Why can't foreigners drive properly !!!

The Artist

Jigsaw wrote: »

I don't think it is so much that they can't drive properly, but more that whatever country they come from the standard deemed accceptable to pass the driving test is probably considerably lower but because of the EU we probably have to accept all member states' motorists, even if they are virtually stock car racers.

I see a lot of foreigners driving early 90's Audi Quattro cars for some reason.

bmws as well.

ojewriej

Jigsaw wrote: »

I but more that whatever country they come from the standard deemed accceptable to pass the driving test is probably considerably lower

Here you don't need to pass a driving test at all to get on the road, so how can it be lower somewhere else? Thanks to this system you have plenty of drivers on the road who never had a driving lesson.

In Poland you have to do a course - 20 hours of driving with an instructor, and 5 hours of theory, before you can even take the test. That's a minimum.
And on average it takes 3 tries to pass the test. It's similar in other mainland countries as far as i know.

So to be honest, I don't think foreign (at least European) drivers are worse - they have more training than average Irish driver, and are driving more confidently, which to untrained eye may look like agressive and reckless driving.

bantee

I'm going to take the controvertial sexist line on this and say that there are so many poor women drivers on the road its unreal; especially when they begin to age, their awareness goes out the window.

I don't know how may times recently in car parks that women have nearly reversed out of a spot straight into the side of my car. Its only when I continuously beep them,that they look around and see me there, and then proceed to apologise through the back window. Some actually appear pissed or puzzled when they see a car behind them when they are trying to reverse out. And I know you are supposed to let people reverse out, but I'm talkin about busy car parks here, where they think they can just pop it into reverse and work away!!!

Also at roundabouts, many times ladies in massive space wagons or SUVs, often packed with kids, have just drove straight out in front of me without checking! Again, if you blow the horn, they look suprised to see another car there, and proceed to wave an apology.

Maybe they are just thinking of 90 different things to do, or what soaps are on later, I don't know!

lil-buttons

In fairness I will agree wit many statements made on this topic!

But I will agree the amount of times a black man or and woman cut me off, nearly crashed in to me - and to be fair the amount of lorrys that think they pwn the road and nearly took my life on several occasions- thinkin they can take over two lanes!

Or what about the guys(sorry sum guys) in jeeps - oh holy god they are ridiculas I assume they think that are god and have rules of their own !

I have to ask does any1 take it personally ?
As when Im on my own I dont really care but when my son is in the car and sum1 attempts to endanger his life by wreckless driving Im fit to burst them!

E.g - I was turning right on to a main road and it was quite busy!
A lovely man in ajeep bhind me decided to come around to my left hand side and overtake me as I was pulling out! What an arse-bandit! I to avoid crashing in to him I had to brake while a lorry was coming towards me! Well to say the least I lost the head ! I followed him and as soon as we got to a traffice light which was red out I got and let rip! Only for the Garda I would have killed hime seriously!

I know - I know I shouldnt hav gotten out of the car but that type of driving was a disgrace ! Obvoiously he was in a hurry to get sumwer important and that was more important than me and my sons life!

So the moral of the story is although there is poor foreign drivers on the road there are also plenty of poor Irish 1's who havnt got a clue!

P.S why do foriegners not put their children in the REQUIRED child car seats it breaks my heart everythime I see it ?

TwoShedsJackson

I wouldn't say ALL black women are ****e drivers, but any I've seen have been. Driving some old Micra ****box, already covered in dents and/or filthy, gaze fixed straight ahead, two or three kids usually bouncing around unrestrained on the back seat etc. etc.

One area where sterotypes do hold up is on the road, not just black women, or even women in general but taxis, white van drivers, soccer moms in SUVs and the likes.

gixerfixer

bantee wrote: »

I'm going to take the controvertial sexist line on this and say that there are so many poor women drivers on the road its unreal; especially when they begin to age, their awareness goes out the window.

