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    #32
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    davey180 wrote: »
    Yes imo there is alot of bulling going on.Not just from the mods but a large measure from the ops and private messages im subject to a load of hassle eg. Out of one ear through the other.
    As PMs are private but i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo.
    To much jelously is among these forum members eg.One member replys to a post and the other poster will try to do better.
    I get alot of abuse on the PM side which i try to ignore but no success.
    It drives me mad that they get away with it.
    As for a differant topic (Trolling!),i get loads of accusations of it and i feel some members dont understand what it means.
    Troll to me is the form of start of bullying.
    Imagine if i called some a troll for no reason for it they will feel upset and bullied imo.
    There should be some form of system to put the bullys away for good ,its not good for all of us getting bullied unless they can prove it.
    I know not every mod can read everyones post as it would be imposible to look up as thousands are posting every hour!
    So if any member feels they are bullied should press the red triangle button and hope it will get sorted before it gets out of hand.
    Just one more thing i have sent pms to sort out out problems but the ones who have put them on the ignore list is stupid.
    EG: "ive put you in my ignore list so you cant pm me na na na!" Its so damn annoying!
    Lol.


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    #33
    The Artist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Lol.
    you found it funny im glad.:)


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    #34
    LuckyStavros
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭LuckyStavros


    5starpool wrote: »
    Another one he started was in the strategy section about good folds when he shown a Hand History where 'he' folded AA preflop, obviously a troll thread especially given context. If you want to see the quality of his posts then read the non deleted ones.

    That actually happened. I don't think the treatment I have received on the poker forums has been fair tbh. I think there is a hidden agenda in that forum.

    And what's wrong with looking to be staked??? I'm a good player. ;)


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    #35
    LuckyStavros
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭LuckyStavros


    5starpool wrote: »
    A contentious thread where a dublin regular player is outed as owing a load of money to someone and not paying back, this luckystavros posts pretending to be this guy (I know he isn't) and talking crap. Not crap definding this person, just crap like looking to be staked.

    With regards that thread/comment - that actually was me. I believe some imposter game on after my original banning claiming to be me and you took his word for it! For shame!

    If I'm to be honest here I think the Mods etc are out to get me in the poker forums.

    I gave some indepth insight into how I played that tourney with regards studying the form and game of certain players prior to the tourney.


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    #36
    LuckyStavros
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭LuckyStavros


    I'd also like to point out that just because somebody is 'new' to certain forums they are immediately 'targeted'.

    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.


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    #37
    The Artist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    I'd also like to point out that just because somebody is 'new' to certain forums they are immediately 'targeted'.

    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.
    +1


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    #38
    LCPL SWOFFORD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭LCPL SWOFFORD


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Hmm, can't remember what you posted that might have gotten up his nose, so you should probably give an example or not throw wild accusations around.


    LIKE LEAVING A BIG STEAK OUT AND WAITING ON THE DOG TO COME AN GET IT............


    YOUR THE VERY BUM CHUM I WAS ON ABOUT

    YOUR SHOOTING LESS THAN A YEAR AND YOU GO ON LIKE YOUVE BEEN SHOOTING SINCE TIME BEGAN

    ID SAY SPARKS PM BOX IS FULL OF REPORTS FROM YOU WEN PPL DONT AGREE WITH YOU


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    #39
    Nerin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    LuckyStavros wrote: »

    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.
    fascism.jpg

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    proof/links/good examples would be sweet.


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    #40
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism.
    How the hell can anything reek of BOTH Neo-Fascism AND Communism? :confused:


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    #41
    FruitLover
    Registered Users Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    Are you getting to the stage where you feel uncomfortable posting due to the predictable attitudes and responses you will get from certain posters?

    No, but an important reason for that is the fact that I'm a grown-up, and I have more important things going on in my life than what some random nickname on the internet thinks.
    davey180 wrote: »
    i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo

    Careful your tin-foil hat doesn't slip off!
    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

    Ah, that old chestnut! I was just thinking that it had been a good few hours since someone last accused the mods of being fascists/communists/baby eaters.
    randylonghorn wrote: »
    How the hell can anything reek of BOTH Neo-Fascism AND Communism? :confused:

    This caused me to ponder too, but I think it's because the OP doesn't really know what neo-fascism and communism actually mean.


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    #42
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism.

    If they were communist, then wouldn't everyone on boards have been banned?


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    #43
    Nerin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    indeed randy, i agree,the mind boggles, but maybe they are trying to avoid godwins law?

    wiki says:
    Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. The term neo-fascist may apply to groups that express a specific admiration for Benito Mussolini and Italian fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes nationalism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism (see definition), anti-communism, and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a politic epithet. Some post-World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination with fascist ideology and rituals.

    and for communism wiki says:

    Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownershipmeans of production.[1] It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution[2]. Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.[3] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism and Luxemburgism, are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union.     of the


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    #44
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    LCPL SWOFFORD wrote: »
    LIKE LEAVING A BIG STEAK OUT AND WAITING ON THE DOG TO COME AN GET IT............


