3G iPhone Thread - [sourcing Qs / news about 3G iPhone here *ONLY* !!!]

dazedandlost

Seems the folks over at Pocket Link in Uk have noticed differences in iPhone pricing and tarriffs...

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...-tariffs.phtml

My only gripe is not around the data plan, but fact I paid €499 only a few months ago, O2 would have been privy to the new phone and launch dates but still launched the 1st gen iPhone... They should have waited and just launched the 2nd Gen, skipping the 1st gen but I guess they wanted to cash in...

Won't be getting the new phone as no benefits to those who bought in March, I do believe there should be a better deal for existing Irish O2 owners given the short time frame between Irish launch and 3G launch, could understand if there was a larger gap but feel a bit hoodwinked...

dmn

thanks god i bought mine from the states back in september for €280

Celticwarrior

I think when you compare the pay monthly tariffs it's ridiculous.

I mean fair enough there's always going to be differences, we're a small country etc. But we should compare the tariffs of one 02 company (the UK obv) offering the 3G Iphone to ours. I know there's the argument that we should be comparing to operators in Ireland - but that doesn't stack up. I meant the IPhones are in Northern Ireland & no other company operates the Iphone in Ireland. I know they are "different" legal entities - but they are both 02. The differences are massive - you can't really say there's a difference of 10-20%. I used a rate of 1.26 E to 1 GBP.

I've removed the £30 tariff as the £35 tariff is the comparable €45 tariff. That way it is 3 tariffs vs 3 tariffs

UK:

Monthly Charge £35.... £45.....£75
EURO................€44.....€57....€95
Minutes.............600.....1200..3000
Texts................500.....500....500
Unlimited Data....Yes......Yes....Yes


IRE:

Monthly Charge..€45.....€65....€100
Minutes............175.....350.....700
Texts...............100.....150.....250
Data.................1GB....1GB.....1GB



The differences in the tariff's are by multiples of 3,4,5. There is no slight or small differences. I think the whole things ridiculous.

dmn

Celticwarrior wrote: »

I think when you compare the pay monthly tariffs it's ridiculous.

I mean fair enough there's always going to be differences, we're a small country etc. But we should compare the tariffs of one 02 company (the UK obv) offering the 3G Iphone to ours. I know there's the argument that we should be comparing to operators in Ireland - but that doesn't stack up. I meant the IPhones are in Northern Ireland & no other company operates the Iphone in Ireland. I know they are "different" legal entities - but they are both 02. The differences are massive - you can't really say there's a difference of 10-20%. I used a rate of 1.26 E to 1 GBP.

I've removed the £30 tariff as the £35 tariff is the comparable €45 tariff. That way it is 3 tariffs vs 3 tariffs

UK:

Monthly Charge £35.... £45.....£75
EURO................€44.....€57....€95
Minutes.............600.....1200..3000
Texts................500.....500....500
Unlimited Data....Yes......Yes....Yes


IRE:

Monthly Charge..€45.....€65....€100
Minutes............175.....350.....700
Texts...............100.....150.....250
Data.................1GB....1GB.....1GB



The differences in the tariff's are by multiples of 3,4,5. There is no slight or small differences. I think the whole things ridiculous.

I'm glad you laid it out like this...now we can really see the difference which is beyond a JOKE!!!

PowerHouseDan

O2 is sweetening the deal for upcoming iPhone users. Some fine print was recently found on their webpage that confirmed that iPhone users will be getting free access to Wi-Fi hotspots from The Cloud and by BT OpenZone. This announcement raises the number of available hotspots to iPhone users in the UK to 9,500, making the situation for iPhone users in the UK easily the most desirable of all that have been announced.

There is also word that O2 is teaming up with The Cloud and BTOpenzone to form a "wireless mesh network" across London using hotspots from both Wi-Fi providers, allowing users to use the entire network seamlessly.

dmn

it's all good...we get to use bitbuzz wifi in a travel lodge if you decide to go on a tour of Ireland, or if you're lucky enough to pass statoil in Sligo

matchthis

Celticwarrior wrote: »

I think when you compare the pay monthly tariffs it's ridiculous.

I mean fair enough there's always going to be differences, we're a small country etc. But we should compare the tariffs of one 02 company (the UK obv) offering the 3G Iphone to ours. I know there's the argument that we should be comparing to operators in Ireland - but that doesn't stack up. I meant the IPhones are in Northern Ireland & no other company operates the Iphone in Ireland. I know they are "different" legal entities - but they are both 02. The differences are massive - you can't really say there's a difference of 10-20%. I used a rate of 1.26 E to 1 GBP.

I've removed the £30 tariff as the £35 tariff is the comparable €45 tariff. That way it is 3 tariffs vs 3 tariffs

UK:

Monthly Charge £35.... £45.....£75
EURO................€44.....€57....€95
Minutes.............600.....1200..3000
Texts................500.....500....500
Unlimited Data....Yes......Yes....Yes


IRE:

Monthly Charge..€45.....€65....€100
Minutes............175.....350.....700
Texts...............100.....150.....250
Data.................1GB....1GB.....1GB



The differences in the tariff's are by multiples of 3,4,5. There is no slight or small differences. I think the whole things ridiculous.

