How low will you go?

Malari

Zulu wrote: »

I'm confused, are you trying to sugest that it's ok to dismiss a person because of something they can do nothing about (height), but not something they can change but don't (weight)?

Wow.

Yes, it's ok, as long as you don't offend the person. I'm saying weight and height are not interchangeable terms.

Saying you don't want to go out with an Asian person, say, because you don't really find their physical characters attractive is not a sleight on the Asian population in general. It is personal preference.

Malari

miles teg wrote: »

hey... I'm just telling you it's possible. If you want to be two faced about your posts, no concern to me

How am I being two-faced?

I don't get this protected things.
Most all of the ladies have said that violence is wrong and skanky in all circumstances in another thread recently.
When have you ever felt the desire to have a man protect you, that is relevant to his physical stature.
Would you also find skinny, unfit or non-muscular men unattractive on the same basis?

gordon_gekko

PeakOutput wrote: »

being taller rocks

i loathe being tall , im a little along with 6 ft 4 and never once in my life have i felt it to be an advantage where as the times it has been a problem are too numerous to mention
as for being tall giving you an advantage with the ladies , well lets put it this way , id much rather be 6 inches shorter and a whole lot prettier , looks are what counts with women , not height,

also , i would never marry a girl who was above average height as our off spring would have to suffer with the affliction of being too tall

many in here have refered to methoods of increasing your height , how about some suggestiosn on how to reduce your length

miles teg

Malari wrote: »

How am I being two-faced?

I gave evidence of the validity of a post which you asked for and then you just dismissed it... two faced imho

gordon_gekko

gordon_gekko wrote: »

looks are what counts with women

That is really not true, women are alot more practical than that.

Slow Motion

Moonbaby wrote: »

That is really not true, women are alot more practical than that.

True! It's the thickness of your wallet and the amount of cards you have;)

Malari

miles teg wrote: »

I gave evidence of the validity of a post which you asked for and then you just dismissed it... two faced imho

OK, I don't dismiss what you say, I do think that height is not something that can be changed really dramatically though. That was my point. A guy who is 5'5" is not going to turn himself into a 6 footer through exercise.

miles teg

Malari wrote: »

OK, I don't dismiss what you say, I do think that height is not something that can be changed really dramatically though. That was my point. A guy who is 5'5" is not going to turn himself into a 6 footer through exercise.

very true... as i said before though, we're all the same height lying down and that's what counts

Larianne

Moonbaby wrote: »

I don't get this protected things.
Most all of the ladies have said that violence is wrong and skanky in all circumstances in another thread recently.
When have you ever felt the desire to have a man protect you, that is relevant to his physical stature.
Would you also find skinny, unfit or non-muscular men unattractive on the same basis?

I'm about 5 foot 10, over six foot in heels (great if you're in a crowd!). I've just always felt that if I'm taller than a guy, its me whos the more manly than the guy! I like to have the guy hug me, not me hug the guy! I think it might be hard for guys to understand.

Predhead

Larianne wrote: »

I'm about 5 foot 10, over six foot in heels (great if you're in a crowd!). I've just always felt that if I'm taller than a guy, its me whos the more manly than the guy! I like to have the guy hug me, not me hug the guy! I think it might be hard for guys to understand.

Nah I'm a guy (same height as you) and I understand that. I don't think I'd like if a girl was as tall as me even. I prefer to be taller as I personally would feel weird being with a taller girl. I'd expect her to open doors for me etc..:p

Larianne

Predhead wrote: »

Nah I'm a guy (same height as you) and I understand that. I don't think I'd like if a girl was as tall as me even. I prefer to be taller as I personally would feel weird being with a taller girl. I'd expect her to open doors for me etc..:p

Yay someone who understands!

panda100

Predhead wrote: »

Nah I'm a guy (same height as you) and I understand that. I don't think I'd like if a girl was as tall as me even. I prefer to be taller as I personally would feel weird being with a taller girl. I'd expect her to open doors for me etc..:p

Thats why its crap being a 6'1 women,theres only 1% of the male population that is actually taller than you and they all go for smaller girls anyway

Larianne

Larianne wrote: »

I'm about 5 foot 10, over six foot in heels (great if you're in a crowd!). I've just always felt that if I'm taller than a guy, its me whos the more manly than the guy! I like to have the guy hug me, not me hug the guy! I think it might be hard for guys to understand.

