Manchester United Transfer Rumours/Discussion 2008/2009

Mr Alan

Cuellar is actually a quality player.

kryogen

Boggles wrote: »

Well he scored a fair few goals against, Bolton, Newcastle, Wigan, etc. Do they not count either?

i would wager that they would be of slightly better quality then Armenia, also i didnt say they dont count, im just saying its less impressive under more scrutiny.

like i said, i dont want to take away from him too much, im a fan of his. i just dont look at everything through the eyes of love! im not blind

its a major factor as to why i would choose Ronaldo ahead of the likes of Kaka every year for a league! he will destroy the weaker teams easily and that guarantees your there or thereabouts at the end of the season

Mitch Connor

grahamo wrote: »

On reflection its got to be BS. Carlos Cuellar? Someone is having a laugh!

it is BS, definitely, but apparently Cuellar was a player we were looking at before he signed for Rangers, and i'm conviced a read a piece regarding fergie giving him some praise last season.

kryogen

grahamo wrote: »

On reflection its got to be BS. Carlos Cuellar? Someone is having a laugh!

hang on now i thought when you posted it you were having a laugh!! did you not just make that up on the spot? i got a great laugh out of it anyway!

grahamo

Tauren wrote: »

it is BS, definitely, but apparently Cuellar was a player we were looking at before he signed for Rangers, and i'm conviced a read a piece regarding fergie giving him some praise last season.

Yes, but I'm thinking Cuellar is a centre half. United certainly don't need a centre half at the minute

Mr Alan

yea but Ferdinand aint getting any younger.

kryogen

we need centre half cover in fairness, i really dont like the idea of JOSH at centre half

Mitch Connor

grahamo wrote: »

Yes, but I'm thinking Cuellar is a centre half. United certainly don't need a centre half at the minute

Nope - not with Pique being sold and silvestre looking lilely to follow him out...

IMO, we do need some backup for the defence.

Skud

Tauren wrote: »

Nope - not with Pique being sold and silvestre looking lilely to follow him out...

IMO, we do need some backup for the defence.

yep, sunderland want evans too. That leaves 2 centre backs really if everyone leaves.. we need a backup. Even if we get a right back, brown can cover centre, but still short.

Spud83

We need cover all over the defense IMO. If Evans and Silvestre go then we need cover for CB,and LB. Depending on Nevilles fitness next year we could still need cover for RB.

grahamo

I think Silvestre may be staying another while. 1 more year and he gets a testimonial
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3730984,00.html

Mitch Connor

Maybe we should take a look at Lescott - can play all across the backline.

We also have the brazilian twins available, though who knows if they'll be any good. Cathcart is a decent CB too imo.

Mitch Connor

I was actually impressed with Silvestre in the games he played at the backend of last season, put in some very good performances.

Dave!

Tauren wrote: »

I was actually impressed with Silvestre in the games he played at the backend of last season, put in some very good performances.

Me too, I thought he was amazing. Would love if he stayed.

Did he play CB for 1 or 2 games, or is it my imagination? I seem to remember him doing so, and being immense.

kryogen

Silvestre is solid! always has been, he is just too prone to make stupid mistakes.

he would have been top class if he could have eradicated them the way Rio has

he is fantastic back up though

Mitch Connor

grahamo wrote: »

I think Silvestre may be staying another while. 1 more year and he gets a testimonial
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3730984,00.html

kryogen wrote: »

Silvestre is solid! always has been, he is just too prone to make stupid mistakes.

That doesn't make a lick of sense!:D

He can be solid, and when he has his head screwed on he can be fantastic (remember the combo himself and Rio had before Rio missed the drugs test)

jaykay74

I always thought Silvestre was an accident waiting to happen. For me he is for backup purposes only, a better version of John O'Shea. He did score an important goal against Leeds though a few years back

kryogen

Tauren wrote: »

That doesn't make a lick of sense!:D

He can be solid, and when he has his head screwed on he can be fantastic (remember the combo himself and Rio had before Rio missed the drugs test)

it made perfect sense in my head! ok ill clarify, for 88 minutes in a game Silvestre can be fantastic, then he makes a stupid mistake! so he is solid 99% of the time!

i dunno, my hangover may be impeding my wording of things

the partnership before Rio got banned was looking really really good, was such a shame then cause with Rio beside him Silvestre seemed to really go backwards!

Im_No_Superman

I hope Silvestre stays aswell, excellant back up, great crosser of a ball too, remember that cross he stuck in for Rooney a couple of seasons ago to score against Arsenal. Id like Evans to get his chance as a squad player this season too.

alanmurphy83

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

We need cover all over the defense IMO. If Evans and Silvestre go then we need cover for CB,and LB. Depending on Nevilles fitness next year we could still need cover for RB.

TBH I dont see Evans making it at United, and I agree, we need more defensive cover.

Im_No_Superman

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH I dont see Evans making it at United, and I agree, we need more defensive cover.

Well I feel he deserves the chance Pique had last year, afew Champions League games, come on for afew league games, basically being in the squad and then judge the situation again this time next year.

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

it made perfect sense in my head! ok ill clarify, for 88 minutes in a game Silvestre can be fantastic, then he makes a stupid mistake! so he is solid 99% of the time!

i dunno, my hangover may be impeding my wording of things

the partnership before Rio got banned was looking really really good, was such a shame then cause with Rio beside him Silvestre seemed to really go backwards!

Dont forget that in the past he's also formed a solid unit with Brown in the centre.

Im_No_Superman

Im_No_Superman wrote: »

Well I feel he deserves the chance Pique had last year, afew Champions League games, come on for afew league games, basically being in the squad and then judge the situation again this time next year.

