Afterhours hatefest

lostexpectation

why is this thread in afterhours ?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055297244

humanji

Because it doesn't fit in the Ladies Lounge?

aidan_walsh

Stormfront didn't want it.

Dinter

In my (limited) experience of After Hours it seems to me that if all references to the Roma were replaced with "big, fat, warmongering, obnoxious Americans" there'd be far less people whining about the thread.

People should see try and see a thread for what it is, i.e. people's frustrations with a particular, easily identifiable group of people and not the cause celebre they wish it was.

Sherifu

No other forum would take it. Even TCN laughed at it.

AARRRGH

Pretending the Irish Roma population are decent members of society is retarded.

I have never seen a single Roma apply for a job, and I run a load of jobsites. I've seen hundreds of thousands of CVs.

They don't want to work. They only take from our society.

It is not racist/whatever to admit this.

I can understand why people have an issue with them.

If the thread was about killing them or some other illegal act, that'd be a totally different matter.

challengemaster

Sherifu wrote: »

No other forum would take it. Even TCN laughed at it.

That we did.. Oo-Rah!

Rb

lostexpectation wrote: »

why is this thread in afterhours ?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055297244

A Bleeding Hearts/Lets Be As Pc As Can Be forum hasn't been set up yet.

Dinter

dublindude wrote: »

Pretending the Irish Roma population are decent members of society is retarded.

I have never seen a single Roma apply for a job, and I run a load of jobsites. I've seen hundreds of thousands of CVs.

They don't want to work. They only take from our society.

It is not racist/whatever to admit this.

I can understand why people have an issue with them.

Yes but you have to realise it's just so much easier to use the racist card and that way circumvent everyone's points that don't agree with your own.
I think it should also be noted that there is a poll running on what sort of experiences boards members have had with the Roma. At the moment it stands at:

Good, friendly nice helpful people, I would have them as my neighbour! = 3

Bad, they were begging, trying to rip me or someone else off! = 125

I think that explains why this thread deserves airtime on a current affairs board.

dublindude wrote: »

If the thread was about killing them or some other illegal act, that'd be a totally different matter.

+1

Overheal

Dinter wrote: »

In my (limited) experience of After Hours it seems to me that if all references to the Roma were replaced with "big, fat, warmongering, obnoxious Americans" there'd be far less people whining about the thread.

But the great thing about americans in a war, digital or otherwise? It only takes one of us to push a button.

I do enough whining for thousands, thank you very much. You should have seen the racial state of AH before I started posting in it. That was racist alright.

Terry

Overheal wrote: »

But the great thing about americans in a war, digital or otherwise? It only takes one of us to push a button.

And that's why the world hates America.
Not what you said, but how you said it.

I do enough whining for thousands, thank you very much.

He's not lying.

Overheal

The whole pride thing? There's very little to be proud of when you are American, lets be fair. I just don't think its necessary to butcher it to death when its down. Especially with fat ugly stupid etc. tripe.

Terry

Overheal wrote: »

The whole pride thing? There's very little to be proud of when you are American, lets be fair. I just don't think its necessary to butcher it to death when its down. Especially with fat ugly stupid etc. tripe.

Pay no mind to me.
I'm a drunken Irish man.

Overheal

Ah now. Its hard to tell if youre being sarcastic or drunk. You do both a lot usually with amusing results by your own admission.

Terry

Drunk.

Overheal

Enjoy the Match.

Terry

Overheal wrote: »

Enjoy the Match.

It's over. The scum won*. Fluked a few penalties and are now mourning dead people.















































I supported Liverpool when I was a kid.

Dinter

Overheal wrote: »

The whole pride thing? There's very little to be proud of when you are American, lets be fair. I just don't think its necessary to butcher it to death when its down. Especially with fat ugly stupid etc. tripe.

That's my point though Overheal.

Anything can be said about Americans and nobody gives a rats arse because the stereotypical American is not a slightly different shade to me. Personally I think it's a crock!

Imo American's play an important role in ensuring that most of the maddest members of the world concentrate on them.

WhiteWashMan

lostexpectation wrote: »

why is this thread in afterhours ?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055297244

where would you prefer it to be, and why are you worried about where it is anyway?

tbh

^^^^^^^^^^^

FYI: this is a loaded question.

Maximilian

Its very easy to self-righteously proclaim those Roma threads to be racist or xenophobic and that's what a number of people have in fact done. Forget debate - just brand everyone.

The simple undeniable fact is that Roma piss people off. People are pissed off with them not because they are racist but because that is their experience. There's simply no point in denying it, so why not debate it? That's one the reasons Boards exists.

The thread the OP mentions was very interesting before it was sidetracked by a few people throwing "OMG racist" accusations and what not.

