How did paper 2 go?

Fitzo

boobookitty wrote: »

Ended up turning it around and answering "A combination of Othello's foolishness, Iago's cleverness and luck leads to the tragedy"

Ditto cept I didn't use luck, just said Iago was opportunistic...

JamieK

Fitzo wrote: »

Ditto cept I didn't use luck, just said Iago was opportunistic...

hehe...said there was luck because of the hankerchief AND the opportunistic....:D

despite this i wasnt that hectic on the comparative now that i think back on it!!! lol

post-exam panic setting in already!!!

Em_2008

poetry: only studied larkin and he came up super delighted lol

obviously im not going to be as cheeky when it comes to the rest of my exams i was nearly having palputations this morning opening the booklet :pac:

rest went fine, 20 pages in total so hope its all not waffle

louise-x

wow i was soo happy, everything i wanted to come up did, was great!

guX

Haha, I wanted to run around the exam hall shouting for joy when I saw that both Mahon and Theme/Issue came up... they were the only things on the whole English course which I did any work for (I did this work this morning :P). Then I realised that I still had to actually do the paper... I got 6 pages done for the Comparative and 6.5 done for Mahon. Didn't get anything else done, but anything I'd have written would have just been waffle anyway. I'd say I'll get a C1/B3 in English in overall, which I'm happy with considering I very nearly failed the mock.

Peleus

Fitzo wrote: »

I still can't feel my hand

ha, don't let anybody from last years leaving hear you say that.

my only worry about that exam was that it was a bit too 'easy' for my liking. not that i did really well, but all the predicable stuff came up so maybe the department are gonna get a load of A-standard learnt off institute essays from C students. And the ones who knew the texts and spoke from the heart get squat. SQUAT!

oh and there was no question on John Proctor for The Crucible, weird. I did the Elizabeth and Abigail one. it was pretty good. just described both of them. fear, power, motive for crying witch, then talked about Liz's Loyalty to John and how she sticks by him etc... and then just said they are two completely different characters in conflict with each other and they are essentially polar opposites. oh and i also said, they are by far the best most interesting female characters in the play and whats interesting about them is their conflict. another point i should have mentioned is that they never actually talk to each other in the play. damn. What did all you other Crucible people write about?!!?

ye what did that viewpoint thing in Theme and Issue mean?? i had no idea so i just kept saying things like "this show the things that one would do for love and for their father" and "the viewpoint seen here is the major effect that father-son relationships can have on a person's life..."

is that the right use of the word??? I have no idea what they meant by viewpoint so i just kept saying things like that in hope that one of them was right... whats viewpoint mean plz?!?!

ZorbaTehZ

plawless wrote: »

enough of the bull.
this is how today went: veni vidi vici
English was so easy but not as easy as it was to keep you from studying for tomorrow, well perhaps your not in honours maths but I am sure you do geography

English: Mahon 8 pages, Comparative 9, unseen 2 and a half pages, Othello 7 pages

Bring on Latin

26.5 pages eh? Were you writing on post-its?

titan18

Peleus wrote: »

ha, don't let anybody from last years leaving hear you say that.

my only worry about that exam was that it was a bit too 'easy' for my liking. not that i did really well, but all the predicable stuff came up so maybe the department are gonna get a load of A-standard learnt off institute essays from C students. And the ones who knew the texts and spoke from the heart get squat. SQUAT!

oh and there was no question on John Proctor for The Crucible, weird. I did the Elizabeth and Abigail one. it was pretty good. just described both of them. fear, power, motive for crying witch, then talked about Liz's Loyalty to John and how she sticks by him etc... and then just said they are two completely different characters in conflict with each other and they are essentially polar opposites. oh and i also said, they are by far the best most interesting female characters in the play and whats interesting about them is their conflict. another point i should have mentioned is that they never actually talk to each other in the play. damn. What did all you other Crucible people write about?!!?

ye what did that viewpoint thing in Theme and Issue mean?? i had no idea so i just kept saying things like "this show the things that one would do for love and for their father" and "the viewpoint seen here is the major effect that father-son relationships can have on a person's life..."

is that the right use of the word??? I have no idea what they meant by viewpoint so i just kept saying things like that in hope that one of them was right... whats viewpoint mean plz?!?!

