Manchester United Transfer Rumours/Discussion 2008/2009

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

For some reason, its just came back to me again now....why dont we sign David Villa? can anyone give me a real valid reason for why this guy would be a bad signing? he can score the poacher goals that we need as well as being a damn good player too

is it weird that im slightly proud of being the first to mention him on this years thread now he is having a great tournament? like that i got in there before he came to eveyones attention again

sad

kryogen

ShoulderChip wrote: »

So when C-ron hands in his tranfre request,
will you still believe its all made up and not going to happen?

i think if Ronaldo hands in a transfer request, it would be pretty hard for people to argue with that dont you think?

if that happens im sure all united fans will accept that he wants to leave and will be leaving as its an official statement. i.e. not press speculation, like the speculation that he is going to hand in a transfer request

Spud83

ShoulderChip wrote: »

So when C-ron hands in his tranfre request,
will you still believe its all made up and not going to happen?

Obviously if he publically hands in a transfer request it would have to be believed. However for me personally I always said that I wont believe anything until I see him standing in front of cameras and saying I want to leave Man Utd for Real. (I also would need to hear the question he was asked before believing it).

Until that day comes I believe Ronaldo will be a Manchester United player next year.

kryogen wrote: »

is it weird that im slightly proud of being the first to mention him on this years thread now he is having a great tournament? like that i go tin there before he came ot eveyones attention again

sad

Need to post a link to that post. You could have just made it up.

alanmurphy83 wrote:

So for the one signing I want to see this summer is a striker. With Benzema being my first pick, and David Villa my second. IMO either would be a great buy.

Ya see.

EDIT: Sorry didn't know quotes had a link in them.

kryogen

Tauren wrote: »

I don't remember you mention Villa at all.

You liar.

LIAR.

i really hope that commo was in jest, i mean just cause you dont rememebr it doesnt mean it never happened, remember that time i beat your ass all the way from new york to texas? no well it still happened! just the damamge i inflicted on you affected your memory!


for your own legal requirements, the first time i mentioned him in this thread was post #1223 and thats on page 82

kryogen

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Need to post a link to that post. You could have just made it up.



EDIT: Sorry didn't know quotes had a link in them.

you see the error of your ways, thats enough for me

lol, well, maybe 4 hail marys and a decade of our fathers actually

Mitch Connor

kryogen wrote: »

i really hope that commo was in jest, i mean just cause you dont rememebr it doesnt mean it never happened, remember that time i beat your ass all the way from new york to texas? no well it still happened! just the damamge i inflicted on you affected your memory!


for your own legal requirements, the first time i mentioned him in this thread was post #1223 and thats on page 82

YouTube vid or it never happend....

Mitch Connor

To link a post, click on the post number on the top right of the post. that will open the post in a new window, and you can copy the direct link to the post.

Just so ya's know.

kryogen

thanks alot for that one Tauren, didnt know about that. that will come in handy me thinks!

the link in the quote itself normally suffices though doesnt it?

kryogen

Ive run out of superlatives and words to describe the man so ill just post the link and say, genuine class is a rare thing these days, we have been lucky to have this guy and are lucky to have him involved in the club.

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6611906

and then a mix of good and bad news

park will miss the olympics to recover from the injury, good news for us, bad news for him. shame, such a valuable player for club and country

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6611903

Harpy

kryogen wrote: »

I wouldnt be surprised if Ronnie makes a statement today, the papers have pretty much run out of things to say except re hashing old stories and trying to put new slants on them because of the info they get from "sources" close to united/Ronaldo/madrid etc.

Spot on Kryogen, on sky sports news that cristiano ronaldo news conference coming up!

Harpy

ah same stuff, its actually a portugal press conference...
he just said he already said he's not discussing his future until after the euros and he's concentrating on portugal now..

kryogen

nothing new there so, on to other news then?

Guardiola has been quoted as saying Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Deco are not in his mind for the future, so im assuming this means all 3 will be gone, good news for anyone who wants to sign Eto'o!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3702260,00.html

kryogen

actually heres a guy i would like to see signed over the next 2 years, by united obviously not Arsenal!