I don't know how may times recently in car parks that women have nearly reversed out of a spot straight into the side of my car. Its only when I continuously beep them,that they look around and see me there, and then proceed to apologise through the back window. Some actually appear pissed or puzzled when they see a car behind them when they are trying to reverse out. And I know you are supposed to let people reverse out, but I'm talkin about busy car parks here, where they think they can just pop it into reverse and work away!!!

Also at roundabouts, many times ladies in massive space wagons or SUVs, often packed with kids, have just drove straight out in front of me without checking! Again, if you blow the horn, they look suprised to see another car there, and proceed to wave an apology.

Maybe they are just thinking of 90 different things to do, or what soaps are on later, I don't know!

I dont think thats sexist at all.Fair statement.They seem to think they own the road if the car is packed with kids and it's a huge 4x4 they are driving.Ive lost count of the times ive seen a 4x4 full of kids and the yummy mummy with the mobile to the ear doing a u-turn on a road where it's not allowed.Also the amount of kids in cars without seatbelts on is unreal.Think they should impose a driving ban on anyone caught driving around with kids in the back who arent wearing a seatbelt.stupid ******

Dudess

OP, as an Irish person, when you use the term "foreign" you are referring to 6.2 billion people.

No, your post is not racist, it is just extraordinarily, monumentally stupid.

dodgyme

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

because I said "slow lane" well done to pick up on that major flaw in my life, I must sort it out

no dont bother sorting it out. I call it slow/fast lane too and will continue too as long as sad f*ckers have to put the caveat that it (in squeezy nerdy voice) should be referred to as the overtaking lane before they will address the issue you are talking about.

PS: On topic - I agree with your initial comments.


FAST lane Slow lane Fast lane SLow lane Fast lane slow lane.:D

kevmy

Going to plunge in here. Driving in Ireland/UK/Australia is obviously different to driving in Europe which is also different to driving in America which is also different to driving in Africa.

First off coming from America or mainland Europe you have the different side of the road thing which can throw some people. If your coming from America you may also have to drive a manual which you would not be used to. In my experience most European drivers are on the same sort of level to Irish driver although they can have a tendency to speed a bit more than us - this could be explained by better roads where they learned and extra difficulty in getting anti-speeding messages across the language barrier.

However coming from America or Europe is a doddle compared to coming from Africa which has a complete different culture. Driving is conducted in a totally different way. Most licences obtained there don't transfer to here. That is why you see lots of the members of the African community driving around with L plates. It's our fault L drivers get away with so much. If you have lived in Ireland all your life you pick up alot of the etiquette and basic rules of driving in this country, arrive from a culture as far removed as Africa and you don't have this knowledge.
So yeah, I think there is a lot of bad foreign drivers on our road, not a race thing more a culture thing. It is exacerbated by our poor L-driver structure which allows pretty much anyone on the road.

dodgyme

Dudess wrote: »

OP, as an Irish person, when you use the term "foreign" you are referring to 6.2 billion people.

No, your post is not racist, it is just extraordinarily, monumentally stupid.

really I just thought he was being descriptive. I just looked the word up in dictionary.com
here is the first description there

"of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; not native: foreign cars."

it stand to reason that after ten years of migration to ireland quite a few people driving on our roads are foreign. Maybe not 6.2 billion people.?

Dudess

Do you not think it's just a tad general and vague?

Ponster

ojewriej wrote: »

Here you don't need to pass a driving test at all to get on the road, so how can it be lower somewhere else? Thanks to this system you have plenty of drivers on the road who never had a driving lesson.

In Poland you have to do a course - 20 hours of driving with an instructor, and 5 hours of theory, before you can even take the test. That's a minimum.
And on average it takes 3 tries to pass the test. It's similar in other mainland countries as far as i know.

+1

Ireland and the story of the person who drives to their driving test with a provisional licence, fails the test and then drives home, is still a great laugh for most of Europe.

dodgyme

Dudess wrote: »

Do you not think it's just a tad general and vague?

no

Phototoxin

Firstly having only come back from the uk a couple of weeks ago they are better drivers.

second Irish drivers are **** so they cannot complain

third the state of the roads is a joke considering the taxes that are paid.

