Most Exciting Young Prospects For 2008/2009

KdjaCL · 23-05-2008 11:44pm

tdv wrote: »

Lucas Trecarichi(Argentina,Sevilla)

born February 12, 1991

ssshhh you thats Capels replacement when we get 20 million for him

kdjac

titan18 · 23-05-2008 11:45pm

KdjaCL wrote: »

lol

Also Capel made his 1st team debut this season.

kdjac

He amde his debut at the age of 16 as a sub.Hes palyed a few times since then and he became a regular this season.As hes only a few months younger than Messi,he'll never be the same player.He still has the chance to be a good player but I doubt it

KdjaCL · 23-05-2008 11:52pm

titan18 wrote: »

He amde his debut at the age of 16 as a sub.Hes palyed a few times since then and he became a regular this season.As hes only a few months younger than Messi,he'll never be the same player.He still has the chance to be a good player but I doubt it

Those 3 minutes 2 years ago really did him well, Jimenez took him back to the "reserves" after that as he wasnt ready for full on contact.

If you gonna use wiki for your info about a player you have prolly never seen, the not post option if available. Peronally i think Sevilla should sell him, jiminez is a cracking coach for the youths and reserves just not good enough for the full team and he knows it now. Capel needs coaching much like Torres did(and got at pool) i dont think Sevillas 1st team in its present state can afford him that coaching.

kdjac

Sqaull20 · 23-05-2008 11:57pm

KdjaCL wrote: »

You got that from the 60 minutes he played vs Arse in the emirates in a 3-0 whomping due to unfortunate events? **** me you should be a career writer. please do tell us in your 60 minutes of watching him what do you think he will do ? will he play for spain? will he play for sevilla week in week out ? will he develop?

kdjac

I didnt saying anything about his development..

You said he was super fast, I said he wasnt..

Most of the top clubs in england have atheltes at wing back, like Cole, Clichy, Evra, Lescott, Onuoha etc, you made it sound like he had world class pace like Kaka ( being so much faster than C Ronaldo )

titan18 · 24-05-2008 12:03am

KdjaCL wrote: »

Those 3 minutes 2 years ago really did him well, Jimenez took him back to the "reserves" after that as he wasnt ready for full on contact.

If you gonna use wiki for your info about a player you have prolly never seen, the not post option if available. Peronally i think Sevilla should sell him, jiminez is a cracking coach for the youths and reserves just not good enough for the full team and he knows it now. Capel needs coaching much like Torres did(and got at pool) i dont think Sevillas 1st team in its present state can afford him that coaching.

kdjac

What are you on about 2 years.It was 4.He'll never be a world class player even if he gets good coaching.He's too lightweight to play in the Premiership.He'd be destroyed by the top defenders and his speed isnt exactly so blistering that it'll get him past anyone.He isnt even in the same class as Walcott so how can you compare him to Messi

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 12:06am

KdjaCL wrote: »

Hes like WHOOOOSSSSHHHHHH fast!

Would prefer he stayed but Sevilla will cash in and find another just as good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmIheDWHf08&feature=related

lol wtf?

eze translate?

kdjac

Born in Albox,
A future star,
Diego Capel,
The new pearl in the ??? (sand, I dont know cantera),
Fighting game by game,
And made the first team,
Appearing for the U21's,
Setting the world alight (not really sure how to put it),
Has scored goals such as(never saw that goal, **** me it was tasty!!),
Getting better more?,
A nightmare for defenses,
Fighting more than one,
Sought by Barca??,
Getting more fans everyday,

Banner is something about dreaming... =P My Spanish is rubbish like, ask An Citeoig, he is studying it in uni!

I'd agree that Capel reminds me alot of a young left sided Messi, but the difference is that Capel doesn't have the air about him that he'll could potentially be one of the greatest players of our time, whereas Messi has that swagger about him that all great great players possess. I've no doubt that if he doesn't pull a Navas (getting panic attacks when away from home), he'll be one of the worlds best wingers... Although, one criticism is his diving, he needs to do that alot less...

Sqaull20 wrote: »

I didnt saying anything about his development..

You said he was super fast, I said he wasnt..

