England goalkeeping crisis?

Zaph

Whatever about Trapattoni calling up Westwood from Carlisle, is there really such a dearth of English goalkeepers that Capello has to resort to calling up a player just promoted from League Two?

Posh keeper given England call-up

England coach Fabio Capello has brought Peterborough goalkeeper Joe Lewis into his squad after Chris Kirkland returned to Wigan due to a back injury.

The Football Association said Kirkland looks set to miss Wednesday's friendly against the United States after having muscle spasms in his back.

Lewis and Peterborough won promotion to League One this season.

The 20-year-old became Peterborough's record signing in January when he signed for £400,000 from Norwich.

"This is fantastic news for Joe and Peterborough United," Peterborough director of football Barry Fry told the club's official website.

"It will be a fantastic experience for him."

If Lewis makes his debut, he will join a small group of players including Johnny Byrne, Peter Taylor and Steve Bull who have played for England while plying their trade outside the top two divisions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7416439.stm

Looks like they really need Almunia to declare for them as soon as he's eligible in December.

mike65

Carson, Robinson, Foster, James - one of them must be fit! :pac:

Mike.

Charlie

If they were so desperate, Steve Harper would have been a great man for a callup. He ahs been super any time he has filled in for Shay, and in his recent run of games, he has been solid as a rock.

mike65

True enough - he never gets mentioned does he?

Mike.

Zaph

Yeah, Harper has always been solid and yet I've never heard him mentioned as a possible England player.

thusspakeblixa

What about Steve Simonsen of Stoke City?
Or even Nicky Weaver of Charlton?
Kelvin Davis?
Surely they aren't that desperate to overlook a lot of solid Championship Goalkeepers

pd101

Is Green injured too?

Bubs101

Surely Capello could convince Cudicini to declare if desperate.

bohsman

Id say Westwood at Carlisle could do a job for them, looked impressive against Leeds.

thusspakeblixa

Bubs101 wrote: »

Surely Capello could convince Cudicini to declare if desperate.

Did Cudicini not refuse to play for England a few years ago?

zAbbo

Surely CItys Joe Hart would be in line before some League 2 keeper.

shane86

re Aluminia, dont you have to gain a passport in an adopted country before age 20 to be eligible (except for granny rulers).

Xavi6

Joe Hart is all they need. Along with James he's the most in form English keeper.

kensutz

Joe Lewis is a brilliant goalkeeper and all us Norwich fans were disgusted at him being sold to Posh. Greeno is on holidays doing a 3 week trek in Africa so he was unavailable for the friendly.

Edit: And he's a League 1 goalkeeper now.

Zaph

zAbbo wrote: »

Surely CItys Joe Hart would be in line before some League 2 keeper.

Hart and James are the other two keepers in the squad.

shane86 wrote: »

re Aluminia, dont you have to gain a passport in an adopted country before age 20 to be eligible (except for granny rulers).

Don't know what the exact rules are now, but Almunia apparently qualifies for a British passport on December 29th, unless Spain call him up in the meantime.

arbeitsscheuer

shane86 wrote: »

re Aluminia, dont you have to gain a passport in an adopted country before age 20 to be eligible (except for granny rulers).

Nope. Merely have to be resident in the UK 5 years and (obviously) to not have played a full international for your 'original' national side.

Frankly I'd love to go back to a time when you could pretty much play for anyone. Di Stefano played for Spain, Argentina and Colombia during his career. Puskas for Hungary and Spain. Kubala for Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Spain. Be hilarious to see sh*t like that happening now.

Altho maybe that's just cos I couldn't give much of a f**k about international football tbh.

ALMUNIA FOR ENGLAND:D

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamBack/Eligibiliy.html

Attractive Nun

Whatever about current injuries, England have a shedload of decent keepers. James, Robinson, Hart, Foster, Green, Carson, Harper, Kirkland etc. They do need someone to step up to become clear first choice (James has done that this season, but he's getting on - it'll probably be Foster by 2010), but the need to resort to calling up random Championship keepers is not a long-term issue.

kensutz

Attractive Nun wrote: »

Whatever about current injuries, England have a shedload of decent keepers. James, Robinson, Hart, Foster, Green, Carson, Harper, Kirkland etc. They do need someone to step up to become clear first choice (James has done that this season, but he's getting on - it'll probably be Foster by 2010), but the need to resort to calling up random Championship keepers is not a long-term issue.

