Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours

smuckers

I'm not too concerned there is not much activity, bar Real there is no activity with any clubs, I think 3 or 4 are coming in.

Aguero Sturridge Zhirkov and a centre back would be my guess

Redsoxfan

I really hope these rumours of 'Bosingwa to Bayern' and 'Chelsea to sign Johnson for £17m' are unfounded.

Bosingwa was solid enough last year and is a good attacking FB.

Johnson couldn't defend when he was at Chelsea, and he can't defend now.

I don't see how these moves would improve the team, so I hope they are just tabloid talk.

Has Zhirkov been signed or not? Until we see an announcement on the website, I guess not.

ShoulderChip

Redsoxfan wrote: »

I really hope these rumours of 'Bosingwa to Bayern' and 'Chelsea to sign Johnson for £17m' are unfounded.

Bosingwa was solid enough last year and is a good attacking FB.

Johnson couldn't defend when he was at Chelsea, and he can't defend now.

I don't see how these moves would improve the team, so I hope they are just tabloid talk.

Has Zhirkov been signed or not? Until we see an announcement on the website, I guess not.

My only hope regarding Bosingwa is that if we do let him go to Bayern it would only be in return for Ribery (obv we would pay a lot of money also)
don't see him being sold otherwise.

smuckers

Demble the belgian under 21 striker could be coming in too, it looks like we're gonig to put in a bid. He looks like a fantastic prospect.
Zhirkov is sitll up in the air, but we're close to getting in Maldini as our defensive coach.

selpher

I'd feel a hell of a lot better signing Glen Johnson knowing Paulo Maldini is in his ear every day.

MementoMori

Seems like the Maldini chat is a possibility at the very least according to the Beeb.

Possibily the most shocking bit would have to be the bit about the lack of opportunities at the San Siro since retirement. If that's true it looks like massive stupidity from whoever is responsible, which is presuambly Leonardo.:eek:

Maldini linked to role at Chelsea

AC Milan legend Paolo Maldini could be poised to join the backroom staff at Chelsea, BBC Sport understands.

A deal would mean the veteran Italian, who spent his 25-year career at the San Siro, teaming up again with coach Carlo Ancelotti, who left Milan for Chelsea.

The 40-year-old left-back, who only quit playing at the end of the 2008-09 season, won seven Serie A titles and five Champions League trophies.

Talks are understood to be ongoing, although a role has not been specified.

BBC Radio 5 live's senior football reporter, Ian Dennis, said: "I understand that a high-level meeting took place between Carlo Ancelotti, Paolo Maldini and Roman Abramovich at Chelsea's training ground on Friday.

"There's been talk of him being either a general manager or a joint-assistant coach alongside Ray Wilkins, but at the moment any role for Madini is unspecified.

"He's only just retired from a glittering career and it's a question of whether he is willing to embark straight away into a coaching career, but it seems clear that Ancelotti wants him as part of his backroom staff."

Maldini, who made more than 900 appearances for Milan and a record 126 for Italy, speaks good English and is thought to be unhappy with the lack of opportunities at the San Siro since his retirement.

Ancelotti has agreed to work with current Chelsea coach Wilkins, who speaks Italian, but he is also thought to want to bring in a fellow countryman.

And with Chelsea still looking to replace defensive coach specialist Steve Clarke, who joined Gianfranco Zola at West Ham earlier this year, Maldini could fit the bill.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8098673.stm

Esse85

Maldini would have a great influence on the Chelsea defense should he arrive.

Bounty Hunter

that article doesent make much sense tho

He's only just retired from a glittering career and it's a question of whether he is willing to embark straight away into a coaching career.....
is thought to be unhappy with the lack of opportunities at the San Siro since his retirement.

So they dont know if he wants to start coaching already yet think he is annoyed that Milan havent offered him a coaching position in the past month?

Can imagine him making a good coach though especially if his English is good and would imagine he would still put many of the defenders to shame on the training pitch.

eddiehead

If its true it really is incredible that there were no positions available at Milan for him. You'd be hard pressed to find a more quintessential footballing icon to have in your backroom staff, the man is a genuine legend of the game and the fact that he was a one club player makes this even stranger.
Obviously great players dont necessarily make good coaches but Maldini has such a wealth of experience that it could only be good news for players, defenders in particular, to have him at the club or any club for that matter.