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3701107,00.html

grames_bond

kryogen wrote: »

nothing new there so, on to other news then?

Guardiola has been quoted as saying Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Deco are not in his mind for the future, so im assuming this means all 3 will be gone, good news for anyone who wants to sign Eto'o!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3702260,00.html

eto would be a great signing allright! should be interesting to see what happens!

Im_No_Superman

kryogen wrote: »

nothing new there so, on to other news then?

Guardiola has been quoted as saying Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Deco are not in his mind for the future, so im assuming this means all 3 will be gone, good news for anyone who wants to sign Eto'o!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3702260,00.html

I think Eto'o would be an amazing signing and could work out to be alot cheaper than Villa or Berbatov.

Mitch Connor

It is annoying seeing player like Villa and Eto'o are possibly available, but that we don't seem to be making a move for them. I wish united would let a few leaks out!

MuPpItJoCkEy

kryogen wrote: »

actually heres a guy i would like to see signed over the next 2 years, by united obviously not Arsenal!


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3701107,00.html

He'd be a good addition but we don't need another central defender. If we get another right back, we'll have Brown and Neville doing nowt but bench warming.

Cover for Evra wouldn't be bad we've only got Silvestre and there's rumours that he could be on his way back to the Ligue 1 in France.

I'm looking forward to seeing Manucho in a United jersey and seeing the back of Louis Haha. Saha has been good at times granted but so unreliable with injuries. Who would buy him not sure but I'm sure someone would.

I personally don't want Berba at United because he's too much of a sulk. I do like Eto but I seriously doubt he'd be bought or considered although I could be wrong on that one.

kryogen

if we let leaks out other teams start taking more interest, maybe start offering more money and they we either end up paying over the odds ala Carrick and Hargreaves imo, or we lose them cause another team paid over the odds ala Essien

much happier not to be linked with so many players

i saw reports on tribal that villas agent was in England to meet officials from united liverpool and chelsea recently..... there are quotes from AS but i dont know the credibility. it is tribal after all

kryogen

MuPpItJoCkEy wrote: »

He'd be a good addition but we don't need another central defender. If we get another right back, we'll have Brown and Neville doing nowt but bench warming.

I said id like to see him signed in the next 2 years, not now! id like to see him brought in when Rio is hitting 31 and Vida is hitting 29.....we will have to be looking to their replacements then. start making plans at least, although i wouldnt say they will be done by their early thirtys for sure anyway!


EDIT: tbh i actually do think we need more centre back cover with Pique gone but i think his developmetn would suffer if he joined now

MuPpItJoCkEy

kryogen wrote: »

I said id like to see him signed in the next 2 years, not now! id like to see him brought in when Rio is hitting 31 and Vida is hitting 29.....we will have to be looking to their replacements then. start making plans at least, although i wouldnt say they will be done by their early thirtys for sure anyway!


EDIT: tbh i actually do think we need more centre back cover with Pique gone but i think his developmetn would suffer if he joined now

Completely agree.

Boggles

Tauren wrote: »

It is annoying seeing player like Villa and Eto'o are possibly available, but that we don't seem to be making a move for them. I wish united would let a few leaks out!

I'd be 100% sure Ferguson knows who he wants, as soon as the Euro's are finished you'll see some activity.

kryogen

Boggles wrote: »

I'd be 100% sure Ferguson knows who he wants, as soon as the Euro's are finished you'll see some activity.

+1

Nalz

Exactly wait for the Euros to finish and see what happens then. I wouldnt be surprised if we raid Blackburn for Santa Cruz and Bentley.

Harpy

Tauren wrote: »

It is annoying seeing player like Villa and Eto'o are possibly available, but that we don't seem to be making a move for them. I wish united would let a few leaks out!

They won't go for anyone till after the euro's..Clubs are going to wait to sell players till after the euro's cause if they perform well they'll be able to get a lot more for the player..
be patient and enjoy the euros and let the transfer rush begin once it ends..

ShoulderChip

Ha nonsense report in Spanish Newspaper claims inter wil hijack Ronaldo's move to Madrid
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=740102
if only.

Mr Alan

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Ha nonsense report in Spanish Newspaper claims inter wil hijack Ronaldo's move to Madrid
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=740102
if only.

