Pigman II · 11-05-2008 10:14pm

Even if you had the stats you seek then you have to ask yourself "what would it mean anyway"? If Man U spend most of the game attacking or in possession then obviously they're gonna concede less penos.

Mr.Nice Guy · 11-05-2008 10:19pm

Pigman II wrote: »

Even if you had the stats you seek then you have to ask yourself "what would it mean anyway"? If Man U spend most of the game attacking or in possession then obviously they're gonna concede less penos.

Exactly. They only conceded 22 goals in the league all season. How often would the opposition be in United's penalty box terrorising the defence for a penalty to be even given away?

It's a different story in Europe when United are under more pressure. You will recall Roma were awarded a penalty which de Rossi missed (which should never have been given) but why let these things enter into the equation eh?

It's a conspiracy I tells ya! :eek::eek::eek:

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:19pm

are people having trouble reading. I said that it should not suggest that the refs applied the rules differently and the Mancs start jumping up and down too. seems the I'm a Man United ....can drive a tractor ditty is not too far off the mark.

And a good point there from Pigman too.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:21pm

kmart6 wrote: »

And Collie how did Wigan ly down for them today?!

I was being sarcastic but some f*cker has taken away the rolly-eyes thread

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:22pm

nipplenuts wrote: »

Would never suggest that. How many awarded against your team, Thanx?

Dunno nipple but I can remember two off the top of my head, actually make that three.

How many was there ?

Mr.Nice Guy · 11-05-2008 10:22pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

are people having trouble reading. I said that it should not suggest that the refs applied the rules differently and the Mancs start jumping up and down too. seems the I'm a Man United ....can drive a tractor ditty is not too far off the mark.

So that wasn't a sarcastic remark on your part?

Sherifu · 11-05-2008 10:24pm

1 peno is good going.

11-05-2008 10:25pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

are people having trouble reading. I said that it should not suggest that the refs applied the rules differently and the Mancs start jumping up and down too. seems the I'm a Man United ....can drive a tractor ditty is not too far off the mark.

And a good point there from Pigman too.

Yea that clearly was a very poorly veiled remark and even worse is the way you are trying to pretend like it was an honest observation minus sarcasm.

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:27pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

So that wasn't a sarcastic remark on your part?

You probably would have seen some nature of smiley if I was being sarcastic Nice Guy.

Any apologies coming from any Mancs, I doubt it :rolleyes: <- Yes the ones that Collie said was gone.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:30pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

You probably would have seen some nature of smiley if I was being sarcastic Nice Guy.

Any apologies coming from any Mancs, I doubt it :rolleyes: <- Yes the ones that Collie said was gone.

No need to get personal now. That doesn't look like a rolly-eyes thing?

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:33pm

How is that getting personal, you have been getting personal, I have shown you were wrong again tonight. They are the rolly eyes, you just type : rolleyes : without the spaces, that's how I know it's them.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:34pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

How is that getting personal, you have been getting personal, I have shown you were wrong again tonight. They are the rolly eyes, you just type : rolleyes : without the spaces, that's how I know it's them.

How was I getting personal? You were being patronising....and now I'm remembering why I rarely visit the soccer forum. Oh and to show that I was wrong again would imply that you've done it before...enlighten me?

Chong · 11-05-2008 10:35pm

Can I ask a question T4TF?

If Liverpool today were in the same situation as Man U, won the league, Ref had a bad game, and United fans came on here and did nothing but whinge about how the Ref was terrible , what would you say ?

11-05-2008 10:38pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

You probably would have seen some nature of smiley if I was being sarcastic Nice Guy.

Any apologies coming from any Mancs, I doubt it :rolleyes: <- Yes the ones that Collie said was gone.

No we wouldnt expect that cos whether u are prepared to admit it or not, your previous posts today and your general attitude towards United would suggest otherwise. (Im talking of course about u painting yourself in glory on the United thread tonight) Its cool that u hate united, I dont give a sh1t what u think of United tbh or your general opinions or frankly what anyone else thinks of United, everyone has an opinion and the right to express that opinion. Its also cool when PHB (the only other mod whose allegiance I know) doesnt like Liverpool and makes remarks but at least in his case he doesnt pretend like he's making honest assessments when he clearly isnt.

Tbh I really hope that you've been drinkin all day and this is the end product of a day in the pub with your Pool mates where ya's all had a nice big chat about how much ya's hate United etc and now its materialising itself in the way in which u stirred up 4 pages of arguments in the United superthread. Dont the rules about "threadspoiling" state that u have to keep it to the matchday threads and not the superthreads- I clearly remember seeing that a few weeks back when, suprise suprise, you were on making anti-United remars and when called on it, either yourself or PSI said its fair game on the match threads, just that u have to cool it on the superthreads? Surely mods should behave the way the rest of the forum is supposed to, no?

