Interesting Article

estebancambias

Eircom League Focus: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/features/eircomleague/


Really everyone must read this.




Everyone that has posted in this thread so far I mentioned in my original post, but I didn't want to sound like I was sucking dick, so I left out the names of people we should follow. I also didn't want to leave out any names that I might have forgot.

SantryRed

Very good read. And you really have to agree with most of what he's saying.

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Fair play dude, thanks for posting that.

ciaran76

A nice read that.

Gavin "shels"

I was just about to post that article. Quality read, even if it was written by a cricket fan.:D

marcphisto

In fairness, everything he says is right on the money.

estebancambias

Even if your a staunch Irish EPL/Serie A/La Liga fan you couldn't possibly say that this article is not right on the money.

I actually agree with GavinShels signature on reflection.

Gavin "shels"

estebancambias wrote: »

I actually agree with GavinShels signature on reflection.

Why thank you, I thought it up all by myself during a Maths exam in school or something.:D

hunter164

Interesting read.

invincibleirish

Great read but what exactly is new or ground breaking about it?

LuckyLloyd

invincibleirish wrote: »

Great read but what exactly is new or ground breaking about it?

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Gavin "shels"

invincibleirish wrote: »

Great read but what exactly is new or ground breaking about it?

Someone's actually said it in the media?

SectionF

Here's another excellent read from the Indo that's got an airing on football365 and elsewhere... ManU fans, and bandwagoner and barstoolers, look away now.

Man Utd men share in the miracle of martyrdom

OPENROAD

Interesting read.

hunter164

Very good article.

thusspakeblixa

I read that, and even as a Man United fan, I can see the point. And I know the exact people they speak of.
(my ''other'' team are Stuttgart, so don't be saying I'm a glory hunter)

Gavin "shels"

Another great article, but I prefer the first as it sums up the Irish football culture to a tee.

DSB

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

I read that, and even as a Man United fan, I can see the point. And I know the exact people they speak of.
(my ''other'' team are Stuttgart, so don't be saying I'm a glory hunter)

I do find it ironic how you've gotten the point but automatically assume its not about you.

thusspakeblixa

DSB wrote: »

I do find it ironic how you've gotten the point but automatically assume its not about you.

Well I mean my family never supported Irish clubs, it was always English clubs (and Stuttgart), so it would have been strange for me to support any team.
Also, in Crumlin we haven't got a ''local'' team.
...In saying that, I am giving it a try. I can only make it to 1 - 2 Stuttgart matches a year, so I miss live football. So, I'm going to my 1st Shels match on Friday!

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thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Well I mean my family never supported Irish clubs, it was always English clubs (and Stuttgart), so it would have been strange for me to support any team.
Also, in Crumlin we haven't got a ''local'' team.
...In saying that, I am giving it a try. I can only make it to 1 - 2 Stuttgart matches a year, so I miss live football. So, I'm going to my 1st Shels match on Friday!

In Wexford?

DSB

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Well I mean my family never supported Irish clubs, it was always English clubs (and Stuttgart), so it would have been strange for me to support any team.
Also, in Crumlin we haven't got a ''local'' team.
...In saying that, I am giving it a try. I can only make it to 1 - 2 Stuttgart matches a year, so I miss live football. So, I'm going to my 1st Shels match on Friday!

I didn't mean to be harsh about it or anything. I was just pointing out that I'm sure 99% of the people in question would give the same sort of response. Class that you're coming to the match on Friday. See you there.

DSB

DesF wrote: »

In Wexford?

Wexford is a home game.

thusspakeblixa

DesF wrote: »

In Wexford?

No it's Wexford Youths in Tolka, is it?

Gavin "shels"

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

No it's Wexford Youths in Tolka, is it?

It's in Tolka, don't mine Des he hasn't made many matches this year.:rolleyes:

Gavin "shels"

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Also, in Crumlin we haven't got a ''local'' team.

Well in all fairness does every area have to have a team at their doorstop to support. Sure takes me an hour some weeks to get to Tolka but well I don't care. Sure Tallaght will be up and running soon.;)

hunter164

Gav lives in Marioland and Luigi wouldn't set up a local team so he had to settle for Shels.

thusspakeblixa

Gavin shels wrote: »

Sure Tallaght will be up and running soon.;)

And get the 77?!
Hahahaha yeah I'd be lucky if I came back with a toenail.

invincibleirish

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Well I mean my family never supported Irish clubs, it was always English clubs

This is what the EL 'Ultras' cant fathom, a lot of Irish people just dont jump a bandwagon, people are influenced by family, friends etc. in following a team or league. Following English clubs isnt a fad, its a long held tradition.

Gavin "shels"

hunter164 wrote: »

Gav lives in Marioland and Luigi wouldn't set up a local team so he had to settle for Shels.

Not at all, all due to my dads mate Joe Reynolds (one of Shels best ever defenders I'm told).

thusspakeblixa

invincibleirish wrote: »

This is what the EL 'Ultras' cant fathom, a lot of Irish people just dont jump a bandwagon, people are influenced by family, friends etc. in following a team or league. Following English clubs isnt a fad, its a long held tradition.