Most of the top clubs in england have atheltes at wing back, like Cole, Clichy, Evra, Lescott, Onuoha etc, you made it sound like he had world class pace like Kaka ( being so much faster than C Ronaldo )

He does have world class pace... He's ridiculously pacey...

titan18 wrote: »

What are you on about 2 years.It was 4.He'll never be a world class player even if he gets good coaching.He's too lightweight to play in the Premiership.He'd be destroyed by the top defenders and his speed isnt exactly so blistering that it'll get him past anyone.He isnt even in the same class as Walcott so how can you compare him to Messi

He's too lightweight, what about Robben, is he a big brutish winger, or Ashley Young? Capel has more of a physical presence than Walcott, definitely, I don't know how his speed would compare to Walcotts because I havent seen Walcott in full tilt yet... His burst of pace is extremely similar to that of Messi's... I know who'd I'd rather have as a winger in my team anyway (between him and Walcott)...

estebancambias · 24-05-2008 12:11am

Capel isn't in the same league as Walcott? Bull**** my friend..bull****.

Walcott has done nothing for me to indicate that he is anything more than a useful/good Aaron Lennon type EPL player.

estebancambias · 24-05-2008 12:12am

Oh just to add its very hard to gauge a wingers potential. For me its the most difficult position on the pitch to be consistent and only the best survive.

Look at Duff, Jaoquin and Vicente being examples. All players had the potential to be the best wingers in the world but all blighted by injury.

Sqaull20 · 24-05-2008 12:14am

estebancambias wrote: »

Capel isn't in the same league as Walcott? Bull**** my friend..bull****.

Walcott has done nothing for me to indicate that he is anything more than a useful/good Aaron Lennon type EPL player.

That goal against liverpool in the champions league, Milan?

titan18 · 24-05-2008 12:15am

estebancambias wrote: »

Capel isn't in the same league as Walcott? Bull**** my friend..bull****.

Walcott has done nothing for me to indicate that he is anything more than a useful/good Aaron Lennon type EPL player.

Watch him next year as he'll get a starting position in the side.He'll be a fantastic player.All you have to look at is his run against Liverpool to see his ability.

Helix · 24-05-2008 12:15am

nathan delfouneso at villa

KdjaCL · 24-05-2008 12:16am

eZe^ wrote: »

Born in Albox,
A future star,
Diego Capel,
The new pearl in the ??? (sand, I dont know cantera),
Fighting game by game,
And made the first team,
Appearing for the U21's,
Setting the world alight (not really sure how to put it),
Has scored goals such as(never saw that goal, **** me it was tasty!!),
Getting better more?,
A nightmare for defenses,
Fighting more than one,
Sought by Barca??,
Getting more fans everyday,

Banner is something about dreaming... =P My Spanish is rubbish like, ask An Citeoig, he is studying it in uni!

I'd agree that Capel reminds me alot of a young left sided Messi, but the difference is that Capel doesn't have the air about him that he'll could potentially be one of the greatest players of our time, whereas Messi has that swagger about him that all great great players possess. I've no doubt that if he doesn't pull a Navas (getting panic attacks when away from home), he'll be one of the worlds best wingers... Although, one criticism is his diving, he needs to do that alot less...

He does have world class pace... He's ridiculously pacey...

He's too lightweight, what about Robben, is he a big brutish winger, or Ashley Young? Capel has more of a physical presence than Walcott, definitely, I don't know how his speed would compare to Walcotts because I havent seen Walcott in full tilt yet... His burst of pace is extremely similar to that of Messi's... I know who'd I'd rather have as a winger in my team anyway (between him and Walcott)...

Cheers thanks,i reckon his brother made it or something like.

Barca dont seem to be biting at him, prolyl more so to Sevillas price of 20mil and having Duda reassess his life choices, Navas lol cant go anywhere but whats the point in only having a player who plays at home. Would imagine Capels and possibly Navas moves depend on the new manager.

Suppose you could throw Navas into the Young prospects thread if he didnt get homesick and have fits when he left Seville. Hes far better than Capel but right sided and ehh has "issues"

kdjac

Sqaull20 · 24-05-2008 12:18am

eZe^ wrote: »

He does have world class pace... He's ridiculously pacey...

Evidence?

In the game against Arsenal he was up against 2 full backs with world class pace and he was easily out paced..

That is not ridiculously pacey..

KdjaCL · 24-05-2008 12:22am

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Evidence?

In the game against Arsenal he was up against 2 full backs with world class pace and he was easily out paced..

That is not ridiculously pacey..

Seriously you have no clue about this lad, he played an hour vs arsenal in a game they were murdered 3-0 just weeks after their team mate Puerta died on the pitch, we lost 7 of our next 10 gamesafter that. have you watched him in la Liga at any time this season? The same team Sevilla murdered/slaughtered/raped arsenal 3-1 without him a few months later.

So maybe Clichy and Sagna are not players you should use to measure a player?