If United fans did what u did tonight in the Pool thread after Pool had won the league (I know how unrealistic this hypothetical situation is but sure just imagine, Im sure you're able to) you would probably ban them.

Sherifu · 11-05-2008 10:39pm

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:40pm

What are you talking about Will. This thread was started by somebody else saying that United only gave away one penalty all season in the prem. That pen was against another one of the big 4, and I said that there was no conspiracy. I assume that this is not what you are referring to on this thread ? I do not think that your post has much relevance on this thread about something entirely different TBH but please feel free to show me the error of my ways.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:41pm

Sherifu wrote: »

lol ****-stirrer

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If United fans did what u did tonight in the Pool thread after Pool had won the league (I know how unrealistic this hypothetical situation is but sure just imagine, Im sure you're able to) you would probably ban them.

Wrong again Neil, don't let it get you down.

Mr. Presentable · 11-05-2008 10:43pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Dunno nipple but I can remember two off the top of my head, actually make that three.

How many was there ?

I have no idea, but there's lots of stattos here and I thought somebody would know. What I didn't think was that every Manc in the forum would start acting all defensive, circling the wagons and such. Is there even a list showing how many goals scored were penos? Like this one for Serie A for example

Trezeguet Juventus 19 (1 pen)
Del Piero Juventus 19 (2)
Borriello Genoa 19 (5)
Di Natale Udinese 17 (2)
Mutu Fiorentina 17 (6)
Amauri Palermo 15 (2)
Kaka Milan 15 (6)
Ibrahimovic Inter 15 (8)
Pandev Lazio 14 (1)
Totti Roma 14 (3)
Cruz Inter 13 (1)
Rocchi Lazio 13 (3)
Quagliarella Udinese 12
Bellucci Sampdoria 12 (2)
Doni Atalanta 12 (4

Chong · 11-05-2008 10:44pm

Fair enough then T4TF I will give it more meaning in its own thread.

11-05-2008 10:47pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Wrong again Neil, don't let it get you down.

Dont worry, nothing is getting me down today, our season isnt over, so Im both overjoyed and excited! :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Sherifu · 11-05-2008 10:48pm

Collie D wrote: »

lol ****-stirrer

I am deeply offended.

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:49pm

Happy for ya, we always have next season

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:50pm

Sherifu wrote: »

I am deeply offended.

Sure you are

Chong · 11-05-2008 10:51pm

Let me just state, my thread asking the question above was deleted.

Sherifu · 11-05-2008 10:51pm

Willstev wrote: »

Fair enough then T4TF I will give it more meaning in its own thread.

'Ask T4TF'

Lulz, good try.

PMs Willstev, use them.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 10:53pm

Willstev wrote: »

Let me just state, my thread asking the question above was deleted.

Credit where it's due. It was pretty damn quick. Spent ten seconds in another thread and came out and it was gone

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 10:55pm

Sherifu wrote: »

'Ask T4TF'

Lulz, good try.

PMs Willstev, use them.

You want to ask me a question then do so via pm, this is not a personal message forum Will.

Chong · 11-05-2008 10:57pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

You want to ask me a question then do so via pm, this is not a personal message forum Will.

Done!

StickyMcGinty · 11-05-2008 10:59pm

Willstev wrote: »

If your team today were in the same situation as Man U, won the league, the ref has a bad game, and your rival fans came on here and did nothing but whinge about how the Ref was terrible , what would you say ?

i'd expect it. this soccer forum is full of be-grudgers, whiners and wind up merchants from every club.

Liverpool win the champions league = cue some united fans saying they were lucky

United win the league = cue some pool fans saying they were lucky

if chelsea win the champions league = cue some united fans "its only the league that matters, europe should only be a bonus etc etc"

i still use this place because there are some excellent posts from excellent boardsies, but the amount of be-grudgery on here is just typical of the irish attitude

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 11:00pm

BTW, for some reason PHB has recently removed that quote from his sig

Collie D · 11-05-2008 11:05pm

StickyMcGinty wrote: »

i'd expect it. this soccer forum is full of be-grudgers, whiners and wind up merchants from every club.

Liverpool win the champions league = cue some united fans saying they were lucky I'll admit that in 2005, Liverpool's game and style of play really suited the Champions' League and they deserved to get to the final - what happened in Istanbul I'll not mention

United win the league = cue some pool fans saying they were lucky There is no way on earth anyone can say United were lucky, best team, simple as
if chelsea win the champions league = cue some united fans "its only the league that matters, europe should only be a bonus etc etc" Praying it won't happen
i still use this place because there are some excellent posts from excellent boardsies, but the amount of be-grudgery on here is just typical of the irish attitude

Having said all that, I'm a United fan and I care about what United do and win...couldn't relaly give a rat's arse what any other team does unless we're playing them or they're in the title race with United.

