Manchester United Transfer Rumours/Discussion 2008/2009

Mitch Connor

i think i read a piece about/from Cantona a few years back where he said he had originally been intersted in management, but feels himself and football have drifted apart in a way the would stop him being a manager. He said he would only become a manager on his terms; at a club that would allow him to follow his own philosophy of football, and he doesn't think he would be able to find a club that would allow him to do it.

I also remember there being talk that fergie offered him a role at the club starting with the kids but nothing ever came of it.

kryogen

Dont think Cantona would have any interest in management at the moment anyway, he did say he lost touch with football in that way. dont know myself whether he would be suited to management anyway, id lean towards him not being up to it though if i was having a bet tbh

great player in my eyes, but didnt have the right personality for management

Sizzler

Aaron Ramsey signs for Arsenal.

Only time will tell if its a loss

Killme00

Sizzler wrote: »

Aaron Ramsey signs for Arsenal.

Only time will tell if its a loss

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/7445528.stm

True, only time will tell

Dave!

Balls

grames_bond

oh come on!! what did they offer him that we couldnt? first team football? doubtful!

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grames_bond wrote: »

oh come on!! what did they offer him that we couldnt? first team football? doubtful!

A track record of youngsters being given a chance in the first team squad, which United have been sadly lacking in the last few seasons.

Be it for right or wrong.

The latest examples are Rossi and Pique.

Boggles

Unfortunately there seems to be no room for blooding youngsters especially at the top of the prem league, I don't think Chelsea gave too many opportunities to young reserves.

I don't really see how the problem can be addressed sufficiently IMO, United only had a couple of nothing matches this season and Ferguson did take the opportunity to play the youth, it is a draw back of success I'm afraid.

ShiverinEskimo

DesF wrote: »

A track record of youngsters being given a chance in the first team squad, which United have been sadly lacking in the last few seasons.

Be it for right or wrong.

The latest examples are Rossi and Pique.

Exactly - Arsenal struggled for cover this season when Hleb and Rosicky got injured and they've lost flamini. Fabregas gave it 110% and looked physically exhausted at times. For a young budding midfielder Arsenal is definately the better option given that situation.

Beats having to compete with a packed Man U midfield.

grames_bond

ye i suppose you're right, i just wanted a bit of a moan!

fergie: hey arsene we were lookin to sign that kid
arsene: uuuuh i did not see you!

Mikeyt086

Surely Giggsy should have had a word.

Nalz

Ah he could be the next Frannie Jefferini anyways

ShiverinEskimo

Trilla wrote: »

Ah he could be the next Frannie Jefferini anyways

God I forgot he existed. I hated him so much when he was with the arse. So much.

genericgoon

grames_bond wrote: »

ye i suppose you're right, i just wanted a bit of a moan!

fergie: hey arsene we were lookin to sign that kid
arsene: uuuuh i did not see you!

I laughed. Although that may be becuase I imagined that exchange in their 'Im on Setanta Sports' voices.

grames_bond

genericgoon wrote: »

I laughed. Although that may be becuase I imagined that exchange in their 'Im on Setanta Sports' voices.

exactly, i htink that show helps to make all managers more comical!

Smegball

Sign Villa now please:):

corcaighcailin9

Like the look of him too and was thinking he might be a good addition to our squad but anyones alse think he's a little bit on the small side and maybe a little too like what we have already?

ghouldaddy07

I think him and rooney upfront would be unstopable anyone wana go over to england and beg fergie to sign him?

corcaighcailin9

I'd say he's a bit more concerned with trying to keep our little primadonna at the mo tbh

ShoulderChip

ha i knew ye would be on here talking about villa instamtly, seems a bit fickle no?

corcaighcailin9

No just that we obviously need a striker and he's after a move to a top club. He's had a good game today. It ain't rocket science pal

kmart6

corcaighcailin9 wrote: »

It ain't rocket science pal

And it isn't rocket since to figure out that Torres can be putting in a word for Liverpool, we have nobody!

Smegball

ShoulderChip wrote: »

ha i knew ye would be on here talking about villa instamtly, seems a bit fickle no?

Ermm, no because I've been saying since end of last season I wanted Villa.

ShiverinEskimo

Liverpool fooled one class striker into joining them, they'll not fool another.

Besides, if was moving to England wouldn't you want your first season to involve defending a domestic and european title.

NaiveMelodies

What about Ibrahimovic?

