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N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭highwaymaniac


    Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period

    So not roadbridge then as claimed on here!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    So not roadbridge then as claimed on here!!


    nowhere near!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 InGoochWeTrust


    Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period

    Source?


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Source?

    Heard the same a few weeks ago.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    annfield1978 has a very impressive track record of posting here without authoritative sources, so I won’t question it for a second.

    It’s a bit odd those two getting such a big scheme being such small fish but all the best to them. Can’t wait to see diggers on the ground


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭serfboard


    marno21 wrote: »
    It’s a bit odd those two getting such a big scheme being such small fish but all the best to them.
    Would you prefer if BAM got it? Because the Taoiseach wouldn't!
    There are one or two contractors who, quite frankly, I would not like to see get a public contract again in this State.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    serfboard wrote: »
    Would you prefer if BAM got it? Because the Taoiseach wouldn't!

    I have no issue with them getting it just surprised is all. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    marno21 wrote: »
    I have no issue with them getting it just surprised is all. :)

    BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price

    Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.


    Wills Bros are one of the largest road building companies in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    Wills Bros are one of the largest road building companies in Ireland.

    Do they trade under a different name?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Do they trade under a different name?
    http://www.willsbros.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    KOR101 wrote: »

    I can’t for the life of me place them


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.

    I have yet to see any issues with BAM on a road project. They’ve completed all their recent road contracts with no issues (N25 New Ross aside which is a tricky build)


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,580 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Wills had a very strong reputation for speed and quality during the MIU rollout


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    marno21 wrote: »
    I have yet to see any issues with BAM on a road project. They’ve completed all their recent road contracts with no issues (N25 New Ross aside which is a tricky build)

    They are just out of their depth with the Cork Events Centre then?


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    They are just out of their depth with the Cork Events Centre then?

    BAM have a bad reputation for pricing low and then screwing with a long list of extras at the end. Their work is undeniably to standard though. Wills did a number of projects for us in Kerry over the years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Sixsandsevens


    Very strange to give such a big scheme to small-sized contractors like Jons/Craddocks. They will be busy Jons have another road job in Meath I hear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Quackster wrote: »
    BAM have a bad reputation for pricing low and then screwing with a long list of extras at the end.
    Indeed - the Taoiseach said as much in the Dail when he stated that "companies have been low-balling" the State when bidding for major projects.
    BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price
    I think that this is a very interesting development. This indicates that the state has learned, to its cost, not to pick the lowest tender.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,405 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Had the “pleasure” for the first time driving this road- god it’s an horrific stretch of awful unrelenting crap road. I’d have to say it’s worse than say the old N9 between Kilkenny and Waterford which was my national primary benchmark of terrible roads- it’s narrower and more winding with two never ending small towns either end. Must be accidents on it a lot. The 80kmh limit doesn’t even feel comfortable or safe. Most of the upgraded bits out from Killarney are great though


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    I heard today that John Paul construction have the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Truckermal wrote: »
    I heard today that John Paul construction have the job.

    Any chance they'll break ground by year's end?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Truckermal wrote: »
    I heard today that John Paul construction have the job.

    Nope! John Cradock Ltd /Jons Civil Engineering JV are the preferred bidder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Truckermal wrote: »
    I heard today that John Paul construction have the job.
    tonc76 wrote: »


    Nope! John Cradock Ltd /Jons Civil Engineering JV are the preferred bidder

    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    :confused::confused::confused:

    Someone mixing up their Johns/Jons :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    tonc76 wrote: »


    Nope! John Cradock Ltd /Jons Civil Engineering JV are the preferred bidder

    Oops that was it I did met him in the pub after a few scoops!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Fingers crossed for end of year and that the snails can be accommodated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Those are Kerry snails, the responsibility of the Healy Raes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    The Kerry Slug that lives in Cork, mother of god :rolleyes:


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