Doctor DooM

What is very annoying in that thread for me is myself and others are constantly being called "bleeding heart liberals" meant in an extremely insulting way for merely stating that anyone regardless of ethnicity should be judged on an individual basis.
Bear in mind the "pro roma" people (who aren't pro anyone, thats kind of the point) are actually agreeing thieves and what not SHOULD be flung out. No one wants to actually discuss it: Its too much fun to take a pop at people who don't agree with the masses. "Political Correctness gone mad!" is apparently stating that mob rule support by organised crime is bad, mmkay(the actual point of the thread.)

First time someone is called a racist, they're banned.



(I know it's a rule in AH, but it is a spectacularly hate filled thread.)

faceman

Its funny how things come full circle.

There was a time if you spoke out about an issue with a member of a foreign community you are immediately branded a racist.

Now if you speak out to say not everyone is the same etc etc, you are branded a do-gooder/bleeding heart!

Funny that.

Anyway what are we talking about again, gypsies or the ladies lounge? I dont think we can generalise and say they are both the same?

Doctor DooM

faceman wrote: »

Its funny how things come full circle.

There was a time if you spoke out about an issue with a member of a foreign community you are immediately branded a racist.

Now if you speak out to say not everyone is the same etc etc, you are branded a do-gooder/bleeding heart!

Funny that.

Anyway what are we talking about again, gypsies or the ladies lounge? I dont think we can generalise and say they are both the same?

Don't be using that word, according to Degsy its evil.

TerrorFirmer

This thread title makes me giggle.

Karoma

lostexpectation wrote: »

why is this thread in afterhours ?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055297244

I haven't read the rest of the thread properly yet, sorry if I'm missing something, but:
I didn't see your username again so I'll ask: Why shouldn't it be in AH? You didn't say. I also don't see a single reported post about it, so it's not said there either.

Marcus.Aurelius

I can't see any issue here. We have a socially self-excluded group of people who cannot seek asylum as members of the EU, or seek social welfare payments because of our rule (to prohibit them in the first place).

Yet they refuse to work, and drive the crime rate (wherever they are) sky high, disproportionate to the local population. They beg, irritating drivers, manipulate everyone and endanger their children while dodging cars on the M50 off-ramps, begging!! I mean, what the hell??

The thread is justified as an argument. And its nice to see the bleeding hearts and other self-delusionary morons getting a whack of the good-sense-stick

Doctor DooM

maoleary wrote: »

I can't see any issue here. We have a socially self-excluded group of people who cannot seek asylum as members of the EU, or seek social welfare payments because of our rule (to prohibit them in the first place).

Yet they refuse to work, and drive the crime rate (wherever they are) sky high, disproportionate to the local population. They beg, irritating drivers, manipulate everyone and endanger their children while dodging cars on the M50 off-ramps, begging!! I mean, what the hell??

The thread is justified as an argument. And its nice to see the bleeding hearts and other self-delusionary morons getting a whack of the good-sense-stick

Actually, if you read the thread closely, you'll see the "self delusionary morons" are the ones asking what people would like to do about it, instead of throwing insults around- just like the one you just made.

Marcus.Aurelius

SDooM wrote: »

Actually, if you read the thread closely, you'll see the "self delusionary morons" are the ones asking what people would like to do about it, instead of throwing insults around- just like the one you just made.

I think the other side made their own solutions clear. Arrest them for child endangerment, then deport them for not having sufficient means to care for themselves, as evidenced by their behaviour. Might have to change a few pieces of legislation, ignore the eurocrats a bit, pay off a few whingers. But in the end, it could be done quite well.

In the end, the thread is justified and is a good measure of anti-sponger sentiment growing in Ireland. And we're going OT by arguing.

Doctor DooM

maoleary wrote: »

I think the other side made their own solutions clear. Arrest them for child endangerment, then deport them for not having sufficient means to care for themselves, as evidenced by their behaviour. Might have to change a few pieces of legislation, ignore the eurocrats a bit, pay off a few whingers. But in the end, it could be done quite well.

In the end, the thread is justified and is a good measure of anti-sponger sentiment growing in Ireland. And we're going OT by arguing.

This is the crux of the issue of the point of nexus of the thing:

The "bleeding liberals" and "morons" actually agreed with that. No problem at all with it. Stated many, many times. Of course, people with an agenda didn't let it get in the way of good ol bashing people with different opinions to them.

It is funny how the world turns.

Sam Vimes

maoleary wrote: »

I think the other side made their own solutions clear. Arrest them for child endangerment, then deport them for not having sufficient means to care for themselves, as evidenced by their behaviour. Might have to change a few pieces of legislation, ignore the eurocrats a bit, pay off a few whingers. But in the end, it could be done quite well.

In the end, the thread is justified and is a good measure of anti-sponger sentiment growing in Ireland. And we're going OT by arguing.

that is our solution too. we just don't want people to arrest and deport people who haven't actually done anything wrong, simply because of their ethnicity, ie make sure these individual roma people are actually endangering their children before deporting them, rather than saying "you're a roma, therefore you must be endangering your children. f*ck off out of here"