Yeah thats how it was for me (and a lot of other people).
eg. I ''inherited'' Man U from my Uncle, my brother got it from me etc.

super_furry

hunter164 wrote: »

Gav lives in Marioland and Luigi wouldn't set up a local team so he had to settle for Shels.

Then as much as it pains me to say, he should support the Super Mario Bohs.

I still can't believe they brought that embarassment of banner to a game.

hunter164

Gavin shels wrote: »

Not at all, all due to my dads mate Joe Reynolds (one of Shels best ever defenders I'm told).

Gav don't lie right we all know the "Tenters" is a magical place.....
























Nah I'm only buzzing the "Tenters" is real.

DSB

invincibleirish wrote: »

This is what the EL 'Ultras' cant fathom, a lot of Irish people just dont jump a bandwagon, people are influenced by family, friends etc. in following a team or league. Following English clubs isnt a fad, its a long held tradition.

I don't think anyone was debating whether following English clubs was a new thing.

invincibleirish

DSB wrote: »

I don't think anyone was debating whether following English clubs was a new thing.

Nope but the tone of it appears to be debating whether its a bad thing or not (its not)

DSB

Nah I don't think liking the Premiership is wrong, living the life of a football fan through a TV is a bit detached from reality though.

thusspakeblixa

DSB wrote: »

Nah I don't think liking the Premiership is wrong, living the life of a football fan through a TV is a bit detached from reality though.

Well I mean if you're ''born into it'' and you aren't loaded, you don't really have a choice about watching the club you support on TV or not

DSB

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Well I mean if you're ''born into it'' and you aren't loaded, you don't really have a choice about watching the club you support on TV or not

So in essence you're not actually supporting the club at all?

thusspakeblixa

DSB wrote: »

So in essence you're not actually supporting the club at all?

Well I mean it feels like you do. I would be of the opinion that watching football on TV is a pale imitation of the live experience too. But realistically I can't be going to Manchester every weekend.

DSB

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Well I mean it feels like you do. I would be of the opinion that watching football on TV is a pale imitation of the live experience too. But realistically I can't be going to Manchester every weekend.

Thats pretty much the exact same way I feel to be honest. I mean I like Villa and I watch their games on TV and own the jerseys, but as far as being an actual fan, Shels are my team.

hunter164

Well said but you shouldn't buy the jerseys.

thusspakeblixa

DSB wrote: »

Thats pretty much the exact same way I feel to be honest. I mean I like Villa and I watch their games on TV and own the jerseys, but as far as being an actual fan, Shels are my team.

Thats me there (except haven't been to a match yet). But I mean I watch all the Man U and Stuttgart I can, and I try to go over a fair bit. (it's tough to get other Irish Stuttgart fans to go with )

DSB

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Thats me there (except haven't been to a match yet). But I mean I watch all the Man U and Stuttgart I can, and I try to go over a fair bit. (it's tough to get other Irish Stuttgart fans to go with )

Why do you support Stuttgart anyway? Or if it was inherited from a family member, why do they?

thusspakeblixa

DSB wrote: »

Why do you support Stuttgart anyway? Or if it was inherited from a family member, why do they?

Heh, cos we originally came from near Stuttgart (around 1900) so since then it's just been tradition! And plus for a while they were the most unfashionable club in Germany, which I think drew a few back

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Leave early on Friday to get to Tolka.

Celine Dion is playing in Croker that night.

Traffic wil be a bleedin' nightmare.

thusspakeblixa

DesF wrote: »

Leave early on Friday to get to Tolka.

Celine Dion is playing in Croker that night.

Traffic wil be a bleedin' nightmare.

I'm getting the bus and then walking with a friend so I'd say it'll be grand.
Bleedin Celine Dion...

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thusspakeblixa wrote: »

I'm getting the bus and then walking with a friend so I'd say it'll be grand.
Bleedin Celine Dion...

I'm telling you, it won't.

The busses will be packed.

Leave early.

The bus has to get down O'Connell Street then up Dorset Street/Drumcondra Road.

Nightmare.

bohsman

Nothing new or ground breaking and people dont want to be told that they are hypocrites or glory hunters.

DSB

bohsman wrote: »

people dont want to be told that they are hypocrites or glory hunters.

Kinda stating the obvious there.

invincibleirish

bohsman wrote: »

Nothing new or ground breaking and people dont want to be told that they are hypocrites or glory hunters.

stop sucking lemons;)

-yours truly, hypocritical glory hunting Villa fan.

bohsman

"Kinda stating the obvious there."

Yea but if you read any of the countless glory hunter v holier than thou threads over the years very few seem to realise that.

bohsman

invincibleirish wrote: »

stop sucking lemons;)

-yours truly, hypocritical glory hunting Villa fan.

Im saying its a bad article, Ed Leahy is calling Utd and Celtic fans glory hunters, not me.