And failing that, he could probably still provide adequet cover at left back for another 2/3 years:pac:

jrar

smuckers wrote: »

I'm not too concerned there is not much activity, bar Real there is no activity with any clubs, I think 3 or 4 are coming in.

Aguero Sturridge Zhirkov and a centre back would be my guess

Hmm, even if Lord Percy goes to join back up with Jose at Inter, that still leaves JT, Alex, Ivanovic and Mancienne as CBs so is it really necessary to get yet another CB in the squad ?

Wouldn't any available money be better spent on getting width, pace and another striker into the squad ?

jrar

dooferoaks wrote: »

Deco wants to leave, not bothered.

After his first game against Portsmouth he was either Crap or Injured or Crap and Injured.

Whoever we buy this year, it would be nice if they had a few less miles on the clock than a few of our more recent purchases.

Totally agree but look at Ancelotti's AC sides - class players but generally in the latter stages of their career. God knows Chelsea has already been a pre-retirement club for many an ageing player looking for one last big payday etc.

smuckers

Oops I meant a a young CM, Sessagon or VanDervart

ShoulderChip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/17/manchester-united-transfer-policy

great news for us, if we want to bid for Ribery, Villa, Eto'o or Ibra we will be uncontested, by them at least.

Dozen Wicked Words

I think one of the tabloids has line that Ribery wants to go to Real, as does Villa. Would be great if we could sign Ribery, maybe a straight swap for Ballack

Man Utd. policy is VERY tight on age isn't it, Ribery is only just 26, a mere spring chicken in Chelsea terms.

jackdaw

Again ... nothing with any signings .... Ribery won't go to Chelsea ...

as i sadi before we'll end up signing somebody like Owen ... or Ciise..

selpher

Bayern have bid for Bosingwa. Could be used as part of a deal to bring Ribery. In my dreams it could anyway.

growler

jackdaw wrote: »

Again ... nothing with any signings .... Ribery won't go to Chelsea ...

as i sadi before we'll end up signing somebody like Owen ... or Ciise..

you never cease to bring a smile (an incredulous one) to my face boy

SlipperyPeople

just thinkin if carvalho and deco do move to inter would dya reckon our chances of gettin Ibrahimovic as part of the deal? id love to see him playin for us. fantastic player. however i can see him preferring a move to barca. hopefully if he does come available carlo can convince him to move to the bridge

Eire-Dearg

That'd be Deco (about £8m) + Carvalho (about £14m) + about £55m to get Ibrahimovic in the same deal, going by Inter's evaluation.

I know it's Chelsea, but are you kidding me?

smuckers

Its not even July yet and Ancelotti hasn't even started, who have Utd and Liverpool signed?

Panthro

so we are in for tevez and 50/60 mill bid made for torres..sunday papers eh?:rolleyes:
imagine the possible formations though!
being serious:
keep cech (hopefully he will get back to former days)
i think our defence is covered, even if caravalho goes (id sell belletti)
midfield is iffy, think we need someone who can play where joe cole plays
(id sell off deco and ballack)
up front id keep drogba and anelka and maybe buy in a not too expensive young striker(if kalou wanted to go, id let him)

id also like to see more of our younger players getting blooded into the first team stoch/di santo/sinclair/sahar

thats my two cents:D

Dozen Wicked Words

We may not have signed anyone, but fabulous news.

Shevchenko wants to honour his 100,000 plus a week contract for its final year. Terrific, he was a goal scoring machine for us.

He was a trier but complete and utter failure. Like Kezman (who I liked for sheer effort!), Mutu, Sutton, Furlong, Allen (Joe - Hartlepools finest!) and Many, many more!!!! (only way more expensive)

Panthro

isnt it good of him to want to honour his 100,000 plus a week contract.
hes planning on rejoining for pre season training. will our new manager be the man to get the best out of our goal machine shevvy? pre season will tell!

ShoulderChip

My god My favourite player Ibrahimovic is available for the right price according to Moratti.

It would be heaven if this happened would immidiately place a big bet on chelsea winning the league.

Barr

dooferoaks wrote: »

We may not have signed anyone, but fabulous news.

Shevchenko wants to honour his 100,000 plus a week contract for its final year. Terrific, he was a goal scoring machine for us.