    YOUR THE VERY BUM CHUM I WAS ON ABOUT

    YOUR SHOOTING LESS THAN A YEAR AND YOU GO ON LIKE YOUVE BEEN SHOOTING SINCE TIME BEGAN

    ID SAY SPARKS PM BOX IS FULL OF REPORTS FROM YOU WEN PPL DONT AGREE WITH YOU

    Actually I very rarely report posts. Now, care to tell me what I did, since I can't recall having had anything to do with you on the shooting forum whatsoever? Also, civility, please.

    Actually, was puzzled, so went and found the only possible thing you could be talking about, so here it goes.

    First, a synopsis:
    - A guy is a little bemused at being asked to do a safety course for an air rifle licence, which isn't something I'd heard being asked before, but isn't unreasonable and certainly isn't beyond the remit of the law.
    - The fact that it's perfectly legal for a Superintendent to require it is mentioned
    - LCPL SWOFFORD enters:
    LCPL SWOFFORD wrote:
    no law states you must have undergone a firearms proficiency course in order to successfully aqcuire a firearms licence so if you dont want to do one go and see your solicitor (your perfectly within your rights to do this)

    if you dont have a criminal record or have been diagnosed with clinical depression or mental illness or indeed have serious court cases pending and all your permissions and paperwork are legit then they dont have a case against granting you a licence if it goes to court

    -You were then told that you didn't really have the right end of the stick:
    It Wasn't Me! wrote:
    A superintendent is entirely within his rights to require that your do a safety and competency test as a prerequisite to granting a firearms cert. Going to court because you don't want to perform such a simple task (and you really think it's going to look good in court when you say you don't want to do a safety course for a gun licence?) will almost inevitably mean you lose. The Superintendent's right to impose such conditions will be upheld.

    and
    Sparks wrote:
    Wrong. You are within your rights to see your solicitor, obviously, but he'll tell you the same thing that's been said here, by which I mean, there isn't a specific law that specificly says you have to have undergone a proficiency course. Instead, there is Section 4(3)(b) in the new Firearms Act:
    Quote:
    3) An applicant for a firearm certificate shall supply to the issuing person the information requested in the application form and such further information as the issuing person may require in the performance of the person’s functions under this Act, including, in particular—
    ...
    (b) proof of competence in the use of the firearm concerned,
    And prior to this, there is the ruling of the High Court in Dunne v Donohue (as upheld by the Supreme Court) which says that the Super can impose preconditions not in the Act on an individual basis:
    Quote:
    I am of the opinion that the provisions of [s.4(b)] of the 1925 Act are such as not to restrict the ambit to consideration as to the personal attributes of an applicant for a firearm certificate but may relate to the circumstances in which he/she may have a firearm in his/her possession without danger to the public safety or to the peace... I wish to state that this court expresses no concluded view as to how far a superintendent may go in the context of the exercise of his powers under s.4(b) of the Act of 1925 other than indicating that he may not impose preconditions of the nature sought to be imposed by the commissioner in this case and the commissioner is not entitled to interfere with the superintendent in the exercise of his functions under the Act.

    So what happened is, you jumped in, said something, were told you were wrong, were given the correct information, and now you're unhappy. Care to illustrate anything else?


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    #45
    LCPL SWOFFORD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭LCPL SWOFFORD


    Care to illustrate anything else?[/quote]


    YEAH YOUR A DICKHEAD LICKARSE....

    EVERYONE I TALK TO AT SHOOTS TALKS ABOUT YOU SPARKS AND ONE OR TWO OTHERS RUINING THE SHOOTING FORUM

    I REGISTERED PURELY TO WIND SPARKS UP BECAUSE ID NEVER HEARD OF HIM TILL RECENTLY AND PEOPLE WERE RIGHT

    ON MY THIRD USERNAME AND YOU AND HIM TAKE THE BAIT EVERY TIME

    HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A COMPETITION IN THE FUTURE....

    KEEP LICKING AND HE WILL MAKE YOU A MOD SOON AND THEN YOUR LIFE WILL BE COMPLETE...

    YOU SAD ****ER


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    #46
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    LCPL SWOFFORD wrote: »
    YEAH YOUR A DICKHEAD LICKARSE....

    EVERYONE I TALK TO AT SHOOTS TALKS ABOUT YOU SPARKS AND ONE OR TWO OTHERS RUINING THE SHOOTING FORUM

    I REGISTERED PURELY TO WIND SPARKS UP BECAUSE ID NEVER HEARD OF HIM TILL RECENTLY AND PEOPLE WERE RIGHT

    ON MY THIRD USERNAME AND YOU AND HIM TAKE THE BAIT EVERY TIME

    HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A COMPETITION IN THE FUTURE....