After Mourinho insulted him by publically slating his poor background and lack of education? i ****ing doubt it

Mitch Connor

indeed - almost as funny as Ruud van Nistlerooy agreeing with a reporter who said he had a great relationship with Ronaldo when they were at OT!

Nalz

yeah I had a giggle at that, nothing else he could really say though!

Dave!

Hunter scores against Romania

NaiveMelodies

hunters ****e, pure muck, no thank you very much.

Skud

only1stevo wrote: »

hunters ****e, pure muck, no thank you very much.

robben had a bad game too, pure muck also???

one game doesn't judge a player. He got the goal that pretty much won them the game... my point is he contributed even if he had a bad game. That's what good players do. I'm not saying he's unreal but he certainly not muck.

Dave!

Skud wrote: »

my point is he contributed even if he had a bad game. That's what good players do.

True story! See: Cristiano Ronaldo. It's considered a bad game for him if he only scores once :pac:

Mr Alan

Dave! wrote: »

True story! See: Cristiano Ronaldo. It's considered a bad game for him if he only scores once :pac:

It will be strange to see how many Utd fans opinions of Ronaldo change when/if he leaves.

i promise a lot of people who denied his diving/bad attitude/going missing, will have their claws out.

football is a funny aul game

Boggles

only1stevo wrote: »

hunters ****e, pure muck, no thank you very much.

Would you like to expand?

His last 5 international games 5 goals, pure muck!

kippy

Mr Alan wrote: »

It will be strange to see how many Utd fans opinions of Ronaldo change when/if he leaves.

i promise a lot of people who denied his diving/bad attitude/going missing, will have their claws out.

football is a funny aul game

Indeed it is.
Same things happen at all clubs. Fans are but people with blinkers on who suffer from a distinct lack of logic.


Kippy

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

i promise a lot of people who denied his diving/bad attitude/going missing, will have their claws out.

You also promised me Alonso was going nowhere, your promises arn't worth the keyboard there typed on.

Ronaldo could fiddle with animals, I couldn't give 2 shiny shítés, 42 goals and the best team in the world, I and pretty much every other United supporter have been smiling like Harry Kewells bank manager for months.

Mr Alan

Boggles wrote: »

You also promised me Alonso was going nowhere, your promises arn't worth the keyboard there typed on.

Ronaldo could fiddle with animals, I couldn't give 2 shiny shítés, 42 goals and the best team in the world, I and pretty much every other United supporter have been smiling like Harry Kewells bank manager for months.

what Harry Kewells bank manager has to do with this is beyond me?


no need to be so defensive Boggles, i wasnt attacking Ronaldo, his ability, or anyone here, i was simply pointing out the hypocricy of most football fans, as Kippy picked up.

NaiveMelodies

Boggles wrote: »

Would you like to expand?

His last 5 international games 5 goals, pure muck!

Yes id like to expand, he is the 4th choice striker for Holland.
I watched the match tonight and he was crap, hes nowhere near as good as ruud, and didnt look like he has the potential to become as good as ruud.
He was so poor, hes a weed, and his goal was a sitter.
Hes 24, not exactly a spring chicken, I just dont see the potential based on 2night.

I would never judge a player on his performances in the dutch league, its a farce.

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

i wasnt attacking Ronaldo

You Sure??

Mr Alan wrote: »

i promise a lot of people who denied his diving/bad attitude/going missing, will have their claws out.

Apologies, I must have picked you up wrong. :rolleyes:

Nalz

Maybe mr Alan, I'm sure you would have and did feel the same when "Stevie G" was/wasn't going to Chelsea. People think with the heart sometimes. Ronaldo doesnt dive ten times as much as he did 2 or 3 years ago, he doesnt need to. If we get the a decent payout for him and he really wants to go then good luck to him...

What would worry me is that we want to keep the player and might still sell him. Thats what would be my concern. Madrid are a massive club, biggest in the world infact in a warm country with better climate/culture/way of living.. but it would still concern me big time if we bow down to these guys.

Mr Alan wrote: »

what Harry Kewells bank manager has to do with this is beyond me?