StickyMcGinty · 11-05-2008 11:10pm

Collie D wrote: »

Having said all that, I'm a United fan and I care about what United do and win...couldn't relaly give a rat's arse what any other team does unless we're playing them or they're in the title race with United.

thats what i'm getting at - thats the attitude to have.

if you win the league, or any other competition for that matter, your the best team. simple as that. if any other club thinks differently, then they have the next year to try and take it off them

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 11:11pm

And the one after that and the one after that and the one after that if you support the team I do.

shane86 · 11-05-2008 11:23pm

nipplenuts wrote: »

You know the one, about the PL not being won on penalties.

Every time I see it it half amuses me and half reminds me of how much I despise the mindset of so many Man U fans, and therefore the club itself (Id like them like anyone else if it wasnt for the Ingerlandism so many Irish fans subscribe to whilst bizarrely hating the England national team at the same time)

Just sayin........

11-05-2008 11:37pm

shane86 wrote: »

Every time I see it it half amuses me and half reminds me of how much I despise the mindset of so many Man U fans, and therefore the club itself (Id like them like anyone else if it wasnt for the Ingerlandism so many Irish fans subscribe to whilst bizarrely hating the England national team at the same time)

Just sayin........

U do realise that most Manc fans, ie the ones who got to games etc, despise the England national team??

Hence the "Republik of Mancunia" banner in the Stretford End?? Or the Ronaldo song? Or the "Argentina" chant for Tevez? etc etc

Well in with your research though!!

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 11:40pm

That is not the case Neil, I have been at games in Mancunia many many times and in fact Ronaldo was booed on his return after his winking after the Rooney booking.

Having worked in Manchester for a couple of years I also know many many Manchester fans from Manchester and they are ardent england fans, well done on your research mind.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 11:42pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

That is not the case Neil, I have been at games in Mancunia many many times and in fact Ronaldo was booed on his return after his winking after the Rooney booking.

Having worked in Manchester for a couple of years I also know many many Manchester fans from Manchester and they are ardent england fans, well done on your research mind.

I assume you haven't been in many Manchester pubs before United games (unless you're like Robert Carlyle's character in The 51st State) but Stand Up if you Hate England is a popular tune. Obvioulsy not everyone but there is a large anti-England element among the United support (and I am referring to the homegrown locals here)

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-05-2008 11:45pm

I worked with the homegrown locals and while I would not go to games I often spent nights in pubs with some of my mates who had not got tickets when I was pulling a late one and it was too late to head home. I have heard that song on occasion but not even a quarter of the anti english sentiment that you and Neil are maintaining exists on this thread.

Collie D · 11-05-2008 11:46pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

I worked with the homegrown locals and while I would not go to games I often spent nights in pubs with some of my mates who had not got tickets when I was pulling a late one and it was too late to head home. I have heard that song on occasion but not even a quarter of the anti english sentiment that you and Neil are maintaining exists on this thread.

Once again you have picked me up on one thing and imply that I'm going on about. I maintain nothing, I merely stated a fact. I also pointed out that it was not a majority. Read posts before you pick them apart please.

Mr.Nice Guy · 11-05-2008 11:48pm

There's plenty of anti-English sentiment within the Man United support and the majority of United fans rallied behind Ronaldo as they did for Beckham when the press and other fans turned on him.

There aren't many 'Englanders' who would chant 'Argentina'. That is obvious. In fact, that's a chant that winds up many of the Englanders from other teams' supporters.

Predhead · 11-05-2008 11:49pm

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

What are you talking about Will. This thread was started by somebody else saying that United only gave away one penalty all season in the prem. That pen was against another one of the big 4, and I said that there was no conspiracy. I assume that this is not what you are referring to on this thread ? I do not think that your post has much relevance on this thread about something entirely different TBH but please feel free to show me the error of my ways.

If you're so concerned how come you haven't mentioned the fact that Everton have only been awarded one peno all season. That one actually came today as well.

shane86 · 11-05-2008 11:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

U do realise that most Manc fans, ie the ones who got to games etc, despise the England national team??

Hence the "Republik of Mancunia" banner in the Stretford End?? Or the Ronaldo song? Or the "Argentina" chant for Tevez? etc etc

Well in with your research though!!

Why the **** do they despise their own national team? If I were English Id probably despise the cockyness of alot of my fellow supporters and the media overhyping our chances, but why would I hate the team? Thats another reason Ive regarded them as a bunch of jokers, the "made England look sh1te" chant.

Predhead · 11-05-2008 11:56pm

shane86 wrote: »

Why the **** do they despise their own national team? If I were English Id probably despise the cockyness of alot of my fellow supporters and the media overhyping our chances, but why would I hate the team? Thats another reason Ive regarded them as a bunch of jokers, the "made England look sh1te" chant.

They don't hate the team. That's absolute rubbish. I know firsthand. Don't take everything at face value. That chant is in jest.

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