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Permanent ban. is it over the Top.??

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    #302
    kaizersoze1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    Really I did not Will, if I had then I could have banned more than one last night. Maybe I am more stupid than Des gives me credit for.

    Why did you not stop repeating your point, when it was as clear as day that it was annoying and winding people up?

    5 people asked you to stop it for christ sake.

    But no, you continued to stick your petty oar in.


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    #303
    Thanx 4 The Fish
    Registered Users Posts: 15,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    None Des. Never have. I was just not surprised.
    Anyway, am off, I will have a peek at this after footy. Have fun.


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    #304
    Thanx 4 The Fish
    Registered Users Posts: 15,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    kaizersoze1980 wrote: »
    Why did you not stop repeating your point, when it was as clear as day that it was annoying and winding people up?

    5 people asked you to stop it for christ sake.

    But no, you continued to stick your petty oar in.
    Did not realise repeating a point was a bannable offence.


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    #305
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    None Des. Never have. I was just not surprised.
    Well done.

    You know what you were at last night.

    And congratulations, you got what you wanted.

    More United bannings.

    It's just a pity you made it so obvious.


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    #306
    Chong
    Registered Users Posts: 8,676 ✭✭✭Chong


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    Really I did not Will, if I had then I could have banned more than one last night if I was planning a trollybanfest. Maybe I am more stupid than Des gives me credit for.
    You said this happened on the night Pool went out of the CL, and fans came on baiting Pool fans. You said and I quote:
    No Manc fans were banned for doing exactly the same thing as you describe when Liverpool won the CL final, on the night Liverpool fans were more interested in the win than whinging about rival fans disagreeing with them.

    We werent bothered until your incessant posting on United threads reached over drive. To be fair, you know what you were doing, and you went about it in the most under handed way, maintaining the whole way through the night that you had congratulated us, when reality your posts were inciting united fans.

    I know of hardly any other rival fans y'day who incited United fans.


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    #307
    kaizersoze1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    Did not realise repeating a point was a bannable offence.

    Repeating a post which was baiting united fans , when you have been asked to stop several times, is imo a bannable offence.


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    #308
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Right folks.

    We've come a long way in this discussion, and here's my objective thinking as a neutral who's been observing.

    T4TF was acting the maggot, but did so in a way that's been done a million times before and is technically not against the charter. There is also nothing concrete saying acting the maggot is worse if your a Mod. (its fairly common sense but nothing official).

    Therefore, nought could really be done to T4TF at the moment as any rules put in place now can't really be enacted retrospectively.

    However; What might stop this problem in the future is if some sort of rule were put in place that inciteful comments by a mod are unacceptable.

    All IMO of course.

    Although I don't agree entirely, this is the jist of my point. Maybe we will amend our own guidelines to suggest that a mod embroiled in a debate, shouldn't ban in the debate, but in all honesty (and here I let out mod sekkrits) T4TF posted asking us to review Kaisers ban as soon as it was made. My own opinion was that were it me, Kaiser would never post in soccer again. Other than that, there is nothing here but mountains, molehills and skin that is far too thin. You guys should never go to a Yankees/Red Sox game, you'd all be crying.
    kaizersoze1980 wrote: »
    Im sorry PSI, but thats rubbish.
    His post was borderline trolling, coming so soon as it did after the final whistle..
    kaizersoze1980 wrote: »
    exactly. that is the issue. and PSI is refusing to acknowledge it.

    Do you read your own posts? You've just replied "exactly" to a post that directly contradicts your own.

    The reaction of United fans stemmed from T4TFs first post.

    I maintain that if the first post looked like this:
    PSI wrote:
    Looks like my auld paranormal instincts were spot on for this one. Congrats Man U. and congrats to the ref who ensured that it was not interesting as he should have sent off Scholes and Wigan should have had a Pen.
    There would have been no calls of troll for that post......

    leninbenjamin wrote: »
    bah. i was going back to one of the Tibetan/Olympic threads where on the same pages you were attacked by some of the pro-Tibet posters and pro-Chinese posters... failed attempt at humour. :(

    .....unless it was on politics.....

    I must say, that thread confused the hell out of me. I guess if both sides call you biased, you must be REALLY impartial :)


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    #309
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Right folks.

    We've come a long way in this discussion, and here's my objective thinking as a neutral who's been observing.

    T4TF was acting the maggot, but did so in a way that's been done a million times before and is technically not against the charter. There is also nothing concrete saying acting the maggot is worse if your a Mod. (its fairly common sense but nothing official).

    Therefore, nought could really be done to T4TF at the moment as any rules put in place now can't really be enacted retrospectively.

    However; What might stop this problem in the future is if some sort of rule were put in place that inciteful comments by a mod are unacceptable.

    All IMO of course.
    This sums it up for me.


    A lot of sharpened axes too.


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    #310
    Gandalf23
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Gandalf23


    I've been following this thread all day with great interest.

    I have no axe to grind as I dont actively follow any Premier League team and I've never posted in the soccer forum.

    I find it absolutely astonishing that people are trying to defend T4TF. He was very obviously trolling, and imho he knew exactly what he was doing. This is disgraceful behaviour for a mod (and in his own forum !!!), and its shocking that its being defended.

    I accept that T4TF may not have broken any direct forum rule, but mods should be held to higher standards than the rest of us. Trolling should not be tolerated from anyone ... and NEVER EVER EVER from a mod in his own forum.

    PSI ... you should hang your head in shame ... look at yourself ... whatever way you try to spin the facts you are defending a mod trolling his own forum. You are beginning to look biased and very pathetic indeed for your efforts.

    The admins need to sort this out now, and not be intimidated by the actual or implied threat of a soccer mod revolt or mass mod resignation.