Which one of those superstars made the squad for euro 2008?

kdjac

Sqaull20 · 24-05-2008 12:26am

Im measuring his speed against Clichy and Sagna thats it, he doesnt compare but few do..

Have watched him a few times and he looks a talent, all im saying is his speed is nothing to shout about...

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 12:27am

KdjaCL wrote: »

Cheers thanks,i reckon his brother made it or something like.

Barca dont seem to be biting at him, prolyl more so to Sevillas price of 20mil and having Duda reassess his life choices, Navas lol cant go anywhere but whats the point in only having a player who plays at home. Would imagine Capels and possibly Navas moves depend on the new manager.

Supoose you could throw Navas into the Yoing prospects thread if he didnt get homesick and have fits when he left Seville.

kdjac

Seville will always produce quality players through there current youth policies though, probably the most underrated youth system in Europe...

I really like Jimenez, but Im unsure as to whether I'd like him to manage Seville next year... There was so many problems that ****ed up the start of their season so maybe he deserves one full season with his own ideal transfers and what not to prove his worth.

Barca will be buying Keita and Alves for about 40 million... Fabiano will leave because of his feud with Jimenez, I think Capel will stay another season... That means they'll be holding onto their core of Kanoute, Capel, Adriano, Navarro... Such a pity about Puerta, he was going to be a great servant for the club...

Do you think they'll get rid of Chevanton? Weren't they trying to flog him off last summer/winter?

What Im worried about if Barca sign Alves, is that when he's bombing up and down the right if he'll take away from some of Messi's mazey runs, Alves ideally likes having all of the right side to himself...

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Evidence?

In the game against Arsenal he was up against 2 full backs with world class pace and he was easily out paced..

That is not ridiculously pacey..

Do you watch La Liga regularly? If you have, you'll see that in a team with Fabiano, Kanoute and Alves, you could definitely make a case for Capel being Sevilles most impressive player this season, he would be the best improved young player in la liga bar Aguero...

titan18 · 24-05-2008 12:28am

eZe^ wrote: »

Born in Albox,

He's too lightweight, what about Robben, is he a big brutish winger, or Ashley Young? Capel has more of a physical presence than Walcott, definitely, I don't know how his speed would compare to Walcotts because I havent seen Walcott in full tilt yet... His burst of pace is extremely similar to that of Messi's... I know who'd I'd rather have as a winger in my team anyway (between him and Walcott)...

His pac may be similar to that of Messi's but Messi isnt exactly the quickest winger.Its his feet and touch with the ball that makes him a great player.Capel doesnt have that.Robben didnt last in the premiership and Young is very phsically strong.They may be small but they are strong on the ball,like Messi,who's tiny.Capel isnt strong on the ball.He wont be able to hold someone off

Mr. Presentable · 24-05-2008 12:33am

Lanzafame - Juventus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixzQgeUhV4

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 12:35am

titan18 wrote: »

His pac may be similar to that of Messi's but Messi isnt exactly the quickest winger.Its his feet and touch with the ball that makes him a great player.Capel doesnt have that.Robben didnt last in the premiership and Young is very phsically strong.They may be small but they are strong on the ball,like Messi,who's tiny.Capel isnt strong on the ball.He wont be able to hold someone off

I disagree 100%, Messi's acceleration is second to none in the world at the moment. Its the combination of his ability to reach his peak speed quickly and his amazing ball control that makes his runs so hard to defend against... His top speed may not be as fast as the paciest players, but it doesn't mean he wont skin them over 20 yards, which he does most of the time...

I guarantee, if Capel is brought into the right environment, he'll be as good as Joaquin in Euro 04, and maintain that level of ability for his career....

titan18 · 24-05-2008 12:40am

eZe^ wrote: »

I disagree 100%, Messi's acceleration is second to none in the world at the moment. Its the combination of his ability to reach his peak speed quickly and his amazing ball control that makes his runs so hard to defend against... His top speed may not be as fast as the paciest players, but it doesn't mean he wont skin them over 20 yards, which he does most of the time...

Not really,Ronaldo,Walcott,Evra,Martins,HenryAgbonlahor and Ivica Olic along with many others are much faster than him.

Ronaldo,henry and Walcott are much faster on the ball aswell

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 12:43am

Agree to disagree so mate...

KdjaCL · 24-05-2008 12:48am

eZe^ wrote: »

Seville will always produce quality players through there current youth policies though, probably the most underrated youth system in Europe...

I really like Jimenez, but Im unsure as to whether I'd like him to manage Seville next year... There was so many problems that ****ed up the start of their season so maybe he deserves one full season with his own ideal transfers and what not to prove his worth.

