Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2008/2009

Tusky

hunter164 wrote: »

Jesus, get out a bit more will ya.Where you from?

You do realize you are posting in a Liverpool fc thread on an Irish forum, yes ? 99.9% of the people that post here are Irish Liverpool fans.

hunter164

So am I!!!!!

King John V

hunter164 wrote: »

Well why are youse all having Mickey fits when a fella slags Liverpool??

That's a very strong way to put it but alot of fans here have supported Liverpool since they were kids. They've been there through the club's ups and downs, the highs and lows and if you invest that much time, energy and emotion into something of course your passion will occasionaly show.

If you're on about the banter between posters here. Well, I like to think that's no different to the innocent exchanges people would have across a bar stool. Often written stuff can come across blunter than intended but with no real meaning .

hunter164

King John V wrote: »

That's a very strong way to put it but alot of fans here have supported Liverpool since they were kids. They've been there through the club's ups and downs, the highs and lows and if you invest that much time, energy and emotion into something of course your passion will occasionaly show.

Was that from your couch or barstool?

King John V

hunter164 wrote: »

Was that from your couch or barstool?

What are you suggesting Mr Hunter? That my little bit of passion is thanks to 9/10 pints and a few small ones? I'll have you know that I never engage in verbal battles about soccer under the influence of alcoholic beverages. I'm cultured and civilised in all these matters. The cheek of ya :pac:.

IrishMike

hunter164 wrote: »

Was that from your couch or barstool?

Do yourself a favour and quit while you are ahead.
This is a Liverpool rumours and general discussion thread, hows about we keep it that way?
Next topic please .....

mormank

i read somewhere that we are in discussions with kaka as ronaldinho is planning on going to milan. club aint big enough for both. this would be signing of the decade for us....(almost certain it was just paper talk)

but made me think. who do ppl think is the pools best signing of the naughties?? might be nolstalgic...i will propose big sammi...

~Rebel~

mormank wrote: »

but made me think. who do ppl think is the pools best signing of the naughties?? might be nolstalgic...i will propose big sammi...

we bought him in 1999...

GBX

Didi .. signed in 1999.

joe123

Linked with Michael Johnson from city now....seriously why? We have more than enough central midfielders....

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=716075

That Rierra fellas bid was rejected aswell. Dont think hes good enough to be honest. Rafa makes some strange transfer dealings.

~Rebel~

joe123 wrote: »

Linked with Michael Johnson from city now....seriously why? We have more than enough central midfielders....

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=716075

That Rierra fellas bid was rejected aswell. Dont think hes good enough to be honest. Rafa makes some strange transfer dealings.

with alonso seemingly on his bike, id imagine Johnson is the backup if we fail to get Barry from Villa.

IrishMike

mormank wrote: »

i read somewhere that we are in discussions with kaka as ronaldinho is planning on going to milan. club aint big enough for both. this would be signing of the decade for us....(almost certain it was just paper talk)

but made me think. who do ppl think is the pools best signing of the naughties?? might be nolstalgic...i will propose big sammi...

Kaka?
Better chance of Mr Alan singing anti torres songs than that happening id say.
He plays in the same position as Gerrard, as much as i would love him
we have more pressing concerns like trying to get a #2 striker and some wingers
and a replacement for Alonso

IrishMike

joe123 wrote: »

Linked with Michael Johnson from city now....seriously why? We have more than enough central midfielders....

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=716075

That Rierra fellas bid was rejected aswell. Dont think hes good enough to be honest. Rafa makes some strange transfer dealings.

As was previously pointed out do we actually have enough in CM?
We have Masch, Lucas, Gerrard, Barry and Plessis if Alonso goes.
Gerrard plays as a striker these days and Masch and Lucas are heading off to
the olympics for the first 4 games of the season at least.
They will also probably need a rest or pick up injuries no doubt on their return.
That leaves Barry and Plessis in CM for the start of the season.
Makes us very lightweight IMHO.

*Im obviously assuming Alonso will be sold and Barry will be replacing him.

Tusky

IrishMike wrote: »

As was previously pointed out do we actually have enough in CM?
We have Masch, Lucas, Gerrard, Barry and Plessis if Alonso goes.
Gerrard plays as a striker these days and Masch and Lucas are heading off to
the olympics for the first 4 games of the season at least.
They will also probably need a rest or pick up injuries no doubt on their return.
That leaves Barry and Plessis in CM for the start of the season.
Makes us very lightweight IMHO.

*Im obviously assuming Alonso will be sold and Barry will be replacing him.

In an ideal world we could do with maybe another youngster. Having said that, its still our strongest position! We are painfully weak up front and on the wings.

~Rebel~

also i very much doubt we'd start the season with Barry and Plessis in midfield. I have no doubt Gerrard would simply drop back and we'd either keep the same formation with someone like Yossi in the AMC role or else just go straight 4-4-2. Gerrard may not be quite as good in a standard CM role as he is in his attacking role but he's a damn site better then most and a million miles ahead of plessis there.

mormank

~Rebel~ wrote: »

we bought him in 1999...

dammit i knew someone would spot that. of course. so have we even had any signings that are worthy of being called our signing of the decade. bar maybe torres and he has only been here one year...

