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Clatter , clatter bang, oh it's the Brown bin.

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    #122
    daymobrew
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    greatgoal wrote: »
    i rang county hall environment section and they confirmed it when i got my bin 7 months ago.also the materials in the brown bin dont go to landfill they go to midland waste in navan for composting,who also confirmed that bio bags are acceptable.
    Thanks for the clarification.
    Since they are composted, it would be great if they took biodegradable nappies.


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    #123
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Further to this: I just rang Fingal Co. Co. about the biodegradable bags in the brown bin question. What I was told was that they don't accept any plastics except for biodegradable bags which specifically state that they biodegrade between 10 and 40 days. He said unless they state that they won't be accepted (meaning collected) and that the binmen know by the colour of the bags.

    (I know nothing about the degredation process but 10 to 40 days sounds pretty quick for a plastic bag to degrade to me. I never even noticed if there was such a guideline on the bags I bought.)

    He said they do not recommend the use of any plastics in the bin. I told him I'd bought some and told him the type and he just said he won't recommend any type/make as they don't really want people using any plastic bags in the brown bins.

    Sounds all very grey to me, but I suppose that's typical of the civil service. ;)

    Not sure I can face using the brown bin for food scraps anymore without using bags as I'm nearly blowing chunks every time I go near it these days.


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    #124
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,250 ✭✭✭ongarite


    I got the bio-degradable in Dunnes based on recommendation here in this thread. They're light green bags, packaging states they will decompose in 40 days alright.

    Found the link again:
    http://greensax.com/


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    #125
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Good to know. Seeing as you are "Ongarite", I presume the Dunnes in Ongar is where you got them? :D It's my nearest Dunnes, hence I ask.

    The ones I got are Killeen Aware biodegradable sacks. I threw out the wrapper for them (in the green bin before anyone asks ;) ) but I don't remember seeing anything about how long it would take them to decompose.


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    #126
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,250 ✭✭✭ongarite


    No, didn't have them in Dunnes in Ongar. Got them in the Dunnes in Blanch SC.


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    #127
    gollyitsolly
    Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    If fcc gave everybody a waste disposable unit under their sink and upgraded their waste depots, wouldnt it make life a lot easier and cleaner. I mean the cost of these plastic bins and bags to the enviroment in the long run will be catastrophic. Saw an article on tv a while ago where some country had run out of bins because the place that made them went on strike. Disgusting mess everywhere all over the towns.


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    #128
    BostonB
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    Need to address the issue of all the packaging, ads and flyers.


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    #129
    gollyitsolly
    Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    BostonB wrote: »
    Need to address the issue of all the packaging, ads and flyers.
    Which goes back to the big guys, the manufacterers. They cant be penalized too much because they may leave the country,so we the little people have to bear the brunt of the costs. Its just another tax. Just wait folks,the water tax is on its way too:)


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    #130
    daymobrew
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    gollyitsolly wrote: »
    If fcc gave everybody a waste disposable unit under their sink and upgraded their waste depots, wouldnt it make life a lot easier and cleaner.
    That will simply push the waste handling to the sewage treatment plants. The stuff you put in a waste disposal unit tends to be organic i.e. could be put into a compost bin or the brown bin.
    gollyitsolly wrote: »
    Saw an article on tv a while ago where some country had run out of bins because the place that made them went on strike. Disgusting mess everywhere all over the towns.
    That sounds like it might have been the strike in Naples in May 2007.
    BostonB wrote:
    Need to address the issue of all the packaging, ads and flyers.
    Agreed. Look at the Repak site - it is really just a lame way for businesses to off-load their responsibilities. Whatever legislation allows Repak to exist is probably to blame i.e. the Government that wrote that relevant law has to take some of the blame.


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