Barca will be buying Keita and Alves for about 40 million... Fabiano will leave because of his feud with Jimenez, I think Capel will stay another season... That means they'll be holding onto their core of Kanoute, Capel, Adriano, Navarro... Such a pity about Puerta, he was going to be a great servant for the club...

Do you think they'll get rid of Chevanton? Weren't they trying to flog him off last summer/winter?

What Im worried about if Barca sign Alves, is that when he's bombing up and down the right if he'll take away from some of Messi's mazey runs, Alves ideally likes having all of the right side to himself...

Do you watch La Liga regularly? If you have, you'll see that in a team with Fabiano, Kanoute and Alves, you could definitely make a case for Capel being Sevilles most impressive player this season, he would be the best improved young player in la liga bar Aguero...

Chevanton is like my hero , doubt you seen his goal celebrations towards Ramos when he scored.

Alves can **** right off, he doesnt want to play for us so **** him, Keita...you can **** off hes ours

kdjac

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 12:53am

KdjaCL wrote: »

Chevanton is like my hero , doubt you seen his goal celebrations towards Ramos when he scored.

Alves can **** right off, he doesnt want to play for us so **** him, Keita...you can **** off hes ours

kdjac

What was his goal celebration?? :P

Realistically, the only reason Alves is still at the club is because he thought it would be inappropriate to harp on about his need to leave during the Puerta incident, which meant he was stuck with the club for another season... I don't like how vocal he has been about his need to leave, but I guess he's always been a bit of a flamboyant personality...

Keita

Toure

Good midfield for hard away games, no longer will we see the days of Barca's midfield being over powered... =P

titan18 wrote: »

Not really,Ronaldo,Walcott,Evra,Martins,HenryAgbonlahor and Ivica Olic along with many others are much faster than him.

Ronaldo,henry and Walcott are much faster on the ball aswell

This is what I mean, his acceleration, especially from a standing position;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OKMehuflsZA&feature=related

titan18 · 24-05-2008 1:02am

Ronaldo,Henry and Walcott are still much faster

Heres Walcott

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3e0Y09kHw

Henry
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iWT7f_YI8t0&feature=related
oops.Sorry about that

I cant find a video where Ronaldo isnt running with the ball to compare but we all know hes very fast

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 1:07am

titan18 wrote: »

Ronaldo,Henry and Walcott are still much faster

Heres Walcott

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3e0Y09kHw

Henry
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3e0Y09kHw

I cant find a video where Ronaldo isnt running with the ball to compare but we all know hes very fast

Much faster? in all those videos their top speed is faster than messi's, but its definitely not much faster, and I still don't think their acceleration from a standing position is as good as Messi's..

Anyway, the day we start comparing Walcott's total all around ability to Messi's will be a sad sad day for young Theo...

Back on topic though, Aguero and Capel would be my two choices.

Xavi6 · 24-05-2008 6:09am

Melion wrote: »

Surprised nobody has mentioned Daniel Sturridge yet

This could be his make or break year I think. If we sign a couple of strikers he won't get a look in unfortunately. He should have gotten more of a run last season considering our limited options up top. Certainly a massive talent.

Also keep an eye out for Vladamir Weiss. Anyone who wached the FA Youth Cup final will know who I mean.

davyjose · 24-05-2008 9:17am

Galvasean wrote: »

Theo Walcott.

Now before everyone says 'WTF?!!?' just remember he had a great finalé to the end of the season. If he can keep up the form for next season he could be a leading Premier League star.

Yeah, I agree

Tusky · 24-05-2008 12:52pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Theo Walcott.

Now before everyone says 'WTF?!!?' just remember he had a great finalé to the end of the season. If he can keep up the form for next season he could be a leading Premier League star.

People said that last year...and the year before!

Bounty Hunter · 24-05-2008 12:56pm

Tusky wrote: »

People said that last year...and the year before!

People expected too much too soon he only just turned 19 last month afterall

Pepe LeFrits · 24-05-2008 2:20pm

eZe^ wrote: »

Do you watch La Liga regularly? If you have, you'll see that in a team with Fabiano, Kanoute and Alves, you could definitely make a case for Capel being Sevilles most impressive player this season, he would be the best improved young player in la liga bar Aguero...

That's all well and good, but what has that got to do with him being out paced by Arsenal's full-backs?

Many of the players mentioned here may be prospects alright but not for next season.

Sqaull20 · 24-05-2008 6:40pm

eZe^ wrote: »

Much faster? in all those videos their top speed is faster than messi's, but its definitely not much faster, and I still don't think their acceleration from a standing position is as good as Messi's..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqN-zGnyOfw

eZe^ · 24-05-2008 7:16pm

Sqaull20 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqN-zGnyOfw

Hardly much faster... Ive said numerous times they all have a faster top speed, Im talking about acceleration...