~Rebel~

mormank wrote: »

dammit i knew someone would spot that. of course. so have we even had any signings that are worthy of being called our signing of the decade. bar maybe torres and he has only been here one year...

the frontrunners i guess would be Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Reina, gary macalister.
Think Jari Litmanen would have been one had he not been criminally underused.

Riise would have been one until 2 years ago imo.

monkey9

For me, in terms of actually achieving something, the signing of the noughties has got to be Gary MacLegend. For a start, we got him for nothing and he played a massive part in us winning the treble. What a player!! He is one of my favourite all time Liverpool players and he was only there a couple of seasons.

King John V

Kaka? No chance unfortunately. If Chelsea are constantly been linked with a 50m move I'm afraid the pool just aren't at the races .

With the upcoming Olympics it ironically looks like Liverpool's greatest need for added strengthening would be the centre of midfield, along with another winger. Are the Olympics mid-August? If so, I wonder would Alonso's (seemingly very likely) transfer be put on hold until transfer deadline day? Or at least until someone else was drafted in to cover Lucas and Masch.

~Rebel~

I have to admit Kaka could be tasty for a very nice attacking formation. The problem being that it could be too attacking. But id very much doubt we could get him anyway such would be the bidding war if he decided to move on from Milan.

Arbeloa---Carra--Agger---Dossena

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Masch

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Gerrard--Kaka
---New

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Babel

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Torres

hunter164

He could wait til Jan

monkey9

Kaka? Ah here.................

GBX

monkey9 wrote: »

Kaka? Ah here.................

Well it is a "rumours" thread ... and its nice to dream ..

King John V

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I have to admit Kaka could be tasty for a very nice attacking formation. The problem being that it could be too attacking. But id very much doubt we could get him anyway such would be the bidding war if he decided to move on from Milan.

Arbeloa---Carra--Agger---Dossena

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Masch

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Gerrard--Kaka
---New

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Babel

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Torres

If 50m became available I'd sooner get 2x20m wingers (Silva and Van der Vaart)+ 1x10m striker as cover for Torres, than 1x Kaka.

A team with a solid defence (Carragher) and strong holding defenders (Masch) can never be too attacking :pac:.

~Rebel~

King John V wrote: »

If 50m became available I'd sooner get 2x20m wingers (Silva and Van der Vaart)+ 1x10m striker as cover for Torres, than 1x Kaka.

A team with a solid defence (Carragher) and strong holding defenders (Masch) can never be too attacking :pac:.

indeed, that much money could be better spent then blowing our load on just one player, just playing devils advocate on what we would have if we did get him. I dunno about 2 20mill wingers though, i want Babel given every chance to develop. 1 top notch winger (silva), a good backup winger and a good backup striker would do me. Dont think its too much to ask!

monkey9

GBX wrote: »

Well it is a "rumours" thread ... and its nice to dream ..

I take your point!!!!

Jesus, Kaka and Torres in the same team!!!!! Look, any chance of getting Messi as well! I promise, i won't ask for anything else!!

I just realised that the above sounds like i would like Jesus in the team as well. Where do you think he would play?? I certainly wouldn't put him in goal....not after the crucifixion. Although in saying that, he'd probably be still better than Itjande.

King John V

hunter164 wrote: »

He could wait til Jan

He could, but I guess the arguement then reverts back to: would using the transfer funds generated by Alonso now be put to better use in getting Barry now. The old potential vs consistency debate. The general consensus seems to be that Gerrard and Barry work well together (especially after the other night) so who knows...

King John V

~Rebel~ wrote: »

indeed, that much money could be better spent then blowing our load on just one player, just playing devils advocate on what we would have if we did get him. I dunno about 2 20mill wingers though, i want Babel given every chance to develop. 1 top notch winger (silva), a good backup winger and a good backup striker would do me. Dont think its too much to ask!

Fully agree. 2 wingers is a luxury but even getting 1 would be enough. Babel really impressed me in the CL especially so I'd love to see him develop a bit more in the first team. With alot of maturity and youth on his side he should be there for years and then there's Kuyt. So, things are looking pretty good.

Mr Alan

"Adios la!"

Quality, love that lad something fierce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIb12aX0yks

Unearthly

Is that Lee Pressley from Dream Team at the end?

Legend

Pyjamarama

Mr Alan wrote: »

"Adios la!"

Quality, love that lad something fierce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIb12aX0yks

Genius!!! Total genius!!!

Nananananaanananananana

mormank

monkey9 wrote: »

For me, in terms of actually achieving something, the signing of the noughties has got to be Gary MacLegend. For a start, we got him for nothing and he played a massive part in us winning the treble. What a player!! He is one of my favourite all time Liverpool players and he was only there a couple of seasons.

ya its gotta be gary doesnt it!!! but doesnt that say something about our signings!!! remember that free kick he scored from 156 yards to ensure qualification to the champs league!!!

i hope in years to come we are talkin bout torres the same way gooners fans are about henry...we would need a league or two tho i reckon. a gooner's friend of mine told me the other day he still loved henry and would forgive and forget in a heartbeat!! compare that to michael owen for example, i wouldnt take him back now if he begged!!!!