    KEEP LICKING AND HE WILL MAKE YOU A MOD SOON AND THEN YOUR LIFE WILL BE COMPLETE...

    YOU SAD ****ER

    That's nice. Maybe you might want to go to shoots where people have better things to talk about than personalities they don't know on the internet. Just a thought. Might also want to get better hobbies.


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    #47
    smashey
    Registered Users Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.
    Don't let that get you down. The next ban you receive will reek of righteousness.


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    #48
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    davey180 wrote:
    As PMs are private but i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo.

    Davey, she doesn't fancy you, k?


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    #49
    The Artist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    RoundyMooney wrote: »
    Davey, she doesn't fancy you, k?
    oh! who my secret admirer
    K?


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    #50
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,079 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    K?


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    #51
    Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 11,196 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Davey, for the record, mods can't see your pm's, only the admins can. That being the owners of the site.


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    #52
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    crash_000 wrote: »
    Davey, for the record, mods can't see your pm's, only the admins can. That being the owners of the site.
    And only if they go looking ... which they're very unlikely to do unless there is a serious problem ... e.g. investigation by the gardai into serious misconduct or some such.

    People aren't half as bad as you think, if you just try not to rub them up the wrong way all the time ...


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    #53
    Black Swan
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,258 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    LuckyStavros wrote: »
    I'm wondering what's the general consensus on the subject of bullying on this website. Do you find it common on the site?
    Bullying is not "common" to boards.ie. As websites go, this is one of the best.
    LuckyStavros wrote:
    Do you feel yourself subjected to bullying from other users? Are you getting to the stage where you feel uncomfortable posting due to the predictable attitudes and responses you will get from certain posters?
    There is a balance between freedom of speech, anonymity, rules of conduct, and personal expression here. Sometimes someone will get a bit personal, you can then shrug it off, play along, or report them. You have choices.
    LuckyStavros wrote:
    For example I'm constantly harrassed and have the piss taken out of me on the poker forum by certain individuals (I have raised this with the mods). It's been happening for up to 6 months now. Users have been temporarily banned, one has been a constant repeat offender, I've been banned myself for reacting inappropriately on one occasion
    Well, poker is not the only forum on boards. Each is unique in many ways. Some are more forgiving than others regarding individual conduct. If poker is the most important topic for you, there are other poker sites all over the web, if this particular one is troublesome. The web lets you shop around. Once again, you have choices.
    LuckyStavros wrote:
    It's been happening for up to 6 months now.
    Yet you show a May 2008 join date with 11 posts? Geeeee, the mods and admins have been very nice to you, indeed?


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    #54
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,220 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Caps lock for the lose. Bannable offense in my book.


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    #55
    Sparks
    Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Caps lock for the lose. Bannable offense in my book.
    Not really.
    On the other hand, re-registering to get round a ban is.
    And PMing a mod to say that you know where they live and that it ain't that far away (after having discussed what kind of fullbore hunting rifle you own) is cause for me to make a quick phone call to the local Firearms Officer after asking O2 to verify the address a certain 3G modem card is registered to.
    I don't know who it was that said mods get bullied in here, but after several lawsuit threats and now our happy caps-locked friend offering to come round to my home (not quite so funny a thing on the shooting forum, by the way), I'd have to agree with them.


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    #56
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Jesus!

    Bloody idiot!

    And I obviously don't mean Sparks ...


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    #57
    reregholdsworth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭reregholdsworth


    Sparks wrote: »
    Not really.
    On the other hand, re-registering to get round a ban is.
    And PMing a mod to say that you know where they live and that it ain't that far away (after having discussed what kind of fullbore hunting rifle you own) is cause for me to make a quick phone call to the local Firearms Officer after asking O2 to verify the address a certain 3G modem card is registered to.
    I don't know who it was that said mods get bullied in here, but after several lawsuit threats and now our happy caps-locked friend offering to come round to my home (not quite so funny a thing on the shooting forum, by the way), I'd have to agree with them.


    would it be appropriate to comment that the internet is serious business at this point?


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    #58
    Matt Holck
    Registered Users Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Matt Holck


    Ste05 wrote: »
    Yup, troll.

    Here's another deleted thread started by him for the admins/smods to look at should they like to see more evidence.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055291543

    (I'll just say he didn't ask my permission to start that thread.)

    [for poker forum readers: it was a deconstruction thread and some stupid comments about TV etc.]

    I can't read it


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    #59
    Matt Holck
    Registered Users Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Matt Holck


    davey180 wrote: »
    One member replys to a post and the other poster will try to do better.

    that's a good thing


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    #60
    Matt Holck
    Registered Users Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭Matt Holck


    Sparks wrote: »
    Not really.
    On the other hand, re-registering to get round a ban is.
    something about respect or honor or integrity
    or why would one want to post where they've been banned ?


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    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,220 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Matt Holck wrote: »
    something about respect or honor or integrity
    or why would one want to post where they've been banned ?

    its pretty fun on the PULSE website.


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