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New Heel Stable In WWE Soon??????????
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30-05-2008 5:01pm#1
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Your opinion is deeply flawed and hardly compelling.
Umaga is a slug, tell me more?
I shouldn't have to, if you claim to watch RAW on a weekly basis.
And don't get me started on your opinions (that you ram down everyone's throats!), i'd be here all night!
As Schiavone has famously said... "we're all outta time!"
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validreasoning! wrote: »I shouldn't have to, if you claim to watch RAW on a weekly basis.
And don't get me started on your opinions (that you ram down everyone's throats!), i'd be here all night!
As Schiavone has famously said... "we're all outta time!"
VR!
Did see his matches with Hardy?
So you wont back up your opinions then I take it? Isnt that the point of a message board?0 -
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I see that VR! does not like Undertaker that much (from the HHH is talentless thread!) - I personally think Taker is the best in the whole of the WWE and has more talent that many of them put together. Its personal opinion!
Here's the thing about my opinion of Taker. This is an old fart, who a few years ago wanted to work a lighter schedule. Fair enough, you did your time with the company and if you're unable to hack it on the road anymore, then fair is fair.
Which was fine, personally i thought the whole deadman gimmick went stale in 1999 (when it was originally nixed), and then 2005 came along, and he had the chance to put over Randy Orton and step the f*ck down, but no, heaven forbid he'd put a dent in his worthless Mania streak. And i do mean worthless if you look at the first half of "victims" on that list. He'd put Orton over later that year, when all momentum of the damn storyline was gone and people stopped caring!
The only person he's put over since was Edge, and that was only because he got injured and had to drop the belt to SOMEONE! And one year later, he's making sure he calls that favour back in!
Yet i have to listen to HHH bitching time out of number for similar reasons! So yeah, the double standards tend to piss me off from time to time.
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validreasoning! wrote: »Here's the thing about my opinion of Taker. This is an old fart, who a few years ago wanted to work a lighter schedule. Fair enough, you did your time with the company and if you're unable to hack it on the road anymore, then fair is fair.
Which was fine, personally i thought the whole deadman gimmick went stale in 1999 (when it was originally nixed), and then 2005 came along, and he had the chance to put over Randy Orton and step the f*ck down, but no, heaven forbid he'd put a dent in his worthless Mania streak. And i do mean worthless if you look at the first half of "victims" on that list. He'd put Orton over later that year, when all momentum of the damn storyline was gone and people stopped caring!
The only person he's put over since was Edge, and that was only because he got injured and had to drop the belt to SOMEONE! And one year later, he's making sure he calls that favour back in!
Yet i have to listen to HHH bitching time out of number for similar reasons! So yeah, the double standards tend to piss me off from time to time.
VR!
Fair points! I think the first half of the Mania victories list is awful - the opponents were terrible! But, I still think that overall, the streak is a great selling point! Lets be honest, if they "screwed" Taker over at Mania and destroyed the streak, people would turn away from the WWE. Many fans would stop watching the shows (and they would stop going to the shows!). I wouldn't, but I think a lot of people would! Is tha a reason to keep him there? From WWE's perapective, hell yeah!!! ($$$$$!!!)
As for his talent in the ring, I think he is a little more tired in the ring now, but nonetheless still as capable as many others in the ring. Batista, HHH etc in my opinion haven't a patch on Taker's ability!0 -
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validreasoning! wrote: »Here's the thing about my opinion of Taker. This is an old fart, who a few years ago wanted to work a lighter schedule. Fair enough, you did your time with the company and if you're unable to hack it on the road anymore, then fair is fair.
Which was fine, personally i thought the whole deadman gimmick went stale in 1999 (when it was originally nixed), and then 2005 came along, and he had the chance to put over Randy Orton and step the f*ck down, but no, heaven forbid he'd put a dent in his worthless Mania streak. And i do mean worthless if you look at the first half of "victims" on that list. He'd put Orton over later that year, when all momentum of the damn storyline was gone and people stopped caring!
The only person he's put over since was Edge, and that was only because he got injured and had to drop the belt to SOMEONE! And one year later, he's making sure he calls that favour back in!
Yet i have to listen to HHH bitching time out of number for similar reasons! So yeah, the double standards tend to piss me off from time to time.
VR!
So can you talk about this please then:validreasoning! wrote: »Afa Jr? Stop already with the fat, talentless Samoans, please!Correct me if i am wrong but were you not the person posting one word comments over the last few days, hmm just an observation
You are wrong Ive done this maybe three times and look at my post count and check out the ratio of longer posts to one word comments. Unlike many here my one word comments are correct and I do explain them and back them up. Your observation skills are very poor.0 -
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Umaga is incredibly athletic for his size. Samoa Joe is even more gifted.
I love the way out of everyone on my list, Umaga is the only one who gets defended. So Umaga can run into the corner? So could Rikishi and Yokozuna, they were still talentless slugs though! Samoa Joe i will give you, wait til he piles it on in a few years.Anyway, I have a feeling that ball will get rolling when Ted Dibiase wins the Tag Team Titles. I think he will 'buy' Cody Rhodes to sell Hadcore out.
Very interested in where they go with this. For the first time in a while, i'm looking forward to RAW.
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validreasoning! wrote: »I love the way out of everyone on my list, Umaga is the only one who gets defended. So Umaga can run into the corner? So could Rikishi and Yokozuna, they were still talentless slugs though! Samoa Joe i will give you, wait til he piles it on in a few years.
I gotta say, i kinda agree with you on the samoan thing. I used to hate watching Rikishi and Yokozuna. If they're wrestlers, you'd think they'd make the effort to get into shape! I actually do think Umaga is good, simply because of his level of intensity - I think it kinda makes up for him being out of shape.
I was never a big fan of fat joe; fair enough, he works a good solid style and is capable of having good matches but i just dont think it makes sense for a fat bloke to be winning matches against the likes of Angle.validreasoning! wrote: »Very interested in where they go with this. For the first time in a while, i'm looking forward to RAW.
VR!
I'm very interested in seeing where this goes myself. I wonder will they bring in someone else to team with Dibiase or whether Rhodes will turn all Holly. I'll be doing my best to avoid the spoilers on this angle over the weekend!0 -
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The thing it is a pretty sweeping claim by VR. If you cant articluyate it does speak much for his claims, does it.
I thought i did a good job of that earlier in the thread, your refusal to acknowledge it isn't mine, or any other posters problem.As people are posting crap and refuse to discuss it further.
Yes, and i really wish you'd stop because it's getting predictable.
Matter of opinion, yours is yours but you refuse to leave it at that.Why as his reasons dont hold up to questioning?Dude it is a discuss board. If you can’t explain why you dislike someone that dislike is irrational. It is hardly a prima facie case being presented there.
Only i have explained why but you just dismiss them.
End of.
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validreasoning! wrote: »I thought i did a good job of that earlier in the thread, your refusal to acknowledge it isn't mine, or any other posters problem.
Yes, and i really wish you'd stop because it's getting predictable.
Matter of opinion, yours is yours but you refuse to leave it at that.
Only i have explained why but you just dismiss them.
End of.
VR!
This just trolling by yourself, VR.
Explain in a small paragraph why all those guys are untalneted slugs that is all I ask and better thought out then the below. Is this too much to ask?validreasoning! wrote: »I love the way out of everyone on my list, Umaga is the only one who gets defended. So Umaga can run into the corner? So could Rikishi and Yokozuna, they were still talentless slugs though!
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