Abi

Phototoxin wrote: »

Firstly having only come back from the uk a couple of weeks ago they are better drivers.

second Irish drivers are **** so they cannot complain

Are you foreign?


Now! Dont lie...

ejmaztec

All of the cars in Ireland are foreign (unless there are any survivors from the long-dead Ford factory), so it's logical that they should only be driven by foreigners. Whadya think?:cool:

Practical

KINGofHEARTS - Im with you on this one. Im far from racist however, I will be the first to say I have yet to have seen a black male/female drive coherently on irish roads. Call it generalisation all you want but im telling the truth coming from my perspective.

ART6

Practical wrote: »

KINGofHEARTS - Im with you on this one. Im far from racist however, I will be the first to say I have yet to have seen a black male/female drive coherently on irish roads. Call it generalisation all you want but im telling the truth coming from my perspective.

I have yet to see a female of any colour drive coherently on any roads:D

(Ducks and runs for cover)

Rob_l

Im not racist but if I had my way I'd murder every foreigner for being from a foreign country, how dare they, it really boils my blood when people are born in other countries.

EO

Ponster

workaccount wrote: »

f8ckin fast lane my hole.

You want us to 'fast lane your hole' ?

Could get messy....

workaccount

Ponster wrote: »

You want us to 'fast lane your hole' ?

Could get messy....

Hey how did you quote me? I didn't leave any message here.

Rb

I'd sympathise if he were talking about Egyptians, they're fúcking mental drivers and ones I don't want to encounter on our roads...ever.

2-ShortDa5foot5

Asians can't drive for sh1t. Fact!

Abi

Mrs Carberry: Feckin' Greeks!

COLM: It isn't the Greeks, it's the Asians he's after.

Fratton Fred

I agree totally. Every day I think to myself, "These bloody foreigners can't drive to save their lives"

Let me get this right, someone from a country where any idiot can drive around without passing a driving test, where hundreds of people a year are killed because they haven't a clue how to drive, is giving out about foreign drivers? LMAO.

gixerfixer

Yeap foreigners cant drive.Im sick and tired of Paddy Hennesey always winning the F1 world drivers championship and Micheal O' Dea becoming the world rally driving champion again and Paul O'Reilly becoming the Moto GP world champion and ...Oh thats right..:o

Steve_o

[quote=[Deleted User];56212908]Let me get this right, someone from a country where any idiot can drive around without passing a driving test, where hundreds of people a year are killed because they haven't a clue how to drive, is giving out about foreign drivers? LMAO.[/QUOTE]

+1

There are an awful lot of sh!t drivers in Ireland...don't be blaming foreigners FFS.

biko

[quote=[Deleted User];56212908]Let me get this right, someone from a country where any idiot can drive around without passing a driving test, where hundreds of people a year are killed because they haven't a clue how to drive, is giving out about foreign drivers? LMAO.[/QUOTE]

Quoted for feckin TRUTH!

Wertz

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

lol yes I dont know how to drive because I said "slow lane" well done to pick up on that major flaw in my life, I must sort it out

so your saying not knowing the right terminology for something makes you an idiot ???

No, I said that you saying you don't know the difference between the two lanes on a motorway suggests that you're one of these people who think the overtaking lane is their personal roadspace, irregardless of other road users. That doesn't mean you don't know how to drive, it simply means that you don't know how to use the road...

Where did I say I knew the right term for everything?
But if I'm going to argue a point, I'll damn well make sure and have my facts together before I start mouthing off...

dodgyme wrote: »

no dont bother sorting it out. I call it slow/fast lane too and will continue too as long as sad f*ckers have to put the caveat that it (in squeezy nerdy voice) should be referred to as the overtaking lane before they will address the issue you are talking about.

WTF? I adressed the OP's "issue"...but I called him out on his part about the "slow" lane since there's no such thing. I suppose I can bunch you in with the OP and every other overtaking lane hogger in the country then.
You think that's nerdish? My god, imagine, using the right names for things you're talking about, what's the world coming to...
Sad f*cker? Touché. Learn how to use the road; you can go fast in either lane, not just the one on the right...