I have no idea what viewpoint meant.But our teacher told us to never do a two part question as they get marked harder

ShaneU

Pah whippersnappers these days, when I did it we had both English exams in one day, bah humbug *walking stick*

Peleus

plawless wrote: »

English: Mahon 8 pages, Comparative 9, unseen 2 and a half pages, Othello 7 pages

Bring on Latin :pac:

writing 8 pages isnt exactly a good thing. if I was an examiner and some student made me read an 8 page answer, i wouldn't be too happy

Dr-Millie

Was sooooo happy Donne came up. Thou i didnt write like 25 pages for paper 2!

H-esperanza

Othello-Very happy we did a question on human weaknesses 2 weeks ago in class.
Comparitive-Little shocked in the exam at the theme or issue question. Did the view point one because i was told at a revision course i did not to do the key moments one if you hadn't practiced it. But got about 9 pages between the two so it was fine.
Poetry- Very happy with the question on Mahon, suprized that all the questions were pretty similar!
Unseen- Was fine got a good bit written in the personal response.

Overall i filled the booklet which made me very happy! (i do however have enormous writting which doubles in size when i am writting quickly)

My hand is so sore...(I had home ec yesterday too so it was still tough)

Bring on maths!

laura*

I'm just up now,
went to bed after the paper,
was up studying for ages last night and this morning!

FOUND IT REALLY GOOD

I done (in order):
*Rich
*Theme/issue- key scenes
*Othello
*unseen poetry (20mark ques)

^Rich- i wrote 7 pages, which was a mistake to start with too
OW MY HAND HURTS!

^Othello- (coulda done better) I twisted it to Iago, my language wasn't the best.
But i got to the point and stuffed it with quotes!
:):):):):)

Dr-Millie

Yeh I got a good few quotes in which i was happy with in Othello, did the charecter one. Used sentences from the "principle agent of his own downfall" essays i got from some english book. Over well it went well but at the start it was a bit dodgey. Did bout 4 pages for each, hav small-ish writting so was happy enough. But only did bout 1.5 of a page for unseen poetry. But for 20 marks, theyre not expecting an essay!!

ciaranajl

Peleus wrote: »

ha, don't let anybody from last years leaving hear you say that.

my only worry about that exam was that it was a bit too 'easy' for my liking. not that i did really well, but all the predicable stuff came up so maybe the department are gonna get a load of A-standard learnt off institute essays from C students. And the ones who knew the texts and spoke from the heart get squat. SQUAT!

oh and there was no question on John Proctor for The Crucible, weird. I did the Elizabeth and Abigail one. it was pretty good. just described both of them. fear, power, motive for crying witch, then talked about Liz's Loyalty to John and how she sticks by him etc... and then just said they are two completely different characters in conflict with each other and they are essentially polar opposites. oh and i also said, they are by far the best most interesting female characters in the play and whats interesting about them is their conflict. another point i should have mentioned is that they never actually talk to each other in the play. damn. What did all you other Crucible people write about?!!?

ye what did that viewpoint thing in Theme and Issue mean?? i had no idea so i just kept saying things like "this show the things that one would do for love and for their father" and "the viewpoint seen here is the major effect that father-son relationships can have on a person's life..."

is that the right use of the word??? I have no idea what they meant by viewpoint so i just kept saying things like that in hope that one of them was right... whats viewpoint mean plz?!?!

I did the other question (the 70-marker) but viewpoints I would take to mean seeing the theme or issue from a variety of different aspects and angles - i.e., points of view. Basically from a range of different perspectives.

laura*

Dr-Millie wrote: »

Yeh I got a good few quotes in which i was happy with in Othello, did the charecter one. Used sentences from the "principle agent of his own downfall" essays i got from some english book. Over well it went well but at the start it was a bit dodgey. Did bout 4 pages for each, hav small-ish writting so was happy enough. But only did bout 1.5 of a page for unseen poetry. But for 20 marks, theyre not expecting an essay!!

i only done almost a page for the unseen poetry
answered the personal responce ques,
had:

*short intro with 4 reasons i liked it
*2/3 lines developing each point

sorta done it as a 20mark paper1 ques!
is that kinda ok?:o

Dr-Millie

laura* wrote: »

i only done almost a page for the unseen poetry
answered the personal responce ques,
had:

*short intro with 4 reasons i liked it
*2/3 lines developing each point

sorta done it as a 20mark paper1 ques!
is that kinda ok?:o

Yeh i mean, i presume so! I did the two parted question, each bout 3/4s of a page. Sure had mine done in bout 20mins, pretty happy with that!
Some of my friends did the reponse q and just short of one page! So koola boola

laura*

Dr-Millie wrote: »

Yeh i mean, i presume so! I did the two parted question, each bout 3/4s of a page. Sure had mine done in bout 20mins, pretty happy with that!
Some of my friends did the reponse q and just short of one page! So koola boola

sweet cheers!
only had 2 mins to spare anyway so
there's nothing more i could have done!

roll on the summer
:cool::cool::cool::cool:

kirving

Hi, didn't go great to be honest!

Othello: 3.5 (4 with plan) pages of rambling rubbish. Well, it wasnt that bad but i dont thing I did very well in it...ugh. i sorta got lost!

Comparative(almost 5 pages): Key moments? Went well-ish!

I went with headings: Relationships, Conflict, Seeking Change and "Looking to the past". I kinda mentionted how each thing(Conflict, Seeking change)caused key moments.

e.g: Philadelphia, Here I Come:
Conflict was created by Katie Doogans fater in a key scene, and "Looking to the past" in the scene where aunt Lizzie is reminiscing about his mother. Then I said how each of these embodied the theme of self discovery.

Is that acceptable?!


Unseen: About a page and a half. Went alright, ususl stuff!


Prescribed: I went over time on other stuff and I was left with about 10 mins for the Adrienne Rich Quesion! Got hardly any done. I should have done a plan so the examiner could see what I was going to write but instead I went ahead - probably a mistake!

laura*

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Hi, didn't go great to be honest!

Comparative(almost 5 pages): Key moments? Went well-ish!

I went with headings: Relationships, Conflict, Seeking Change and "Looking to the past". I kinda mentionted how each thing(Conflict, Seeking change)caused key moments.

e.g: Philadelphia, Here I Come:
Conflict was created by Katie Doogans fater in a key scene, and "Looking to the past" in the scene where aunt Lizzie is reminiscing about his mother. Then I said how each of these embodied the theme of self discovery.

Is that acceptable?!

Hi,
wtf?
I didn't do that?!

I just said the theme was poor father son relationship
and the key moments evidently show this in all 3 texts

then took each individaully under pharagraphs with:
Problem - key moment
How it's confronted- Key moment
The Outcome- Key moment -eg PHIC Gar leaves so relationship is
not improved with SB

AND compared each pharagraph with another text briefly!

is that all wrong?

Mars Bar

Nah I doubt it. I started out with my point, e.g Lover through gesture between father and son was common to all three texts. In Phily, SB goes over to Gar's jacket and touches it. Then he looks to Gar's door knowing it will be the last time that he will see him again. Likewise in Babylon, Alec's father gives him a watch which had been given to him by his father. Frederick says "Sentimentality doesn't suit either of us". This can also be said for MLF. Paddy shows his love first by building the chariot for Christy. Later in the text, he builds Christy's room. His mother remarks, "That's the closest he'll ever come to saying that he loves you". (obvioulsy they were more expanded than that). I'm just kinds hoping the examiner will get the hint that the examples were the key moments.

Pen1987

Only studied Mahon, Literary Genre, Iago's jealousy and Othello as the principal agent of his own downfall, so I just combined those two and got the Foolishness/cleverness essay out of it!

Pure luck but I'm loving it!

laura*

mars bar wrote: »

Nah I doubt it. I started out with my point, e.g Lover through gesture between father and son was common to all three texts. In Phily, SB goes over to Gar's jacket and touches it. Then he looks to Gar's door knowing it will be the last time that he will see him again. Likewise in Babylon, Alec's father gives him a watch which had been given to him by his father. Frederick says "Sentimentality doesn't suit either of us". This can also be said for MLF. Paddy shows his love first by building the chariot for Christy. Later in the text, he builds Christy's room. His mother remarks, "That's the closest he'll ever come to saying that he loves you". (obvioulsy they were more expanded than that). I'm just kinds hoping the examiner will get the hint that the examples were the key moments.

cool

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Michellenman

Pen1987 wrote: »

Only studied Mahon, Literary Genre, Iago's jealousy and Othello as the principal agent of his own downfall, so I just combined those two and got the Foolishness/cleverness essay out of it!