I'm a 5ft 9, I have shoulders like a linebacker, most all my interests are male dominated.
Nothing short of waking up with my own pee pee could make me feel manly.

Much to my annoyance, I have found from my line of work. That most all men are physically stronger than me regardless of the height difference.
My ex is the only man I have met so far who wasn't and his hugs were like death vices.

That is all pretty irrevelant.
I just don't know if it is healthy to pass up a good opportunity, because of some self esteem issue.
I'd love to be taller, I don't think it effects my feminity one bit.

Scruff

Me waits patiently for more threads such as

"How hairy would you go"
"How poor would you go"
"How ugly would you go"
"How fat would you go"
"How low on the socio-economic ladder would you go"
"How bald (not shaven) would you go"
"How long a dong would you do"

for more insights into females justsifying their preferences saying its not bitchyness in any way, they just cant help what they prefer.

tribulus

A few of them have been done already.

Predhead

panda100 wrote: »

Thats why its crap being a 6'1 women,theres only 1% of the male population that is actually taller than you and they all go for smaller girls anyway

Well that's just what I'd go for. If for example I met you and we hit it off and I really liked you, I wouldn't let your height/my lack off get in the way.

Rozabeez

Deleted User wrote: »

Im 6"3, was seein a girl who was scrapin 5 foot for a while. Needless to say, it didnt work out.

See, we're not pigs, it works both ways.

I do find tall men very attractive though, there's just something about it. RAR.

Zulu

Malari wrote: »

I'm saying weight and height are not interchangeable terms.

Why not?

It is personal preference.

Hey I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out a double standard. Personally I wouldn't touch a fat chick with a barge pole.



ohh, runs for cover.

Predhead

Zulu wrote: »

Why not?
Hey I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out a double standard. Personally I wouldn't touch a fat chick with a barge pole.



ohh, runs for cover.

:pac::pac::pac:

tribulus

lol

RedXIV

Never had such an ego boost reading this thread.

6ft4 and laughing

Thank you ladies lounge

Predhead

RedXIV wrote: »

Never had such an ego boost reading this thread.

6ft4 and laughing

Thank you ladies lounge

Means nothing if you've a face like a melted welly! :pac:

RedXIV

Predhead wrote: »

Means nothing if you've a face like a melted welly! :pac:

Why do you think i needed the ego boost? :eek:

Scruff

tribulus wrote: »

A few of them have been done already.

Doh! should pay attention to the ladies thread more often....its seems they occasionally say some interesting and funny things. Who knew!

Lockstep

panda100 wrote: »

Thats why its crap being a 6'1 women,theres only 1% of the male population that is actually taller than you and they all go for smaller girls anyway

It's way more about the girl herself. Height really isn't an issue to most guys I know, if the girl hits the right places in all other aspects then her height is irelevant.

Predhead

RedXIV wrote: »

Why do you think i needed the ego boost? :eek:

:pac: Couldn't be that bad surely...not if you've a handsome mug like Ken!

Malari

Zulu wrote: »

Why not?
Hey I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out a double standard.

Because, as I explained, it's generally easier to change your weight than your height!

Zulu wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't touch a fat chick with a barge pole.



ohh, runs for cover.

That must be why you see so many "fat chicks" covered with bruises. You should be more careful where you point that barge pole of yours.

justsomebloke

I have to say as a male I wouldn't really care if a woman was taller then me. However I could see why some women wouldn't like being with a shorter man as I know there are a good few men out there who would be intimidated by a taller partner and knowing your partner is intimidated by you is just not sexy.