Rb

Wertz wrote: »

No, I said that you saying you don't know the difference between the two lanes on a motorway suggests that you're one of these people who think the overtaking lane is their personal roadspace, irregardless of other road users. That doesn't mean you don't know how to drive, it simply means that you don't know how to use the road...

Where did I say I knew the right term for everything?
But if I'm going to argue a point, I'll damn well make sure and have my facts together before I start mouthing off...



WTF? I adressed the OP's "issue"...but I called him out on his part about the "slow" lane since there's no such thing. I suppose I can bunch you in with the OP and every other overtaking lane hogger in the country then.
You think that's nerdish? My god, imagine, using the right names for things you're talking about, what's the world coming to...
Sad f*cker? Touché. Learn how to use the road; you can go fast in either lane, not just the one on the right...

+1

I have to laugh at people referring to the overtaking lane as the "fast" lane. The greatest thing about it though is that these are the same people who'll be racking up the penalty points and being taken off the roads

Not to mention when gatsos will be privatised and we see them pop up everywhere, that will be such a good day.

workaccount

Wertz wrote: »

No, I said that you saying you don't know the difference between the two lanes on a motorway suggests that you're one of these people who think the overtaking lane is their personal roadspace, irregardless of other road users. That doesn't mean you don't know how to drive, it simply means that you don't know how to use the road...

Where did I say I knew the right term for everything?
But if I'm going to argue a point, I'll damn well make sure and have my facts together before I start mouthing off...



WTF? I adressed the OP's "issue"...but I called him out on his part about the "slow" lane since there's no such thing. I suppose I can bunch you in with the OP and every other overtaking lane hogger in the country then.
You think that's nerdish? My god, imagine, using the right names for things you're talking about, what's the world coming to...
Sad f*cker? Touché. Learn how to use the road; you can go fast in either lane, not just the one on the right...

Well said.

Wertz

If anything I consider the driving lane to be the "fast" lane...since the overtaking lane is usually bumper to bumper with people doing 100kmh.

As for RB's take on penalty points? When they start handing them out to lane hoggers, that stagnate the progress of every roaduser behind them, rather than to people doing a perfectly safe speed (above the limit) on a decent stretch of straight tarmac built for speeds well in excess of the posted limit, then I'll welcome them.
Sorry RB but private speed cameras are going to be another utter joke in a long running comedy of errors on Irish roads...what makes you think that private GATSOs are going to do anything other than make a packet for the private contractors involved in their running?

workaccount

Rb wrote: »

+1

I have to laugh at people referring to the overtaking lane as the "fast" lane. The greatest thing about it though is that these are the same people who'll be racking up the penalty points and being taken off the roads

Not to mention when gatsos will be privatised and we see them pop up everywhere, that will be such a good day.

Theres some private motorists group that have a website giving statistics and the like for fatalities on our roads. A very small percentage of them are actually on the type of roads the gatso's will be on. Dunno the website but if your interested I'd imagine you'll find it quite easily.

I also know but am not on expert that in the UK the gatso's are more a revenue generating tool than anything.

So Gay's basically full of sh*te.

Dudess

dodgyme wrote: »

really I just thought he was being descriptive. I just looked the word up in dictionary.com
here is the first description there

"of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; not native: foreign cars."

it stand to reason that after ten years of migration to ireland quite a few people driving on our roads are foreign. Maybe not 6.2 billion people.?

No. The OP has had a few bad experiences (apparently - he can only describe one) with drivers who are "foreign" - i.e. not white and/or not a native English speaker (guaranteed he's not including English people, Scottish people, Welsh people, Americans, Canadians, Aussies or Kiwis) and he's throwing them all into the one category - "foreign". Not only that, the language he uses implies that ALL those who are his idea of "foreign" can't drive properly.
That is not only a ludicrous generalisation, it is also exceptionally dumb.