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    #311
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    T4TF was acting the maggot, but did so in a way that's been done a million times before and is technically not against the charter. There is also nothing concrete saying acting the maggot is worse if your a Mod. (its fairly common sense but nothing official).

    Yes there is - when you are the mod of the forum.

    There is nothing wrong with acting the maggot in other forums (providing you are happy to accept the consequences) but doing it in your own forum is contrary to your duties as the mod of the forum.

    A mod recently banned another mod for banning him from a forum, rightly so he got a bollocking and quickly backtracked. Mods in their own forums have to act to a higher level then users, if they can't accept then its time for a 'so long, fare well' thread in the mod forum.


    Edit: Just noticed that this thread was a group of mods giving out about a user conspiracy!


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    #312
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Gandalf23 wrote: »
    PSI ... you should hang your head in shame ... look at yourself ... whatever way you try to spin the facts you are defending a mod trolling his own forum. You are beginning to look biased and very pathetic indeed for your efforts.

    The admins need to sort this out now, and not be intimidated by the actual or implied threat of a soccer mod revolt or mass mod resignation.

    *yawn*


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    #313
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I vote DesF to replace T4TF as soccer mod.


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    #314
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    rb_ie wrote: »
    I vote DesF to replace T4TF as soccer mod.
    +1


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    #315
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I vote 6th to replace CulT as developer admin.


    DesF alas now has a ban against him :(


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    #316
    Simplicity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    rb_ie wrote: »
    I vote DesF to replace T4TF as soccer mod.

    +1


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    #317
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    PSI wrote: »
    I vote 6th to replace CulT as developer admin.
    +1


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    #318
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    PSI wrote: »
    DesF alas now has a ban against him :(

    ah but sure bans are there to be lifted ;););)

    would des take such a job i wonder?


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    #319
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    would des take such a job i wonder?
    Lol.


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    #320
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    We don't take soccer mods unless they're ban free.


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    #321
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    PSI wrote: »
    We don't take soccer mods unless they're ban free.
    I'm sure an exception could be made for Des, he is a nice guy afterall.

    Either Des or get someone who doesn't give a shíte about soccer i.e completely impartial.


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    #322
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    PSI wrote: »
    I vote 6th to replace CulT as developer admin.

    I'll pass on your support to the relevant peoples.


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    #323
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    PSI wrote: »
    We don't take soccer mods unless they're ban free.

    ah well des is already a mod on alot of forums. i dont think anybody would ever question his credentials as a soccer mod considering he is perhaps the most famous and respected poster on it. this would also be his first ban i would think. it would be a shame that this would stop him of getting this or any prestigious post.


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    #324
    Little-Devil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Little-Devil


    I missed lost tonight reading this which caught my attention as it has many others i imagine. I don’t post that often in the soccer form myself but we all know that Manu & L'pool fans don’t get along and when we both get the opportunity we throw some banter at each other weather its on boards or outside with friends etc. I do think maybe some people are jumping on the ban waging at TFTF and i am not taking sides. I read the soccer form more then i post and i see allot of trolling and insults but its all part of following football to me. I do think that TFTF was baiting Manu fans yesterday but i wouldn’t expect anything else from a TFTF or any other Liverpool fans, i actually expected.

    I purpose that the soccer form is closed after the champions league final and re-opened the middle of July, maybe the Mood’s etc could review the rules during this time and post a sticky up for all current soccer members to read and all new members to agree. I also think that anyone wanting access to the soccer form should not be considered until the new season.

    This is only a suggestion after reading through this thread.

    PS: I can't believe PSI is female, keep up the good work ;)


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    #325
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Little-Devil wrote: »
    I purpose that the soccer form is closed after the champions league final and re-opened the middle of July, maybe the Mood’s etc could review the rules during this time and post a sticky up for all current soccer members to read and all new members to agree. I also think that anyone wanting access to the soccer form should not be considered until the new season.
    Yeah, er, see, there's this thing called the eircom League that will be ongoing for the duration.

    What happens to us?


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    #326
    Little-Devil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Little-Devil


    DesF wrote: »
    Yeah, er, see, there's this thing called the eircom League that will be ongoing for the duration.

    What happens to us?

    Ah i never thought of that DesF, maybe Eircom league could have its own dedicated form like the spurs fans do? It was only a suggestion anyways.

    Goodnight to all, im tired after reading this thread.


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    #327
    ziggy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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    #328
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    DesF wrote: »
    Yeah, er, see, there's this thing called the eircom League that will be ongoing for the duration.

    What happens to us?
    You get the tiny American flags.


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    #329
    _blank_
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    Little-Devil wrote: »
    Ah i never thought of that DesF, maybe Eircom league could have its own dedicated form like the spurs fans do? It was only a suggestion anyways.
    We're already marginalised enough as it is tbh.

    I don't think there needs to be any break-up of the forum at all tbh.


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    #330
    _blank_
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    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Oh yeah, that too.:D


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    #331
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    homerjay2005 wrote:
    well des is already a mod on alot of forums. i dont think anybody would ever question his credentials as a soccer mod considering he is perhaps the most famous and respected poster on it. this would also be his first ban i would think. it would be a shame that this would stop him of getting this or any prestigious post.

    Those are our rules, you can have your opinion, but we have them for our reasons.

    In any case, the people voting for any new soccer mod, should one be appointed, and that isn't likely soon, are the current soccer mods.

    I already have my eye on someone should we ever need a new mod.


    DesF wrote: »
    Yeah, er, see, there's this thing called the eircom League that will be ongoing for the duration.

    What happens to us?

    ROFLOL

    I actually had people staring because I laughed so hard.
    Little-Devil wrote:
    PS: I can't believe PSI is female, keep up the good work

    Keep up the condecension.


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