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Xavi6

I really don't see the problem. Previous England manager's were criticised for not picking players who were on fire in the lower leagues, Andy Johnson being a prime example. Now Capello is thinking outside the box, proving there's more to life than the Premiership, and there's criticism. The mind boggles.

Is there a valid reason as to why he should not be picked?

titan18

No,hes a very good keeper

kensutz

Joe Lewis has also played for England at every underage level. We get some cash if he makes an appearance which is unlikely but good to see him get the call up. I know him from going to away matches with him and Man United were rumoured to be looking at him.

estebancambias

EDIT: Damn, I really should have looked before I said that.

Chardee MacDennis

the english manager will be critized no matter what he does, IF england were to win the world cup, the press would still give him hassle in the next friendly.

calling up Lewis says two things, the first to lower league players that you dont have to be in the prem to get a call up if you;re good enough and secondly to the prem players that just because they play in the prem they dont deserve a call up. Everyone earns their plasce. Fair play to Capello.

kmart6

There's no crisis at all,it's only friendlies!

Corben Dallas

Isnt James an auto choice for teh moment? in good form. surely Cappelo just has to sort cover? what about Gordon (Sunderland keeper) is he english? seems godd enuff to be given a try out.

Alumina has'nt impressed at all any time i've seen him play for Arsenal. ppl seem to think hes good but I feel hes hugely overrated. If Aresnal arent looking for a top line replacement in goal, its 3rd place again next yr.

SantryRed

Corben Dallas wrote: »

what about Gordon (Sunderland keeper) is he english? seems godd enuff to be given a try out.

He's Scotland's number one mate:D

leninbenjamin

Corben Dallas wrote: »

what about Gordon (Sunderland keeper) is he english?

lozzlemolotov!

Fratton Fred

Why all this talk about Alumina? there are 5 or 6 English goalkeepers better than him. If he was 19 then I could understnd the fuss, but he's no spring chicken. Most of the noise is made by Arsenal fans who are desperate to have an English player at the Emirates

It's only a friendly, what's the point of having them if you don't experiment a bit. I would guess Capello hasn't seen a lot of league one football so it gives him a chance to take a look at a player with a growing reputation.

mormank

england are FAR from a goalkeeping crisis!! just because they do not have the resources of a country like spain for example doesnt mean they have a crisis. robinson. carson. james. foster. green. kirkland. off the top of my head, not to mention cuducini if the italian coach wanst him or almunia. even richard wright is around somewhere and stuart taylor is english and had premiership experience and also harper...

oh yeah, some crisis!!! thats 11 premiership goalies, oooh what a problem!!

lock thread now plz mods.....

haha, i even forgot about joe hart..haha, the crisis gets even worse!! if thats a crisis then omg they are screwed for centre backs. uh oh. better start a thread concerning englands shortage of premiership centre backs cos im pretty sure they do not have 11 cover centre backs for each of the two starting berths..maybe they should look at changin formations to counter this lack of cover!!! lol

Nalz

Corben Dallas wrote: »

what about Gordon (Sunderland keeper) is he english? seems godd enuff to be given a try out.

taxi

Fratton Fred

Corben Dallas wrote: »

what about Gordon (Sunderland keeper) is he english? seems godd enuff to be given a try out.

A scottish goalkeeper being touted for England, maybe we do have a crisis, or something is wrong with the natural order of things.;)

String

Its a joke Green hasn't been given a chance. Hes young and very reliable, great under pressure and great at peno's.

SantryRed

DrMorphine wrote: »

Its a joke Green hasn't been given a chance. Hes young and very reliable, great under pressure and great at peno's.

Don't agree with you saying he's very reliable. That's Green's one weak point. His decision making at times is some what dreadful. If he could clean that up he will be England's number one for years to come.

wandatowell

Chris Kirkland- Always thought he was very good, pretty sure he's injured tho

kensutz

DrMorphine wrote: »

Its a joke Green hasn't been given a chance. Hes young and very reliable, great under pressure and great at peno's.

Obviously haven't followed his record prior to this season.

Zaph

wandatowell wrote: »

Chris Kirkland- Always thought he was very good, pretty sure he's injured tho

Yep, Lewis was called up as cover when Kirkland pulled out of the squad with an injury

String

kensutz wrote: »

Obviously haven't followed his record prior to this season.

If a player is improving they go by now not the past. Im sure if hes given a chance he would prove atleast he deserved to be in the squad.