Dudess

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

I don't know how they drive in Africa but they wanna fuukin snap happy on the roads over here, how are they even let on the roads

Hmmm... Africa's a BIG place.

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

and you know by looking at them that they are foreign

polish for example, spot them a mile away, nothing wrong with them ... just a fact that you know one as soon as you see them

LMAO - this is gold!

I have been cut up a good few times by foreigners and just thought I'd post it here as to why it always seems to be them

Always seems to be "them" - "them" being foreigners. Your posts are really, really stupid.

FruitLover wrote: »

See, black women drive like this: ba-doom-doom-cha, ba-doom-doom-cha, and white women drive like this: dee-di-dee-di-dee, dee-di-dee...

LOL
Brilliant!

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

this woman WAS FOREIGN... without a doubt, one of those big clourful dresses and hats to match, hardly the apparell of a dubliner

A Dubliner being a white, Irish person... Ah, I get it.

Practical wrote: »

KINGofHEARTS - Im with you on this one. Im far from racist however, I will be the first to say I have yet to have seen a black male/female drive coherently on irish roads. Call it generalisation all you want but im telling the truth coming from my perspective

Well you're not really agreeing with the OP since he said "foreigners" not black people - or is there no difference...?

elmolesto

[quote=[Deleted User];56212908]Let me get this right, someone from a country where any idiot can drive around without passing a driving test, where hundreds of people a year are killed because they haven't a clue how to drive, is giving out about foreign drivers? LMAO.[/QUOTE]

+1

I'm French and I cover about 600/800miles a week in this country, I can tell you Irish people really don't have a clue about driving. I mean people don't know about mirrors, indicators out to go round a roundabout...

Dudess

Some Irish people. But yeah, there are maniac drivers among us Irish.

OP, did you ever consider that you've encountered lunatic Irish drivers too, it's just that you notice the foreign ones more?

the_syco

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Anytime I seem to get cut off while driving its ALWAYS by foreigners, last week some black woman sauntering along in the slow lane comes straight in on top of me in the fast lane, no indicator, no look...nothing, I jammed on and skidded to about 2 feet of her car (which was already full of dents) I pulled along side her at the next lights and she's lookin at me as if nothing happened and she hadn't just nearly caused a major crash

honestly, whats the story with these eejits, where did they learn to drive and how on earth did they get a license, I don't know how they drive in Africa but they wanna fuukin snap happy on the roads over here, how are they even let on the roads

Replace "foreigner" with "skanger", and "black" with "L Driver". Same result.

=-=

elmolesto: a lot of people passing their tests aren't thought how to overtake, or about going fast on a motorway...:pac:

Capt'n Midnight

Irish drivers are really bad compared to the UK / Continent.
I mean really bad.

Almost no curtsey is shown when it comes helping the progress of others. Stuff like most drivers block the overtaking lane. Most drivers not indicating at roundabouts. Blatent misuse of junction boxes, what other country needs to paint junction boxes on a roundabout that's 20 ft in diameter ! And no one seems to have a clue how to use a merging/acceleration lane.

I haven't seen as many women in African dress travelling at 15-20mph and looking completely bewildered with kangaroo petrol as I used to. Then again I go a different route to work now.

And what about the culchies ??


Guards are supposed to be doing a clamp down on L-Drivers and mobile phones and other stuff next week. <yawn> it's not like they are going to nail 1 in 10 drivers , which would be dead easy if you enforced every penatly point offence, like the one about driving over hatched white lines.

menoscemo

this thread reminds me of something Dennis Wise once said.
He was captain of Chelsea at the time and before the season began after his club bought several new players he said:

"It's like the United Nations round here, we've got English players, we've got Scottish players, we've got Welsh players, we've got Irish players and we've got foreigners"

Dudess

LOL

Who says footballers are stupid eh?

FatherTed

kingofhearts, while you may not be a racist, your comment that black women are bad drivers certainly is.

But you're right, because no Irish person is never in any sort of motor vehicle accident, right?

It wasn't me!

If they are, you can bet there's a foreigner behind it!