IrishMike

mormank wrote: »

ya its gotta be gary doesnt it!!! but doesnt that say something about our signings!!! remember that free kick he scored from 156 yards to ensure qualification to the champs league!!!

The one against Everton? Complete classic
By the way i think you will find it was 157 yards and he had only 1 leg at the time!

IrishMike

This mornings rumours

And Man City midfield playmaker Michael Johnson, 20, is a shock £8m target for Everton. (The Sun)

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez hopes to persuade Argentinean midfielder Javier Mascherano to snub playing at the Beijing Olympics. (The Sun)

Liverpool plan to give star striker Fernando Torres a £4m pay rise. The extra £400,000-a-year is designed to see off interest from Chelsea. (The Sun)

machiavellianme

IrishMike wrote: »

This mornings rumours

Wonderful source on all 3.

mike65

I belive one of them - Masch at the olympics.

Mike.

RE*AC*TOR

I'd rather no rumours than ones posted from THAT rag.

No Liverpool fan should be promoting anything published by that shower.

Malice

Mr Alan wrote: »

"Adios la!"

Quality, love that lad something fierce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIb12aX0yks

I quite liked the bit where the Cavern is being renamed Caverna .

machiavellianme

monkey9 wrote: »

I take your point!!!!

Jesus, Kaka and Torres in the same team!!!!! Look, any chance of getting Messi as well! I promise, i won't ask for anything else!!

I just realised that the above sounds like i would like Jesus in the team as well. Where do you think he would play?? I certainly wouldn't put him in goal....not after the crucifixion. Although in saying that, he'd probably be still better than Itjande.

Why not, he spreads himself well and is not afraid of a cross?
According to Catholic doctrine he has saved more than anyone ever will.

The only thing going against him is the fact that he's not spanish or south american

RE*AC*TOR

mike65 wrote: »

I belive one of them - Masch at the olympics.

Mike.

Which was published yesterday by Tony Barrett in the Liverpool Echo.

zing

And was on lfc.tv too

Chardee MacDennis

i love how a £400,000 a year pay rise some how becomes £4m??? what is it a ten year contract! full of bs...

Malice

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

I'd rather no rumours than ones posted from THAT rag.

No Liverpool fan should be promoting anything published by that shower.

Well said!

Mr Alan

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

Which was published yesterday by Tony Barrett in the Liverpool Echo.

all that shower do is steal TBs stories all the ****ing time, even try and pass most of them off as exclusives

even the story about the 2 scouse builders and Gary Neville appearing in it the other day....do you really think those two lads would sell their story to that rag if they were such avid reds? not on your ****ing life. strange how all the quotes are word for word identical to the article about them in last months edition of The Kop....****ing gutter press at it worst that bunch

monkey9

machiavellianme wrote: »

Why not, he spreads himself well and is not afraid of a cross?
According to Catholic doctrine he has saved more than anyone ever will.

The only thing going against him is the fact that he's not spanish or south american

I suppose with his long hair and beard....put an alice band on him and we could pass him off as South America!!!!!
But give him a season and Chelsea will be putting bids in for him.
Ultimately though, Jesus isn't fit to shine Torres' boots

mike65

zing wrote: »

And was on lfc.tv too

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

Which was published yesterday by Tony Barrett in the Liverpool Echo.

That would explain it then.

Mike.

IrishMike

machiavellianme wrote: »

Wonderful source on all 3.

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

I'd rather no rumours than ones posted from THAT rag.

No Liverpool fan should be promoting anything published by that shower.

Quoted on the BBC website aswell
Rumours is rumours, is the source important?
I dont think so because 99% of them are not going to come true anyway.

Karmafaerie

monkey9 wrote: »

machiavellianme wrote:

Why not, he spreads himself well and is not afraid of a cross?
According to Catholic doctrine he has saved more than anyone ever will.

The only thing going against him is the fact that he's not spanish or south american

I suppose with his long hair and beard....put an alice band on him and we could pass him off as South America!!!!!
But give him a season and Chelsea will be putting bids in for him.
Ultimately though, Jesus isn't fit to shine Torres' boots

Well with a name like "Jesus" he even sounds South American!

I reckon we should try something like

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Reina

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The Flash----Paul O'Connell

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Carragher

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Speedy Gonzales

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Mascherano

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Chuck Norris

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Jesus

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Gerrard

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Babel

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Torres

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GBX

IrishMike wrote: »

Quoted on the BBC website aswell
Rumours is rumours, is the source important?
I dont think so because 99% of them are not going to come true anyway.

But dont the BBC gather the newspapers gossip/rumours and load them on their site? So still the Sun

King John V

You know it's a dry day in the Anfield rumour mill when you see headlines like "Chelsea want Torres" or "Grant shows admiration for Gerrard". What club doesn't? They're among the best in the world.
It gets better when you see the tabloid "facts" getting borrowed for mainstream press.