Oh and I 5'10 just to put it all in perspective

geffkane

So what was it that first attracted you to billionaire dwarf Bernie Ecclestone?

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/siren/slideshow/opposites-attract/img_8.jpg

GirlInterrupted

I personally don't care if a man is short, I don't mind being taller than them and it doesnt put me off heels, the only thing I object to is little men who compensate by being obnoxious to waiting staff and such. Being rude is not the same as being big. And whats with tiny men and huge cars? No, pal - you're still short, get over it. Same thing with cigars - not fooling anyone!

Lockstep

Ugh yeah,


In the female form, it seems to manifest itself in never shutting up like a little terrier whereas in men it's being an obnoxious little Napoleon.

Ginny

I'm 5'6", last Boyfriends were 5'9" then 6'1", I seem to gravitate towards taller men, I think if a man was a good few inches shorter then me I might be concious of it, but so far there's never been the spark with a shorter guy.
I tend to wear huge heels anyway so anyone under 6' would probably be shorter then me when we went out.

nomorebadtown

well i'm no prize bull myself but luckily none of the girls i've dated have had "daddy issues" and as such have not needed the "protect them" element in the relationship. They have gone out with me because i'm sound, decent looking and a laugh to be around (and modest to boot:p)...besides, havnt you girls heard of pepper spray? plus, a 5ft zero guy can plung a broken pint glass into the crotch of an attacker just as well as a tall guy. i think that while girls pillory the shallowness of men, this going for taller guys has a lot to do with what other people think...they dont want to be seen with a less that 6ft....its akin to guys comparing who caught the biggest fish etc...

nomorebadtown

nomorebadtown wrote: »

well i'm no prize bull myself but luckily none of the girls i've dated have had "daddy issues" and as such have not needed the "protect them" element in the relationship. They have gone out with me because i'm sound, decent looking and a laugh to be around (and modest to boot:p)...besides, havnt you girls heard of pepper spray? plus, a 5ft zero guy can plung a broken pint glass into the crotch of an attacker just as well as a tall guy. i think that while girls pillory the shallowness of men, this going for taller guys has a lot to do with what other people think...they dont want to be seen with a less that 6ft....its akin to guys comparing who caught the biggest fish etc...

Hey! Maybe I don't need anyone to protect me because of my Daddy issues!
Would fancy 17 stone of mortally offended and shotgun wielding daddy coming in your direction?

BKtje

Moonbaby wrote:

I don't get this protected things.

I don't either, height surely has very little say in how well he can or cannot protect you apart from maybe against the wind. I'll grant that it's handy for lifting stuff off the high shelves or being able to find him in a crowd etc but otherwise i can't see it.

Could it be to do with the fact that taller/larger people are generally noticed first and that some women just don't want to be the first thing people notice about a couple( ie showing off your man?). The reverse would also work then (ie tall guys, shorter girls) as being the tall guy means you'd be noticed first and it keeps the attention away from your missus (initially) as some men don't like other guys eyeing up their woman.
I'm sure someone will come along and blow my theory out of the water in a minute though.

I have noticed that i tend to go for women around my height/shorter than me. Never been a conscious decision but it is a trend that i have noticed after having this conversation in a pub a while ago. I'm 5 9ish i guess maybe 510 on a good day .

Loopy

I remember years ago, myself and a mate were in a pub sittingbeside these 2 lovely guys.

We were all getting on great and my mate really fancied one of them. She stood up to go to the loo at the same time as him and Id say she was about 3inches taller. It was hilarious, the poor guy was mortified. It looked like they were going to get it on before he stood up. Didn't happen though.

Star Lord

kickoutthejams wrote: »

It's way more about the girl herself. Height really isn't an issue to most guys I know, if the girl hits the right places in all other aspects then her height is irelevant.

nomorebadtown wrote: »

i think that while girls pillory the shallowness of men, this going for taller guys has a lot to do with what other people think...they dont want to be seen with a less that 6ft....its akin to guys comparing who caught the biggest fish etc...