How do Vodafone Ireland compare to Vodafone uk? Or how does the Irish iPhone tarrif compare to normal o2 irish tarriffs?

dmn

matchthis wrote: »

How do Vodafone Ireland compare to Vodafone uk? Or how does the Irish iPhone tarrif compare to normal o2 irish tarriffs?

good question re: vodafone tariffs. anyone willing to check this out and come back to us with a table??

PowerHouseDan

£15
Per month0
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Texts

£20
£10.00 for the
first 3 mths100
anytime mins50
inclusive texts

£20
£10.00 for the
first 3 mths50
anytime mins150
inclusive texts


£30 in store
£25 online500
anytime mins100
inclusive texts


£30 in store
£25 online200
anytime mins1000
inclusive texts


£35 in store
£30 online700
anytime mins250
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Landline Calls
• Save £5 per month only when you buy online. Saving £90. Applies to selected phones

£35
Per month700
anytime mins250
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Landline Calls

£35 in store
£30 online600
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

[*]Unlimited Texts


£35
Per month600
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

£40
Per month900
anytime mins500
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Landline Calls

£40
Per month900
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Texts

£50
Per month1500
anytime mins500
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Landline Calls

£50
Per month1500
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Texts

£75
Per month3000
anytime mins500
inclusive texts

• Unlimited Landline Calls

£75
Per month3000
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts

Unlimited Texts


VS

Price plan Monthly fee Free call minutes Free texts Text rate Out of bundle call rate
Perfect Choice 50 €19 50 50 11c 35c per min
Perfect Choice 100 €29 100 100 11c 30c per min
Perfect Choice 200 €49 200 200 11c 25c per min
Perfect Choice 400 €69 400 400 11c 20c per min
Perfect Choice 600 €89 600 600 11c 18c per min

matchthis

£75
Per month3000
anytime minsunlimited
inclusive texts


Perfect Choice 600 €89 600 600 11c 18c per min

So Voda is

IRL €89 600 Mins 600 texts
Uk €94 3000 Mins Unlimited texts

So issue is not the Iphone, the issue is what we pay here versus what uk pay. It goes for anything on the mobile networks. I admit there gits for not giving it to us for free, but it is evident that they are different markets. As fot the 1gb add on. Let o2 learn the hard way, but what if it turns out that we never reach the 1gb add on with exception of the few.

Celticwarrior

matchthis wrote: »

How do Vodafone Ireland compare to Vodafone uk? Or how does the Irish iPhone tarrif compare to normal o2 irish tarriffs?

I see little point in comparing Vodafone to Vodafone in both countries as although the comparison is fair market wise - it doesn't reflect the actual topic - the iphone.

I feel that is partly the case for an 02 within 02 comparison.

However, for the 02 Clear - 18 month contracts - for comparable prices-

IPHONE:
Monthly Charge..€45.....€65....€100
Minutes............175.....350.....700
Texts...............100.....150.....250
Data................1GB.....1GB.....1GB

O2 Clear - 18 Month - (no comparable €100 option)
Monthly Charge..€50.....€75
Minutes............350.....600
Texts...............150.....250
Data.................0.........0

To get a comparable data add on it's €30 to the 02 clear plans. Since the data add on clearly makes comparison pointless as the cost of it as an add-on for 1GB is so high when it probably shouldn't be because for €30 bill pay data add on meteor you get "unlimited data".

matchthis

Celticwarrior wrote: »

To get a comparable data add on it's €30 to the 02 clear plans. Since the data add on clearly makes comparison pointless as the cost of it as an add-on for 1GB is so high when it probably shouldn't be because for €30 bill pay data add on meteor you get "unlimited data".

o2 Data add on for any hsdpa enabled handset is €15 for 1gb and €30 for 10gb. If your using the iphone for more than 10gb of usage then you might be better off with something more powerful than an iPhone.

-DuMbGuM-

I found this web page again that i had lost the other day.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=21562

Their source reckons £269

269.00 GBP
=
339.516 EUR

Any thoughts? Seems reasonable enough i suppose. I guess that figure means if o2 Ireland release a PAYG version we can expect to pay somewhere in the region of a "mere" 400€... bargain!!

matchthis

Wouldn't be too bad at €400 if ye got credit back and they did something about the 1c per kb rate they have. Would need to be 16gb at that price too and maybe €300 for 8gb

cormac1982

bk wrote: »

Just read elsewhere, there maybe a way to get a 3G iPhone from the US if you know someone living there.

1) Get them to buy the 3G iPhone with a contract
2) Immediately cancel the contract with the $175 cancelation fee.

So the 16GB iPhone would cost $300 + $175 = $475 or €302

Don't think that will work. Check out the last paragraph here http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-hands-on-notes-and-questions/
Looks like you'll have to actually return the iphone to cancel your contract/get your refund.