Possib-lay but I personally would be more comfortable with another backup defender being bought

Skud

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH I dont see Evans making it at United, and I agree, we need more defensive cover.

he's good and meant to have been impressive for sunderland. But he wasn't/isn't better than pique could have been for us. I still think he could be a great squad player if we hold onto him and one day actually manage to maintain a starting place. If he is prepared to wait - since sunderland want him I doubt he will. We prob be better off selling him now and getting more money, than if we let him rot in the reserves for a year or two, decreasing his value.

kmart6

Tauren wrote: »

Maybe we should take a look at Lescott - can play all across the backline.

We also have the brazilian twins available, though who knows if they'll be any good. Cathcart is a decent CB too imo.

Don't think Lescott would fit in IMO!

kryogen

its hard to get genuine talent to wait on the bench

Mitch Connor

Of course he would fit in - ever watch STNG? Worf never had problems fitting in anywhere. Just give Joleen a hat and he'd be fine.

Mr Alan

Lescott is a brilliant player.

PHB

Silvestre is an accident waiting to happen at CB, but the accident rarely happens, and he's quite a good LB imo. I think he's a good squad player to have, Neville making a comeback should keep us solid at defence, although it could do with strengthening.

Nalz

Arbeloa, speaking in Austria where is he preparing for Spain's Euro 2008 semi-final with Russia, believes the departure of Ronaldo from Old Trafford would provide a boost for arch-rivals Liverpool.


"If Ronaldo plays in Real Madrid it will be good news because he is one of the best players in the world and is our enemy at the moment," Arbeloa told Sky Sports News.

"If he can play for Real Madrid for me it is perfect.

"For us it would be a good news because for Manchester United he is very important and if Ronaldo is not in Manchester for Liverpool it is good."

Have to laugh at this really...as if the sale of Ronaldo would help Liverpool jump 3 positions on the previous few seasons and make 20 odd points difference.

PHB

PHB wrote: »

although it could do with strengthening.

Damn right, remember Milan? It NEARLY happened again this season, we need cover.

Mr Alan

Trilla wrote: »

Have to laugh at this really...as if the sale of Ronaldo would help Liverpool jump 3 positions on the previous few seasons and make 20 odd points difference.

you dont think Ronaldo made 11 points difference?

I do.

Mitch Connor

Mr Alan wrote: »

you dont think Ronaldo made 11 points difference?

I do.

I don't think he made a difference to your position in relation to either Chelsea or Arsenal though.:p

Anyway, if he did go, he'd be replaced, and while that person themselves may not be worth 11 points, they probably wouldn't be worth none, and then players like Rooney, Tevez, Anderson and Nani might step up a bit more.

Mr Alan

Mr Alan wrote: »

you dont think Ronaldo made 11 points difference?

I do.

That said, everyone would have said Ruud was worth 11 points too......

Mr Alan

Tauren; failing to see where Arbeloa said we'd win the league if he left? he just said that it'd be good news for Liverpool.

It would. Nothing funny about that.

Nalz

Mr Alan wrote: »

you dont think Ronaldo made 11 points difference?
I do.

Right On Queue

What about Chelsea and Arsenal? One player from one team wont make Liverpools season. Cant be that "good" for them. He's just stirrin it, bit of a nobody anyway . It was 20 odd the season before.

More reason for ya postcount ++ MrAlan, you should be happy!

Mr Alan

Thrilla; see above response to Tauren.

and if it was 20 the season before, 11 this year, and now you may lose your best player....should you not be starting to get worried?

Mitch Connor

Mr Alan wrote: »

Tauren; failing to see where Arbeloa said we'd win the league if he left? he just said that it'd be good news for Liverpool.

It would. Nothing funny about that.

Alan.... i don't care, i never said he did!

I was responding directly to your quote, which was responding directly to another comment made by a poster.

Trilla said Ronnie leaving wouldn't jump liverpool 11 points and 3 places. You said Ronaldo was worth 11 points. I was merely pointing out the 11 point difference to United is only 1 issue, and that we might find those points elsewhere in the side.

Nalz

Tauren wrote: »

Trilla said Ronnie leaving wouldn't jump liverpool 11 points and 3 places. You said Ronaldo was worth 11 points. I was merely pointing out the 11 point difference to United is only 1 issue, and that we might find those points elsewhere in the side.

yeah, that and its Trilla without the "h"!

Mitch Connor

Trilla wrote: »

yeah, that and its Trilla without the "h"!

you always thrill me....

anywho....

Mr Alan

i love you both x

sprinkles

I knew it!

Nalz

:eek:

kryogen

its just another step in coming to terms with the fact that Alan is and always has been and always will be, a Man U fan!

he will display his love for certain Man U fans and then in a few more months declare his love for the team

you heard it hear first!

Mr Alan

^^^
spot on.

ok....let me give this thread a little kickstart to get it back on topic.....

ronaldo wants to leave. you're ****ed next year.

OPENROAD

Mr Alan wrote: »

^^^
spot on.

ok....let me give this thread a little kickstart to get it back on topic.....

ronaldo wants to leave. you're ****ed next year.

Talking of Ronaldo leaving, has anyone seen the spoof youtube video doing the rounds at the moment, have got it from loads of people, where hitler finds out he is leaving. I won't post the link as some of script is very border line.

Mr Alan

i posted it the other day its good alright

ShoulderChip

yes its on the previous page.

OPENROAD

Mr Alan wrote: »

i posted it the other day its good alright

similar ones for Chelsea failing to win cl and one for when he finds out Wenger is not signing anyone Wenger one sails very close to the wind imo.

scholes19

Ronny has to go,end of!
£60 million and wesley for me to be happy!