These two quotes sum this up very well I think...

It seems to come down to a combination of vanity and self confidence.

Why should it make one blind bit of difference what height the guy is?

You ladies are always going on about how personality and sense of humour are the two most important things, yet here we get a thread where a girl went out on a date with a guy who (although being taller than her) was an inch shorter than her in her heels... so despite him being a nice guy, he automatically gets disregarded. To be honest, I'm completely disgusted by this and disappointed in so many of you!

I'm only around 5'6, my girlfriend is about 5'7, and of course much taller in her heels, but it doesn't make a bit of difference to us, as we get on fantastically. I'm just glad I got someone genuine, and not so petty and shallow to completely disregard someone based on their height, as judging by this thread, there's not many of them.

Fair play to the few of you ladies who don't consider it, and don't make an issue of it.

geffkane

geffkane wrote: »

So what was it that first attracted you to billionaire dwarf Bernie Ecclestone?

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/siren/slideshow/opposites-attract/img_8.jpg

Actually she is a former prostitue. I imagine the first attraction as... oohh hang on.

Reku

*suspects maybe the girls don't want to admit that they're hoping his body's length might be proportional to the length of something else...*:p
Afterall, we all know the big feet thing is a myth.

nomorebadtown

DamoElDiablo wrote:

It seems to come down to a combination of vanity and self confidence.

The more I read this forum, the more I come to the conclusion that the combination of these two factors is one of the major driving forces behind most of the things women do.

DamoElDiablo wrote:

It You ladies are always going on about how personality and sense of humour are the two most important things, yet here we get a thread where a girl went out on a date with a guy who (although being taller than her) was an inch shorter than her in her heels... so despite him being a nice guy, he automatically gets disregarded. To be honest, I'm completely disgusted by this and disappointed in so many of you!.

Agreed. At least men admit to being shallow. Personality and sense of humour my arse, the hypocrisy in here is suffocating.

farohar wrote: »

*suspects maybe the girls don't want to admit that they're hoping his body's length might be proportional to the length of something else...*:p
Afterall, we all know the big feet thing is a myth.

Yeah I thought of that too but when it comes down to averages, at least on a shorter guy, the equipment will always look proportionatly bigger. And as we know, asthetics are so much to do with proportions.

Earthhorse

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

You ladies are always going on about how personality and sense of humour are the two most important things, yet here we get a thread where a girl went out on a date with a guy who (although being taller than her) was an inch shorter than her in her heels... so despite him being a nice guy, he automatically gets disregarded. To be honest, I'm completely disgusted by this and disappointed in so many of you!

Wow. Thanks for posting that. I thought I was biased being a short guy myself but obviously not. It's not that I don't understand physical preferences, I do. I have them myself, we all do. What I can't grasp is the laying down of an absolute - I would never go out with a guy shorter than me. Honestly, it's hard enough to meet someone in this life you connect with, why rule them out before you've even let them in?

Lockstep

I'm 183cm so it's nothing to do with smaller guys being biased.

Star Lord

I know what you mean Earthhorse. I'm the same, I can see that personal preferences are just that, personal preferences.

Why that is allowed to interfere with something that was looking promising, as the OP said they were getting along great, yet she let something as unimportant as the guys height get him an automatic disqualification.

It just comes across as petty, arrogant and reeks of both vanity and such a lack of self confidence that they are more worried about what other people will think of them when they see them with a shorter guy (even though the guy the OP was on the date with was taller than her).

Well, their loss I guess.

Abi

looptheloop wrote: »

It looked like they were going to get it on before he stood up. Didn't happen though.

Ah thats awful LTL

Reku

Earthhorse wrote: »

It's not that I don't understand physical preferences, I do. I have them myself, we all do. What I can't grasp is the laying down of an absolute - I would never go out with a guy shorter than me. Honestly, it's hard enough to meet someone in this life you connect with, why rule them out before you've even let them in?