He was just using it as an example/simile of pure happiness. If he'd had said pig in muck the same message would have gotten across. Still confused?

Skud

Mr Alan wrote: »

what Harry Kewells bank manager has to do with this is beyond me?


no need to be so defensive Boggles, i wasnt attacking Ronaldo, his ability, or anyone here, i was simply pointing out the hypocricy of most football fans, as Kippy picked up.

it's only utd specific cause it in the utd thread!

Mr Alan

Boggles wrote: »

You Sure??

100%

Boggles wrote: »

Apologies, I must have picked you up wrong. :rolleyes:

Apology accepted

Skud

Trilla wrote: »

Maybe mr Alan, I'm sure you would have and did feel the same when "Stevie G" was/wasn't going to Chelsea. People think with the heart sometimes. Ronaldo doesnt dive ten times as much as he did 2 or 3 years ago, he doesnt need to. If we get the a decent payout for him and he really wants to go then good luck to him...

What would worry me is that we want to keep the player and might still sell him. Thats what would be my concern. Madrid are a massive club, biggest in the world infact in a warm country with better climate/culture/way of living.. but it would still concern me big time if we bow down to these guys.

I dont think it's bowing to madrid... more like ronaldo. I couldnt care less if he leaves at this stage as long as it's out of the press... The only concern I have if he does leave though is anderson... I'm not as pushed with Nani as he isnt integral to the team just yet, but deffo could see madrid coming back for anderson in 2-3 years when he explodes more.

Boggles

only1stevo wrote: »

I just dont see the potential based on 2night..

Well there is your problem. Remind me which league RVN came from?

He is not 4th choice striker, he is unlucky that he has one of greatest goal scorers of modern football to contend with. 8 goals in 13 internationals, 4 as sub, so he is taking his chances.

Raul didn't make the Spanish squad, is he pure muck?

Mr Alan

Trilla wrote: »

Maybe mr Alan, I'm sure you would have and did feel the same when "Stevie G" was/wasn't going to Chelsea.

Exactly, that was my point, it was about football fans in general. Liverpool fans about Gerrard, Arsenal fans about Henry, Villa fans about Barry etc

Peoples opinions on Gerrard/Henry/Barry arent as polarised as they are with Ronaldo, so the swing in the people who are criticising him would be a lot more apparent though.

if you catch my drift.

edit:

Trilla wrote: »

He was just using it as an example/simile of pure happiness. If he'd had said pig in muck the same message would have gotten across. Still confused?

Oh i know wat he was intending to do. Use an example that takes the piss out of Liverpool when discussing anything with me in this thread, its a thread that was set a long time ago, an annoying one at that.

Skud

Boggles wrote: »

Well there is your problem. Remind me which league RVN came from?

alsymers?

Boggles wrote: »

He is not 4th choice striker, he is unlucky that he has one of greatest goal scorers of modern football to contend with. 8 goals in 13 internationals, 4 as sub, so he is taking his chances.

more like 3rd.. he behind van persie id say - if you call him an out and out striker. Vengoor would be 4th

Boggles wrote: »

Raul didn't make the Spanish squad, is he pure muck?

yep...

Boggles

Skud wrote: »

alsymers?


more like 3rd.. he behind van persie id say - if you call him an out and out striker. Vengoor would be 4th


yep...

To summise your opinon would be Raul and Huntalear are muck.

Thank Christ your not a scout. :eek:

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

Exactly, that was my point, it was about football fans in general. Liverpool fans about Gerrard, Arsenal fans about Henry, Villa fans about Barry etc

To a lesser extent when Henry went, But if Liverpool had lost Gerrard they would have struggled, Villa losing Barry this season will struggle.

Theres the difference, If United lose Ronaldo, they won't struggle.

There will be no panic or burning of shirts.

Skud

Boggles wrote: »

To summise your opinon would be Raul and Huntalear are muck.

Thank Christ your not a scout. :eek:

errrm i was messing plus i never said huntelaar was muck god boggles you like to argue

Boggles

Skud wrote: »

errrm i was messing plus i never said huntelaar was muck god boggles you like to argue

What the hell do you mean I like to argue???? :pac::pac::pac::pac: