Premiership Peno's table

MBC

Just wondering is there any were i could find a table that shows a list of Penos awarded Home & Away for each team for the 2007/08 season?

This arises after a discussion in work.

Mad_Max

and begin pool-united fan argument........now!

Chardee MacDennis

MBC wrote: »

Just wondering is there any were i could find a table that shows a list of Penos awarded Home & Away for each team for the 2007/08 season?

This arises after a discussion in work in the aftermath of yesterday's disgraceful performance by Steve Bennett. Awarding Utd a dubios one and not awarding wigan a stonewall one

didnt think uniteds was that dubious tbh...

eddiehead

In fairness, Uniteds was hardly dubious, Wigans should have been given but thats life "These things balance themselves out" is the phrase that will be repeated throughout this thread.
As for your query, I have no idea

MBC

BTW just to add im an arsenal fan........just taught bennett's performance was shocking yesterday......and would be interested to see a table like this.

Xavi6

We were awarded two, both away against Sunderland and Birmingham.

Death or Glory

No, these things 'don't balance themselves out', not when it comes to the Mancs. ONE penalty awarded against them all season, which is absolutely ridiculous. You honestly think they've only committed ONE foul in their own penalty area this season? My arse have they......... Taggart has referees in his pocket, they're afraid to give pens against the Mancs in case they incur his wrath. They could do with growing a set of balls and start standing up to twat, instead of not calling it as they see it

Mad_Max

Hows about people don't actually start another argument about refs, decisions etc etc and just discuss the actual penalties table. Maybe we can construct it ourselves as I don't see one.

Note: These are scored pens. All i can find

United 6 for 1 against (I know ronaldo missed 1)
Chelsea 7 for 3 against.
Liverpool 5 for 4 against
Everton 1 for 4 against
Arsenal 5 for 3 against
Villa 6 for 2 against
Blackburn 5 for 4 against
Pompy 4 for 1 against
City 2 for 2 against
West ham 2 for 2 against
Spurs 4 for 2 against (I know Keane missed two)
Boro 2 for 2 against
Newcastle 4 for 2 against
Wigan 4 for 2 against
Sunderland 1 for 9 against
Bolton 0 for 5 against
Fulham 2 for 5 against
Reading 2 for 3 against
Birmingham 6 for 8 against
Derby 0 for 4 against

Xavi6

Death or Glory wrote: »

No, these things 'don't balance themselves out', not when it comes to the Mancs. ONE penalty awarded against them all season, which is absolutely ridiculous. You honestly think they've only committed ONE foul in their own penalty area this season? My arse have they......... Taggart has referees in his pocket, they're afraid to give pens against the Mancs in case they incur his wrath. They could do with growing a set of balls and start standing up to twat, instead of not calling it as they see it

LOOK OUT FOR THE WORMS!!!!!111!!!!eleventy!!!!111!!!!

MBC

Mad_Max wrote: »

Hows about people don't actually start another argument about refs, decisions etc etc and just discuss the actual penalties table. Maybe we can construct it ourselves as I don't see one.

United were awarded 6 in the league with 1 against.

Good idea......i'll edit my original post.

eddiehead

Edit: just seen posts above, and i dont wana get dragged into one of these arguments.....move along;)

Death or Glory

Everton got awarded their FIRST pen of the season yesterday

Mitch Connor

Death or Glory wrote: »

No, these things 'don't balance themselves out', not when it comes to the Mancs. ONE penalty awarded against them all season, which is absolutely ridiculous. You honestly think they've only committed ONE foul in their own penalty area this season? My arse have they......... Taggart has referees in his pocket, they're afraid to give pens against the Mancs in case they incur his wrath. They could do with growing a set of balls and start standing up to twat, instead of not calling it as they see it

You think only 6 fouls were commited against United in the box over the season?

LuckyLloyd

The old chestnut that things "even themselves out over the course of a season" is bollocks. Does luck in football even itself out overall? Sure. Over a 38 game sample size? lol no.

MBC

Mad_Max wrote: »

Hows about people don't actually start another argument about refs, decisions etc etc and just discuss the actual penalties table. Maybe we can construct it ourselves as I don't see one.