On another point, anyone know how soon after you sign up to a tarriff on O2 you can downgrade? Its 6 months on three far I know.
Just for the record, not a fan of O2 either but been waiting for this version so will probably switch. 1Gb cap doesn't seem that bad to me because it has WiFi too - people probably use that more often to download apps and stuff like that although 3G might change that of course. Sure who knows what new tariffs they'll bring in, as unlikely as it sounds they might surprise us. At the end of the day, their an Irish mobile phone company - we should know better by now not to expect much from them.
Finally, anyone had any compatibility experience with an iPhone and Nokia car kits? ( Ck-7W and Ck-15w etc)

Fighting Irish

GUIGuy wrote: »

I'm hoping for 150 Euro... that'd be fair.
Don't quite know if the "we'll be distroing it in 6 counties" means that apple will also sell direct in first 6 counties. If they do then maybe it will sell for that in good ol' rip off republic

150? lol

Fighting Irish

nitromaster wrote: »

Yep, this price is likely exclusive to the iPhone tariffs.

On Pay As You Go its currently 1c per kb, meaning 1MB = 10euro.


1GB cap is a piece of ****, why can't we have the same or at least similar plans to the UK?

Do you expect a small town shop to have the same prices as tescos?

Fighting Irish

Chinese Mafia wrote: »

My god its just whine whine whine with you guys. 21 pages of reading later I'm asleep. Fair enough there is a cap on the iPhone tariff and that pretty bad but my god you'd swear you were taking out a contract with the devil. Back in march there was the same deal with this cap and what happened?

everyone left the topic because there were embarrassed they couldn't break 250MB's and shut up.

Werd!

I wouldn't mind but the phone isn't that impressive anyways. Ohhhh touch screen :rolleyes:

Fighting Irish

dazedandlost wrote: »

Seems the folks over at Pocket Link in Uk have noticed differences in iPhone pricing and tarriffs...

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...-tariffs.phtml

My only gripe is not around the data plan, but fact I paid €499 only a few months ago, O2 would have been privy to the new phone and launch dates but still launched the 1st gen iPhone... They should have waited and just launched the 2nd Gen, skipping the 1st gen but I guess they wanted to cash in...

Won't be getting the new phone as no benefits to those who bought in March, I do believe there should be a better deal for existing Irish O2 owners given the short time frame between Irish launch and 3G launch, could understand if there was a larger gap but feel a bit hoodwinked...

Maybe you will get that, but don't think you deserve it.

jpfahy

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Do you expect a small town shop to have the same prices as tescos?

Have I not read somewhere that Ireland is the most profitable country in Europe for phone companies.
And have we not got the highest amount of phones per capita.
The phone companies are creaming it here..........

copacetic

vodafone rtg in Italy:

This morning we're getting a first look at unsubsidized prices for the iPhone 3G in Europe. Vodafone Italy has set an out-of-contract price for the iPhone 3G at 499/€569 ($773/$881) for the 8GB/16GB models, respectively. Subscription rates have not yet been announced. While steep, those prices are actually smartphone-reasonable in Italy (and around Europe) where an HTC Touch Cruise with its WiFi, tri-band HSDPA data, GPS, and touchscreen sells for €549. Capisce?

dazedandlost

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Maybe you will get that, but don't think you deserve it.

Can you expand on why you think I don't deserve it?

jester77

Celticwarrior wrote: »

UK:

Monthly Charge £35.... £45.....£75
EURO................€44.....€57....€95
Minutes.............600.....1200..3000
Texts................500.....500....500
Unlimited Data....Yes......Yes....Yes


IRE:

Monthly Charge..€45.....€65....€100
Minutes............175.....350.....700
Texts...............100.....150.....250
Data.................1GB....1GB.....1GB

Austria have released their pricing, so I'll add it for comparison, only 2 tariffs (classic & supreme), 24 month contract
I also added the price of the phone for 8GB/16GB

AT:

Monthly Charge..€39........€55
Minutes...........1000.......1000
Texts................0*........1000
Data**.............3GB........3GB
Phone .........249/299.....199/249

*25c per sms
** 10c/MB over the limit

vinnycoyne

Mr.S wrote: »

aren't italy one of the countries where its illegal to lock a phone to one network?

if not, then woohoo! lets hope it gets brought here

Regardless of whether or not it's legal, it means that there will be iPhone 3G's for sale on eBay!

silvine

Any ideas how much a pay as you go 3G iPhone would retail for?

carrotcake

silvine wrote: »

Any ideas how much a pay as you go 3G iPhone would retail for?

Take a look at the previous page.

silvine

EUR400 is a lot of cash for a phone/iPod. Although my current contract with 3 doesn't expire till November so I may have to grin and bear it!

vinnycoyne

EUR400 is not a lot, considering the technology inside the device.

silvine

It is an expensive thing to be carrying around especially when you consider how much wear and tear phones undergo and the probability of it going missing or being robbed.

tramoredude

What happened to the $199 price for the sim free 8gig?

To the fleabay!