Sh1t, posted in my bro's account!

1huge1

Oh jesus im after noticing something and I think I might of made a mistake today.

The theme and issue question
1 (a) and (B)
Describe the VIEWPOINT on your chosen theme or issue that emerges from one of your comparative texts.

For that question I talked about philadelphia here I come and my theme was the growth of the central character towards knowledge and discovery of self. Then I talked about how he was at the beginning, his dilemma, the key relationship he had, the key moment and the resolution (like you would for a normal theme and issue question)

I thought thats what they wanted but now I'm after studying the question and I've no idea what the hell they meant by viewpoint. was I right??

If im wrong I made the same mistake for the part B!!!

ZorbaTehZ

I would think that it basically means you discuss the over-all 'direction' that the theme takes, like for example in Death of a Salesman, if you were going to talk about the theme of Father-Son relationships, you'd say the viewpoint might be of how difficult it can be for the the son to get on with his life when his father is pushing his own aspirations/hopes onto him, as opposed to some other viewpoint examining some other aspect of the relationship. Sounds like a difficult question tbh.

lovechem

LOVED IT!!

killed my hand

but SEXY :D

1huge1

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

I would think that it basically means you discuss the over-all 'direction' that the theme takes, like for example in Death of a Salesman, if you were going to talk about the theme of Father-Son relationships, you'd say the viewpoint might be of how difficult it can be for the the son to get on with his life when his father is pushing his own aspirations/hopes onto him, as opposed to some other viewpoint examining some other aspect of the relationship. Sounds like a difficult question tbh.

So do you think I answered it wrong.

I just referred to the type of character gar was and what his dilemma was
the key realtionship in his life
the key moment of the play
and the resolution

Soby

1huge1 wrote: »

So do you think I answered it wrong.

I just referred to the type of character gar was and what his dilemma was
the key realtionship in his life
the key moment of the play
and the resolution

man stop going over the paper..your only giving yourself unessicary stress.your worry bout something you cant change:cool:

x-katz-x

I was absolutely delighted with wat came up! As the examiner was passin out all the papers i was tryin to make out the writing on the page under the last page nd when i saw the words John Donne i was about to jump for joy! I twisted the Othello essay saying it was a combination of Iago's skill in manipulation and Othello's trusting nature that ultimately brings about the tragedy in the play. As for the Comparative essay i did the one on theme/issue bout the viewpoints bt i wasn't really sure bout how to approach it so i waffled! All in all tho i think it was a great paper..

Lia_lia

Mine was horrible.

Spent way too much time on Othello and the comparative and had only 20 minutes left for the whole poetry section. I knew what I was doing but just had no time.

Questions were grand though. Hopefully paper 1 will balance it out.

MnMs

i thought the othello question was great...you could have written about othellos foolishness, iagos skill and ingenuity and the combination of luck...just like in that revision book

sorted!!:D

Caoimhe89

Well... it's over!

Section I: Othello, first question. Basically did half on Othello's faults, half on Iago being evil and what not, rounded it all up. 6 pages... not so bad!

Section II: Theme and Issue. Messed up the whole key moments thing. As in, I hadn't a clue and made them all up! So... yeah... 7 pages of cr*p basically.

Section III: Unseen: the first question. A bit of a mess, just wrote as much as I could in ten minutes. I'd read it before somewhere for some reason!

Seen: Donne. What. A. Ledge. It was a lovely question, exactly what I was prepared to write about. 6 nice pages on him.

So... hopefully an A2. That's what I'd love! But maybe not what with the Comparative...

It went really well besides that weird ass comparative question, (only got 4 pages outta that and a **** conclusion..) It was very unclear.. viewpoint?? Anyone??

I did the Othello question, the one about demonstrating the weakness of human judgement.. pretty straight forward, got 5 pages outta that and I did Donne.. I was so happy, had the question all recited off! Another 5 pages. BOO YEAA! The Unseen was also very easy.. compared to last year anyway! YaY!!!!