Note: These are scored pens. All i can find

United 6 for 1 against (I know ronaldo missed 1)
Chelsea 7 for 3 against.
Liverpool 5 for 4 against
Everton 1 for 4 against
Arsenal 5 for 3 against
Villa 6 for 2 against
Blackburn 5 for 4 against
Pompy 4 for 1 against
City 2 for 2 against
West ham 2 for 2 against
Spurs 4 for 2 against (I know Keane missed two)
Boro 2 for 2 against
Newcastle 4 for 2 against
Wigan 4 for 2 against
Sunderland 1 for 9 against
Bolton 0 for 5 against
Fulham 2 for 5 against
Reading 2 for 3 against
Birmingham 6 for 8 against
Derby 0 for 4 against

Cheers for this.

eddiehead

Mad_Max wrote: »

Bolton 0 for 5 against
Derby 0 for 4 against

:eek: Conspiracy

Mad_Max

Makes some interesting reading, granted though they are only the scored ones, there could be a few more.

I think it shows that teams around the bottom generally conceed more of them and a lot of them were against the top sides.

Like 3 of uniteds 6 were against wigan, sunderland and Derby. Chelsea also got pens against Sunderland and Derby and also Fulham.

BaZmO*

No surprise that the more attacking teams have ended up with more penalties awarded to them compared to the more defensive/sh1te teams.

leninbenjamin

Jaysus... Sunderland 1, 9 against. no wonder Keane rages at the referees, that's some seriously bad luck.

Death or Glory

I bet McShane was to blame for at least 7 of those 9

Unearthly

Mad_Max wrote: »

Makes some interesting reading, granted though they are only the scored ones, there could be a few more.

I think it shows that teams around the bottom generally conceed more of them and a lot of them were against the top sides.

Like 3 of uniteds 6 were against wigan, sunderland and Derby. Chelsea also got pens against Sunderland and Derby and also Fulham.

There is a very simple answer to this that doesn't involve conspiracys

The top teams of the league have more of the ball, and thus attack more, and hence being in the opposition box more so have more of a chance in getting fouled in the box.

Mad_Max

I wasn't saying there was any at all. Was trying to point out to those who say there is that there isnt

Unearthly

completely mis read it

my bad

AnCapaillMor

A "should've been a penalty\never a penalty" table would be more interesting

Mad_Max

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

A "should've been a penalty\never a penalty" table would be more interesting

And nigh on impossible to compile

kmart6

Anyone see that ex-ref(can't think of his name,Jeff something-or-other)on SSN this morning,he said he would have given the penalty against Rio at first look,but on second look he wouldn't have since it hit his shoulder!

Xavi6

Jeff Winter. Everyone knows he's a tool

kmart6

That's the one!

Galvasean

"these things balace themselves out over the course of the season".
What a kop out. I know its impossible to get EVERY decision right, but this is just an excuse for a poor standard of refereeing.

Mad_Max

Jeff Winter - "a refereeing legend and top media personality"... According to his website anyway :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Mr. Presentable

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

A "should've been a penalty\never a penalty" table would be more interesting

What about this piece of fun

http://www.rightresult.net/index.php

Briefly, it purports to correct the results by fixing ref decisions. Ironically, perhaps, in the adjusted table Man Utd won by five points!

Unearthly

nipplenuts wrote: »

What about this piece of fun

http://www.rightresult.net/index.php

Briefly, it purports to correct the results by fixing ref decisions. Ironically, perhaps, in the adjusted table Man Utd won by five points!

See I don't understand how that works. Penos doesn't automatically mean a goal, offside decisions doesn't mean that player would of scored.

Then there is the way a match would of changed if goals had gone in at certain times.

Mad_Max

That site is a load of tosh tbh.

Mr. Presentable

Unearthly wrote: »

See I don't understand how that works. Penos doesn't automatically mean a goal, offside decisions doesn't mean that player would of scored.

Then there is the way a match would of changed if goals had gone in at certain times.

Yeah.............But it's only a bit of fun - like lads here speculating what might have been. Obviously they have no way to measure a psychological effect, like they don't cover non-sendings off, for example.

grahamo

I just don't go for the conspiracy theories surrounding penalties awarded etc. Statistically the top 4 teams would spend more time attacking, sometimes the defenders will make a late challenge and concede a penalty. The lower teams in the prem spend more time defending. For them to be awarded a penalty they have to make a bit of an effort and at least try to get the ball into the opposition's box.

delija_sever029

Its really stupid to think now situation on table would be different judging by 1 or 2 penalties more or less for some team,i just think theres no conspiracy,if theres were 20 penalties for some team maybe i would think something,but 5-6.....