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Heard rumour

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  • 11-06-2008 11:17am
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    bunny shooter
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    Heard that NARGC are threatening to pull out of FCP as promises have been renaged on ?

    Any feedback ?


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    Sparks
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    The rumour's incorrect. There was friction over the Gardai not progressing at the same pace as everyone else on the FCP; that's been addressed already and resolved. The FCP is continuing as normal.


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    bunny shooter
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    Sparks wrote: »
    The rumour's incorrect. There was friction over the Gardai not progressing at the same pace as everyone else on the FCP; that's been addressed already and resolved. The FCP is continuing as normal.

    Resolved ? Are you sure though ?

    Seems the saying no smoke without fire could be true in this case.

    Sparks are you saying NARGC are not threatening to pull out ?


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    Sparks
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    BS, I don't speak for the NARGC. I'm just saying that from what I heard from last night's FCP meeting, there were some problems; people brought them up; they got discussed; they were resolved; and no-one is quitting the FCP as a result.
    Seems the saying no smoke without fire could be true in this case.
    Yeah, so could the saying "evaluate your sources". There are people out there who would scupper the FCP for their own selfish interests y'know (and I'm not pointing fingers here, I'm just saying).


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    rrpc
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Resolved ? Are you sure though ?

    Seems the saying no smoke without fire could be true in this case.

    Sparks are you saying NARGC are not threatening to pull out ?

    No shooting body would take that kind of action without referring to the others first. This was agreed at the start of the process and as far as I know is still the case.

    People have suggested taking all sorts of action over the past few months, mainly over frustration with delays. However most of the delays have been unavoidable because of either legal or logistical reasons.


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    Bananaman
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    Just a related question

    Are the meeting minutes/highlights/decisions etc to be published from FCP meetings?

    B'Man


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    rrpc
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    Bananaman wrote: »
    Just a related question

    Are the meeting minutes/highlights/decisions etc to be published from FCP meetings?

    B'Man

    I think no is the answer to that.


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    Sparks
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    I would hope so Bman. It's been my biggest complaint about the FCP from day one. (hint, hint, to anyone on the FCP reading this :D )


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    rrpc
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    Sparks wrote: »
    I would hope so Bman. It's been my biggest complaint about the FCP from day one. (hint, hint, to anyone on the FCP reading this :D )

    I'd suggest you email Garrett Byrne then. He's the chairman and it's his decision.


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    thehair
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Heard that NARGC are threatening to pull out of FCP as promises have been renaged on ?

    Any feedback ?
    heard rumour :rolleyes:in the night bunny when you are a sleep:Djust tell the doctor that and your LOCAL F-A-O:eek::D:D:D


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    bunny shooter
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    rrpc wrote: »
    I'd suggest you email Garrett Byrne then. He's the chairman and it's his decision.

    Chairman, yes. But, a Chairman don't make the rules, he referees for want of a better word?


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    thehair
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Chairman, yes. But, a Chairman don't make the rules, he referees for want of a better ?
    GOOD POINT


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    bunny shooter
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    Sparks wrote: »
    Yeah, so could the saying "evaluate your sources". There are people out there who would scupper the FCP for their own selfish interests y'know (and I'm not pointing fingers here, I'm just saying).

    Here we go again a feeble attempt at disinformation and innenudo. This information has come to me from a very reliable source and a different source from my previous postings on the FCP. I guarantee you Sparks it's not from a certain individual/organisation banned from this site !

    DeVore isn't the only one with contacts in high places :D


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    bunny shooter
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    rrpc wrote: »
    I think no is the answer to that.

    Why not ?


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    Sparks
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    DeVore isn't the only one with contacts in high places :D
    No, he isn't.


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    thehair
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Why not ?

    a grey area again bunny:)


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    bunny shooter
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    thehair wrote: »
    a grey area again bunny:)

    I'm more of a black and white kind of guy :)


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    thehair
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    I'm more of a black and white kind of guy :)

    the door at the fcp is very dark inside do you want to go their:eek:


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    Sparks
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    I'm more of a black and white kind of guy :)
    Black and white are just shades of gray y'know...


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    thehair
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    Sparks wrote: »
    Black and white are just shades of gray y'know...
    aa


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    thehair
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    I'm more of a black and white kind of guy :)

    c


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    bunny shooter
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    In this case it's either a transparent or a secretative process. If it's the latter you'd have to wonder why.


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    rrpc
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    In this case it's either a transparent or a secretative process. If it's the latter you'd have to wonder why.

    Sorry bunny, but that won't wash. You've had an iterim report in March, a conference which was widely reported on here in May and you're calling it secretive?

    Stirring the sh1t again it seems.


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    thehair
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    ?


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    bunny shooter
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    rrpc wrote: »
    Sorry bunny, but that won't wash. You've had an iterim report in March, a conference which was widely reported on here in May and you're calling it secretive?

    Stirring the sh1t again it seems.

    How is expecting to know what's going on stirring ? Am I and all the other shooters who are supposedly represented by those in the FCP not entitled to know what's going on ? We live in a democracy, last time I looked. Strange politics at play here. Tell 'em nothing and tell 'em it's for their own good :rolleyes:

    Sparks excellent reporting here was frowned upon by some involved in the FCP, according to Sparks himself.


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    #26
    thehair
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    sorry from steve sparks


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    #27
    Sparks
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    TheHair, do I have to delete nonsensical comments here?


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    #28
    bunny shooter
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    A little humour is not a bad thing :D


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    thehair
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    Sparks wrote: »
    TheHair, do I have to delete nonsensical comments here?
    no i did .steve;)


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    rrpc
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    How is expecting to know what's going on stirring ? Am I and all the other shooters who are supposedly represented by those in the FCP not entitled to know what's going on ? We live in a democracy, last time I looked. Strange politics at play here. Tell 'em nothing and tell 'em it's for their own good :rolleyes:
    So the stuff that was published was 'nothing' was it? I'm sure the people involved in the FCP who spent their spare time producing that information and taking holidays from work to attend meetings, really appreciate the little regard yhou have for their input, work and sacrifice. I'm not on the FCP, but I have just spent the last two days and driven four hundred miles for the benefit of all shooters.

    You have no idea bunny, so really all I can say is grow up.
    Sparks excellent reporting here was frowned upon by some involved in the FCP, according to Sparks himself.
    According to Sparks himself it wasn't anybody on the FCP. Read his post again.


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    Vegeta
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    A little humour is not a bad thing :D

    A little yeah, not every second post

    Yes, I would like the FCP to be a little more transparent.

    Don't think it will happen though. I want results, if the meeting minutes being made public hinder this then I don't mind. If the shooting community can help by commenting on or submitting info based on meeting minutes then there could be benefit from making them public.


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