He was a trier but complete and utter failure. Like Kezman (who I liked for sheer effort!), Mutu, Sutton, Furlong, Allen (Joe - Hartlepools finest!) and Many, many more!!!! (only way more expensive)

What an absolute waste of money he was - I cant belive Chelsea are stuck with him for another year

Bubs101

ShoulderChip wrote: »

My god My favourite player Ibrahimovic is available for the right price according to Moratti.

It would be heaven if this happened would immidiately place a big bet on chelsea winning the league.

My favourite as well. Is the best man in the world to replace Drogba. Brings his intensity and physichal dominance with genuine brilliance on the ball and we can afford his wages

Dozen Wicked Words

Ben Sahar has moved on, permanently this time. Signed for Espanyol on four year contract.

JPA

Zlatan has never scored in the knockout stages of the CL.
The price being quoted is stupid and Inter are just milking it.
How could anyone want him for the price being quoted?
Insane waste of money of it happened.

Redsoxfan

dooferoaks wrote: »

He was a trier but complete and utter failure. Like Kezman (who I liked for sheer effort!), Mutu, Sutton, Furlong, Allen (Joe - Hartlepools finest!) and Many, many more!!!! (only way more expensive)

No way! One of my favourite players (after Eddie Newton, Essien and Zola of course.....), that goal he scored with his shin while wearing the Grey and Tangerine against Bruges in 1994 is one of my favourite CFC memories.....good times...

Anywho, this is great news for Chelsea IMHO

Johnson agrees to Liverpool Move

Now, if CFC really don't think that Bosingwa is up to the job, then why not see if Maicon wants to come to England (there was a story on the BEEB today that suggests Inter are willing to sell him). I don't think any FB is worth the £33m odd that I've seen him valued at by Inter, but if Glen Johnson is worth £17m, then surely Deco + Carvalho + £17m or so would be a 'good deal' for Maicon?

Redsoxfan

dooferoaks wrote: »

Ben Sahar has moved on, permanently this time. Signed for Espanyol on four year contract.

Will be interesting to see if he gets game time and is able to make an impact.

Dozen Wicked Words

Redsoxfan wrote: »

No way! One of my favourite players (after Eddie Newton, Essien and Zola of course.....), that goal he scored with his shin while wearing the Grey and Tangerine against Bruges in 1994 is one of my favourite CFC memories.....good times...

Loved the Grey/Orange masterpiece sponsored by Coors.
I went the first leg in Bruges where we were stuck up in a corner and weren't allowed to take a burger onto the terraces! Lost 1 - 0 and it was shlt to the power of 10

Eddie "drag back" Newton?

ShoulderChip

I am fuming about this Essien nonsense his agent has come out with, saying he would listen to a big offer from a big club, it has been taken up on most news sites.

Is he due a new contract and hopefully his agent is looking for more money?
or is there much doubt that this could happen,
it would seriously seriously ruin our summer.

Redsoxfan

I think it's BS to be honest-I can't see Madrid or Barcelona being interested in him-he's not Galactico enough for Madrid and isn't really suited to Barcelona IMHO. And Italy? What's the point at the moment?

Having said that, they should pay him what he wants, surely he deserves to be among the highest paid at the club, other than Lampard, I don't see anyone else who is so important to the club (inc. JT)

bullpost

Definitely - You could build a team around him.

Anyone know about Sturridge - Why City are letting him go and is he any good?

Redsoxfan wrote: »

I think it's BS to be honest-I can't see Madrid or Barcelona being interested in him-he's not Galactico enough for Madrid and isn't really suited to Barcelona IMHO. And Italy? What's the point at the moment?

Having said that, they should pay him what he wants, surely he deserves to be among the highest paid at the club, other than Lampard, I don't see anyone else who is so important to the club (inc. JT)

Mitch Connor

bullpost wrote: »

Definitely - You could build a team around him.

Anyone know about Sturridge - Why City are letting him go and is he any good?

Man City simply wouldn't give him the 45k or 50k he was demanding, according to reports. They didn't want him to leave, but weren't going to pay massive wages to an unproven kid.

Very promising player.

ShoulderChip

Its my feeling that Arnesen approached him before he ever submitted his contract demands, he knew Chelsea's offer was on the table, and so asked for mad high wages to be pushed out of the club,
this is all 100% unfounded conjecture however.

Dozen Wicked Words

Im sure we will get stung by the fee that gets set for him purely because we are Chelsea.

ShoulderChip

Goal.com think we are in for pato, maicon and pirlo from italy
http://goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2009/06/24/1343673/chelsea-step-up-chase-for-pato-and-maicon-report

worryingly they think we are throwing Drogba into the Pato deal.