Sqaull20 · 25-05-2008 12:00am

eZe^ wrote: »

Hardly much faster..

Messi's acceleration is second to none in the world at the moment.

:eek:

He left him for dead with the ball!

Messi has many gifts, but incredible speed isnt one of them..

Beanmachine · 25-05-2008 2:11pm

charlie mchugh wrote: »

Arda Turan - Galatasaray - 21

One way or another this chap will end up in the prem next season. Hopefully the Toon can nick him by tempting Galatasaray with Emre, but I have a feeling the Spuds may nick this one on us as well.

Turan looks a real prospect only a matter of time before a premier league club snaps him up.

other prospects for this season

Georginho Wijnaldum - Feyenoord

Henri Saivet - Girondins De Bordeaux...maybe not until next season as he's still 17 i think and still only playing for the frence under 17's

kryogen · 27-05-2008 4:49am

May or may not have been mentioned already, meant to mention him myself earlier.

Matthieu Valbuena...Marseille. not a teenager, but last year he started to fulfill the promise he has shown, Liverpool fans will know who im talking about. Well, they should, he scored against them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rETAki1k36U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqr1FpDpz0&feature=related

the music is super ghey in the second link but it does have replays of the goal against the pool which deserves to be seen!

Staying with Marseille, their emerging goalkeeper Steve Mandanda is looking pretty good, great reflexes and very good shot stopping. wouldnt say no to him!...eh youtube clips are few and far between but heres one, some of the saves toward the end of the vid are amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMjaCVkA5a4&feature=related

gustavo · 27-05-2008 11:35am

Seamie Coleman , Sligo Rovers (hopefully)

wandatowell · 27-05-2008 2:40pm

Its Ashley Young for me, what a class act

SantryRed · 28-05-2008 4:04pm

wandatowell wrote: »

Its Ashley Young for me, what a class act

Should he still be classed as a prospect? He's been playing first team football for two years in the Premiership. I think everyone know what he's made of and can't really be a prospect.

Seaneh · 28-05-2008 4:30pm

Death or Glory wrote: »

Fabian Delph - Leeds

Thomas Pekhart- Tottenham

what i've seen of him, he looks damned good but would he not be hitting 21 around now?

Seaneh · 28-05-2008 4:56pm

For me next season is all about Alberto Paloschi and Pato, these two are going to be quality!

Peyton Manning · 28-05-2008 4:59pm

Rodrigo Possebon

SantryRed · 28-05-2008 5:12pm

Anyways, spill the beans people.

How many of yous are forming your opinions on up and coming prospects from Football Manager 08?:p

Seaneh · 28-05-2008 5:19pm

SantryRed wrote: »

Anyways, spill the beans people.

How many of yous are forming your opinions on up and coming prospects from Football Manager 08?:p

I reckon the guy who said Pekhart got that for FM07 because he's god like in that.

Smegball · 28-05-2008 5:23pm

Archimedes wrote: »

Rodrigo Possebon

The boy looks a class act, but seriously doubt he will get a run next season with the likes of Hargreaves, Carrick, Anderson, Scholes and Fletcher ahead of him.
From what I've seem, admittedly very little but he reminds me of Xabi Alonso, very composed on the ball.
Really hope he gets a decent run in the Carling Cup and maybe even FA Cup

Peyton Manning · 28-05-2008 5:26pm

With the 7 sub rule coming into effect, I expect him to feature 10-15 times next season. I have really high hopes for him.

Mitch Connor · 28-05-2008 9:59pm

Archimedes wrote: »

With the 7 sub rule coming into effect, I expect him to feature 10-15 times next season. I have really high hopes for him.

I'd have loved if the rule had been the two additional subs had to be home-grown.

Wouldn't have helped Possebon really, but i think it would have been good.

~Rebel~ · 29-05-2008 12:10am

Tauren wrote: »

I'd have loved if the rule had been the two additional subs had to be home-grown.

Wouldn't have helped Possebon really, but i think it would have been good.

or even if they had to be under 21's or something

Xavi6 · 29-05-2008 4:03am

Ched Evans - Manchester City

Quality young striker who averaged pretty much a goal every other game on loan at Norwich last season. Scored a cracker of a backheel on his debut for Wales tonight as well and has been awarded a new contract with City.

EDIT: And here's the goal -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgOQHrxlj5U

Most Exciting Young Prospects For 2008/2009

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