Do we not all do that on some level though, e.g. as a heterosexual guy I would never go out with a guy regardless of how much we might seem to click. Don't think I could go out with a woman older than my mum, or a girl who's so young as to still be in secondary school, would just seem a bit weird to me. Morbid obesity would be another deal breaker for me, bit overweight: so what, a heartattack waiting to happen: no thanks.

People will always have some degree of shallowness when evaluating potential partners, as long as they are aware of them and don't delude themselves that they don't it's realy just another aspect of their own unique personality. It would be nice if we could train ourselves to be a bit flexible on all aspects by which we evaluate partners but it's not going to happen, just as we're not going to be similarly flexible as regards the aspects of whom we try to befriend and start viewing fish as potential friends we should give a chance.

Papillon87

Again, I'm 5 nothing, so "ruling out" someone smaller than me is unlikely to ever occur. I can't speak for everyone, just myself, when I say I am definitely not that shallow that I would rule out a relationship with someone because they didn't tick all my boxes of "the ideal" man appearance wise. My ex (and let's put aside all the acrimony and what an ass he has been since we split).....I got on brilliantly with, we had a laugh...........but initially, I was not attracted to him whatsoever, and his height wasn't really one of my major gripes.....sure he was still nearly a foot taller than me. He pushed to get together. I was in two minds because I thought "hmm, physical attraction really is quite important, right?" but I decided, hey, I really like him as a person. I actually grew to find him very attractive while I was with him. Hmm. Don't know what the actual purpose of this post was.........maybe just to say I never write anyone off

Black Swan

Miss Fluff wrote: »

I'm 5'5" and normally wear pretty high heels but now am very definite in that I don't find small men attractive. Would you date a guy who was your height or smaller?

I'm 5'10" and dated a shorter lad once. I wouldn't wear heels then. When his mates saw us together, they would joke with him about the difference, and he would reply, "MORE for me!" Everyone would laugh.

Earthhorse

farohar wrote: »

Do we not all do that on some level though, e.g. as a heterosexual guy I would never go out with a guy regardless of how much we might seem to click.

That's to do with your sexuality rather than a specific preference if you follow.

farohar wrote: »

Don't think I could go out with a woman older than my mum,

I don't think I could either but I wouldn't decide anything in advance.

farohar wrote: »

a girl who's so young as to still be in secondary school, would just seem a bit weird to me.

It would seem weird to me too and I honestly would have no interest in pursuing someone of that age but if I met them and clicked I wouldn't rule them out automatically.

farohar wrote: »

Morbid obesity would be another deal breaker for me, bit overweight: so what, a heartattack waiting to happen: no thanks.

Fair enough, and I think it would be a deal breaker for me too. I don't think I could have any wriggle room on that one.

But, honestly, I think you're reaching for pretty extreme examples here and aren't comparing like with like. On the issues of sex, age (far younger and older) and obesity, I think people are more likely to rule out on grounds of their sexuality, the difference in interests and where they are at life (where someone's much older), maturity (where someone's much younger) and health issues. All these are hopefully things they would arrive at after weighing up the whole of the person rather than just one part.

I mean, you specifally refer to morbid obesity, suggesting you'd still go out with someone overweight. It's a question of degree. I wouldn't have a problem with a woman meeting me and considering a height difference a factor, particularly where it was substantial. I do have a problem with it being, as Damon says, an "automatic disqualificiation".

Papillon87, my post wasn't directed at you in case you're thinking that. You gave the guy a chance despite a height difference. That's the important thing, in my opinion. To be open minded rather than flee at the first sign of any "imperfection".

Seraphina

i went out with a very cute short guy once. didn't have a problem with his height, he did Jiu Jitsu/MMA so he would have had the protective role down to a T (there was something oddly arousing about the way this short wiry guy who looked like a stiff breeze might knock him over, could overpower me)

sadly things just didn't click really, and when i explained after a few dates he got a bit bitter (short man syndrome, lol!), so i guess i was better off