Guardian reporting that Ribery is looking unlikely to come to Chelsea
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/23/franck-ribery-chelsea-real-madrid
which is a shame, but it appears we will still do our best to get him.

Bubs101

Not Pirlo. the other two are fine and Pato is certainly an upgrade for Drogba in terms of long term value but Pirlo will be no use with Lampard in the middle. If we get Maicon though we'll have the best defence in Europe

IrishIrish

Bubs101 wrote: »

Not Pirlo. the other two are fine and Pato is certainly an upgrade for Drogba in terms of long term value but Pirlo will be no use with Lampard in the middle. If we get Maicon though we'll have the best defence in Europe

ShoulderChip

IrishIrish wrote: »

Don't get it IrishIrish?

do you not rate Maicon,

or do you think our defense is already the best without him?

IrishIrish

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Don't get it IrishIrish?

do you not rate Maicon,

or do you think our defense is already the best without him?

I rate maicon alot. But not gonna be THAT much impovement since you will lose bosingwa and surely you dont think Alex and Terry are gonna be a good enough partnership to be considered the best in europe? No where near the best defence in europe last season and an attacking full back isn't going to make it much better.

Mr Alan

in fairness, don't know if there was anyone around last year with better fullbacks than Cole & Bosingwa....Terry,Alex,Carvahio & Ivanovic is a fairly awesome choice of CBs as well tbh.

saying they have the best defence in Europe ain't daft tbh.

IrishIrish

Mr Alan wrote: »

in fairness, don't know if there was anyone around last year with better fullbacks than Cole & Bosingwa....Terry,Alex,Carvahio & Ivanovic is a fairly awesome choice of CBs as well tbh.

saying they have the best defence in Europe ain't daft tbh.

I've read some of your posts in the united thread and mainly the liverpool thread so I wont take your opinion too seriously.

Would you think Chelsea had the best defence in Europe last season or do you think Maicon is alot better than Bosingwa?

Losing Carvalho too who is a better player than both alex and ivanovich, even if he didn't play last season.

Mr Alan

Alex was brilliant last year, and Hiddink seemed to rate him higher than Carvalhio so there might be something in that as i reckon Gus knows a thing or two.

i think Chelsea were up there with the best defences in Europe last year, as they will be again next year. i think responding to the idea they might have the best defence in europe with a silly smiley face a little silly.

but my opinion doesn't matter to you so its all irrelevant.

Pighead

Mr Alan wrote: »

Alex was brilliant last year, and Hiddink seemed to rate him higher than Carvalhio so there might be something in that as i reckon Gus knows a thing or two.

Think you're making stuff up again Al! That ain't gonna improve double Irish's opinion of you! How on earth can you say "Hiddink seemed to rate Alex higher?"
Basically whenever Carvalho was fit he played.

growler

Mr Alan wrote: »

Alex was brilliant last year, and Hiddink seemed to rate him higher than Carvalhio so there might be something in that as i reckon Gus knows a thing or two.

i .

in fairness Lord Percy was injured for most of the time, Alex did a good job , scored a very important goal, but I'd take Carvalho & Terry any day

Mr Alan

Pighead wrote: »

Basically whenever Carvalho was fit he played.

i was of the impression Carvalho was fit a lot since Jan and featured very little? hence the reason he wants to leave? if i'm wrong, apologies.

Alex was great anytime i saw him though.

*growler-i'd take Carvalho too, he is among the best around.

Bubs101

Terry was the least reliable of those three centre backs IMO last year. Alex could really threaten for a starting CB place if he continues his improvement

IrishIrish

Mr Alan wrote: »

i was of the impression Carvalho was fit a lot since Jan and featured very little? hence the reason he wants to leave? if i'm wrong, apologies.

Alex was great anytime i saw him though.

*growler-i'd take Carvalho too, he is among the best around.

I wonder if the fact that Hiddinks knew Alex very well from his days at PSVmight have played a part? Or that he didn't want to disrupt a settled side? Or maybe Carvalho was already disrupting things by having his mind set on a move?

And why would you use an arguement vs me that hiddink knows what he is doing and thats why he picks alex over carvalho but then you say to growler that you, like me, would have carvalho ahead of him. Seems to be just another example of you having to be "right" and end up arguing against your own original point