Hes a bigger presence, but if is he enough of a target man to complement rooney and tevez???
With Drogba prob going to Inter, he might be up for sale..

ShiverinEskimo

only1stevo wrote: »

What about Ibrahimovic?

Hes a bigger presence, but if is he enough of a target man to complement rooney and tevez???
With Drogba prob going to Inter, he might be up for sale..

He was ****e against the pool in the champs league and bar that goal tonight didn't impress me. Not a natural born striker imo.

Mitch Connor

my 'retro' (94/95, 95/96 seasons) United jerseys arrived today. BLOODY DELIGHTED.

delija_sever029

only1stevo wrote: »

What about Ibrahimovic?

Hes a bigger presence, but if is he enough of a target man to complement rooney and tevez???
With Drogba prob going to Inter, he might be up for sale..

He signed new contract with Inter which makes him 2nd most payed player on the world

NaiveMelodies

delija_sever029 wrote: »

He signed new contract with Inter which makes him 2nd most payed player on the world

Ah well, hes very like Berbatov lots of skill, and a moaner.

Boggles

Villa is too similar to what we have already, I'd also hazard a guess and say a few of ye on here would have got a couple of goals against that Russian defense, shocking! As for Liverpool signing him, unless it is on higher purchase it is not going to happen.

Ibrahimovic only plays when he wants to. Extremely talented but by all accounts a moody bollix.

Looks like we are not going to see much of The Hunter in this tournament, which is probably a good thing price wise.

Nalz

Boggles wrote: »

Ibrahimovic only plays when he wants to.

Youtube footballer

Skud

Everyone on about villa but what about david silva, we could do with another winger also. Although striker needs to be top priority.

Wouldnt mind see us shell out for either of them. Yes villa is similar to what we have already but he'll get goals and I think manucho and even keeping mr glass (just incase the virgin mary appears to him and heals him miraciously with a magic sponge) or campbell might be another option. The team plays best with quick players in it. A tall target man is just a seperate dimension we could do with occassionally, doesnt mean we need 2 or 3 of them since we do have one (manucho already). Before anyone says he is unproven - he played well enough for fergie and carlos to sign him during a trial - he scored a good few goals in the AFC, and looked head and shoulders above most of the players he played with and against. Signing an alternative is likely to happen, which would bring our strikeforce to 4. All we need is a consistent goal scorer to be brought in.

Boggles

Skud wrote: »

The team plays best with quick players in it. A tall target man is just a seperate dimension we could do with occassionally,

It's not occassionally thou, at least 10 times this season we needed a different option. I believe if we had this option the league would have been well won by the last day.

Skud wrote: »

doesnt mean we need 2 or 3 of them since we do have one (manucho already). Before anyone says he is unproven - he played well enough for fergie and carlos to sign him during a trial -

He is completely unproven - We signed Dong from a trial aswell, Manucho is a 25 year old unproven unknown striker - call him what he is.

LostinBlanch

Boggles wrote: »

He is completely unproven - We signed Dong from a trial aswell, Manucho is a 25 year old unproven unknown striker - call him what he is.

Actually we signed Dong as a marketing move. That's why he only gets to play when we do a far east tour.

Boggles

LostinBlanch wrote: »

Actually we signed Dong as a marketing move. That's why he only gets to play when we do a far east tour.

Whatever the reasons, he had the formality of a trial.

curry-muff

Duno how people can say villa isnt what united need, united need a good finisher, id love to see villa at united, i can undersstand that someone like berbatov might come in handy as a target man with his height and strength but ultimately united need a goalscoring forward, i think villa has that more than most in his bag of tricks

Dont be at yourself

Actually we signed Dong as a marketing move. That's why he only gets to play when we do a far east tour.

He only gets to play when you do a Far East tour because he didn't have a UK work permit, and so wasn't allowed to play in the UK. Hence he played when Man Utd traveled to Asia, South Africa etc.

kryogen

lol i knew people would start mentioning villa again after they saw him in the euros, thats why i brought him up last week to gauge peoples reaction then. it is funny how fickle football fans can be alright!!

anyway,i stick to my guns on him, i know he isnt a towering target man but i honestly dont think thats neccessarily what we need, im absolutely positive the main attribute our striker needs to have to be signed is finishing ability and he has that in abundance, unfortunately his price will have just shot up a few million after that hattrick.

i was happy when everyone reckoned torres was the best striker in the spanish team, it meant we might have gotten Villa cheaper!

kryogen

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

He only gets to play when you do a Far East tour because he didn't have a UK work permit, and so wasn't allowed to play in the UK. Hence he played when Man Utd traveled to Asia, South Africa etc.

oh come off it

Dont be at yourself

oh come off it

I'm not saying Dong is good enough for Man Utd, but I am disputing that the reason he has only played for Utd in Asia/Africa is for marketing. It may have something to do with it, but you can't ignore the legal restrictions placed on him, either.