....shell....

could someone tell me how many pages they wrote for the ordinary level paper....i wrote about 17 and didnt know if it was enough or not.....
was delighted that the poem i studyed came up and all the single and comparative text questions went great....i wasnt too happy about the unseen poem though...seagulls..what the **** like?

1huge1

Deleted User wrote: »

It went really well besides that weird ass comparative question, (only got 4 pages outta that and a **** conclusion..) It was very unclear.. viewpoint?? Anyone??

I did the Othello question, the one about demonstrating the weakness of human judgement.. pretty straight forward, got 5 pages outta that and I did Donne.. I was so happy, had the question all recited off! Another 5 pages. BOO YEAA! The Unseen was also very easy.. compared to last year anyway! YaY!!!!

Ya I too just went with what I normally write for theme and issue on that question, I don't know that they wanted for viewpoint to be honest, it was very confusing but hopefully im not the only one who made this mistake and they will take this into account when marking it.

Other than that tricky question it was a nice exam. hand is still killing me though.
wrote 15 pages in total

delighted.

For theme or issue, the first question about the viewpoints. Was it the readers viewpoint?
And also did it make sense to talk about the viewpoints of other characters towards them?

Othello and poetry were lovely. Mahon question was about people and place, the exact same as the pre question :]

daggy

oh mother of god...

I nearly had heart failure before i went in. I was practically kicked in by my teacher.

When we got the papers turned upside down i managed to read through the back page and see all 4 poets , at first all i saw was Larkin and Donne and was fit to collapse cause hadnt done Donne and let Larkin slide.. Then finally i made out that Mahon and Rich were on it and i think i let out a little scream of joy!

I did the Lit Genre question, 2nd one and dear god it was miserable. If there was such a thing as minus marks, jesus i got them. When i came out my enlgish teach saw me and was like oooh which one did you do? when i told him he nearly hit me..i have a bizarre ability to pick out the crappy ones.Wrote 5 pages but towards my conclusion I re-read the question to see i had MISREAD it :eek: waaaa. I nearly started actually crying.. the whole 5 page spiel was gone..
Not that i actually understood HALF of what i wrote in it, in fact i didnt even bother reading over it at the end cause i knew it was a lost cause.. and that it would wreck my head. So there's minus 70 marks for me.. 17.5% of the grade is it?

Othello was sweet and had a question v similar to it done, plus had read the one in the "key english notes" the night before! Gave a good philosophical yolk, about 4 pages. Then my Mahon went pretty damn well too, about 4 pages again. Unseen poem left me slightly stumped, so waffled to hell and back but meh.

IT'S OVER! what a weight off the shoulders , eh?
hurrah!

jessie11

wanted boland but tried my hand at larkin..went ok

theme...amazing

othello...i love iago haha got to use all my quotes

armbruster

everyone - anything wrong with agreeing with the Othello question, and talking about the handkerchief (how Othello os demented by it) and that kind of thing?

bitterstudent

In relation to the Othello question on the foolishness and what not:
It was a statement and I'm just wondering can you disagree with a statement? It didn't really ask for an opinion, just for your discussion on the statement...

florencexxx

Couldn't have asked for a better Paper 2. =] The Othello question was a gift, 5 pages on weakness of human judgement which was actually really easy to argue. Comparative - thank God theme came up - nearly exactly the same as the mocks, 7 pages (I think I might have overdone that a bit). Poetry was probably my weakest, even though Donne & Mahon came up thank God, the only two I'd studied properly. xD 5 pages but I don't know if I was totally on the ball and I'm hoping for an A so...we'll see. It was lovely overall, I thought. Haven't written that much in years though, was literally scribbling away for the whole exam.

Kimmy-XxX

did anyone else think it was overly predictable??..I picked the four poets that would come up by flicking through past exam queations lol:D

thebigcheese22

anyone who thinks the othello question was a tuffy obviously arent aware you can disagree or agree with the statement!i said it was a combination of both elements and that shows the examiner you're thinking bout it totally aced rich as well! the only bollocks was the theme and issue,dont think i addressed the how but well enough :S anyways a thoroughly predictable paper!made up for paper one defo