Skud

kryogen wrote: »

lol i knew people would start mentioning villa again after they saw him in the euros, thats why i brought him up last week to gauge peoples reaction then. it is funny how fickle football fans can be alright!!

anyway,i stick to my guns on him, i know he isnt a towering target man but i honestly dont think thats neccessarily what we need, im absolutely positive the main attribute our striker needs to have to be signed is finishing ability and he has that in abundance, unfortunately his price will have just shot up a few million after that hattrick.

i was happy when everyone reckoned torres was the best striker in the spanish team, it meant we might have gotten Villa cheaper!

that's pretty much what i said/meant I think SAF is under the impression we need someone who is towering, or at least very good in the air and tall anyway.

I still think silva would be an excellent purchase. There is only a handful of quality wingers available and he is one. Another would be ribery, we didnt go for him when he was available. I think that's the prob with Alex, he doesnt mind sticking to his guns - hence us not getting too many bargins. However when certain players become available you should at least try to get them Before anderson and nani are mentioned - they were long term targets. I mean players who he would/could buy and they would be excellent for the club but arent always on the market - therefore never considered a target.

Hughes did it with Santa Cruz for example

Spud83

Oh no. Ronaldo was spotted talking to Real fitness coach (who was our fitness coach for three years and practically built Ronaldo) in last Jan. He is definitely going now.

Spud83

Tauren wrote: »

my 'retro' (94/95, 95/96 seasons) United jerseys arrived today. BLOODY DELIGHTED.

Where did ya get them?

I am waiting for my 94 Fa Cup final shirt ordered last week.

Skud

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Oh no. Ronaldo was spotted talking to Real fitness coach (who was our fitness coach for three years and practically built Ronaldo) in last Jan. He is definitely going now.

It's alright - We can sign this guy instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA-LNhRKwqI

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Where did ya get them?

I am waiting for my 94 Fa Cup final shirt ordered last week.

Got them off ebay.

The diamond sleved one his a little thread pull on the front of the jersey, at 'six-pack' level (:D) and the faded OT one has a pluck or two on the back, but given how old they are they are in great condition. Cost me about €40 for the two of them I think, which ain't half bad.

Can't wait to play football on Thursday now!

Boggles

kryogen wrote: »

anyway,i stick to my guns on him, i know he isnt a towering target man but i honestly dont think thats neccessarily what we need, im absolutely positive the main attribute our striker needs to have to be signed is finishing ability and he has that in abundance, unfortunately his price will have just shot up a few million after that hattrick.

Nobody suggested we needed a towering target man, but if we sign Villa we will have a front line of basically midgets.

I wouldn't be getting too carried away with Villa, he did very well last night but he was up against the 2 worst centre halves I have seen in some time.

Dont be at yourself

It reminds me of the former Argentina manager, who resisted calls to play Messi, Aguero, Tevez, Macherano and Crespo in the same team, saying he couldn't field a team of 'the seven dwarves'

grames_bond

Tauren wrote: »

my 'retro' (94/95, 95/96 seasons) United jerseys arrived today. BLOODY DELIGHTED.

mine too!! same jerseys and all, ebay ftw!

Tauren wrote: »

The diamond sleved one his a little thread pull on the front of the jersey, at 'six-pack' level (:D) and the faded OT one has a pluck or two on the back, but given how old they are they are in great condition. Cost me about €40 for the two of them I think, which ain't half bad.!

dude -rip off, the diamond sleeved one i got for £4 (plus £9 p&p) and the old trafford one i got for £8 (plus £4 p&p) with the exchxnge rate as it is i got the 2 of them, size large, in mint condition for a shade under €30!! deeeeee-lighted!

Mitch Connor

I got extra large, ya shrimp.

sprinkles

I reiterate my calls for Villa... He's a great finisher and I think with Rooney linking up with him and Tevez the terrier behind him he'd fit in brilliantly.