Campus Rooms

Ron DMC

bright wrote: »

Looking forward to laughing at you when you are being stalked for putting you room number on an internet message board.

I had my room number as my Location: (<---) on boards for a year, and not once did any weirdos use it to track me down (well, other than ilovemybrick).

Crash

Definitely not. I got rooms in 3rd year with a frankly poor academic record. Its all quite subjective to be honest.

ilovemybrick

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

I had my room number as my Location: (<---) on boards for a year, and not once did any weirdos use it to track me down (well, other than ilovemybrick).

tracked you down and fed you for a year.

sully-gormo

Emma Stokes, the Junior Dean, decides. To get a room you would want to be going into fourth year. Usually if you have 'done' stuff with your time in Trinity you'll be considered. Clubs Societies Publications etc..People who just go to lectures for three years and do nothing else dont get a look in as far as I know.

Awayindahils

sully-gormo wrote: »

Emma Stokes, the Junior Dean, decides. To get a room you would want to be going into fourth year. Usually if you have 'done' stuff with your time in Trinity you'll be considered. Clubs Societies Publications etc..People who just go to lectures for three years and do nothing else dont get a look in as far as I know.

Looking at the list of students who got campus roosm this year the number of 2nd years who got rooms (as in rising senior freshman, not rising junior sophs) is quite high, Ordinarily one would expect a few as a result of awards through clubs/socs/csc/sceim but there do seem to be a very high number even with that taken into account.

Scarinae

I'm in Botany Bay, woohoo! I'm really delighted! I doubt it's to do with academic record - I passed first year by compensation and I had to do the repeats for second year - however I was on the committee of a club and a society this year, and am head of a society next year, so I'd say that's what got me in

james80000

let me just say that the allocation process for rooms this year has been an absolute joke. it seems as if they did the allocation process and then accidentally gave everyone on the "rejected" list an offer by mistake.
people i know- heads of large societies, those with excellent academic record, anyone from outside dublin, anyone who was in halls, anyone who was away for the year- seem destined to be rejected. Many of the people who got it this year mainly seem to be people uninvolved from dublin. I know its a broad generalisation but the list of rejected people is really baffling.
its a complete shambles and SHAME on the junior dean and SHAME on the usual brainless decisions of trinity staff :mad: this university really needs a good kick up the arse

Crickish

But the thing is I am a rising senior soph, and I gave lots of time - perhaps too bloody much - to two du publications and sport as well as student mentoring the the past year (without getting too specific). Above all I made a conscious effort to participate outside my faculty (science).

A question I have is this - and I would appreciate any advice/answers.

On the original application form, I gave my home address as being in the Dublin metropolitan area. My parents have since had to move to Dubai quite suddenly, and I am following them out tomorrow. Having put my name on the waiting list for the second round of accomidation offers, would my application carry greater weight if I informed the office of my change in address?

Thanks

james80000

james80000 wrote: »

let me just say that the allocation process for rooms this year has been an absolute joke. it seems as if they did the allocation process and then accidentally gave everyone on the "rejected" list an offer by mistake.
people i know- heads of large societies, those with excellent academic record, anyone from outside dublin, anyone who was in halls, anyone who was away for the year- seem destined to be rejected. Many of the people who got it this year mainly seem to be people uninvolved from dublin. I know its a broad generalisation but the list of rejected people is really baffling.
its a complete shambles and SHAME on the junior dean and SHAME on the usual brainless decisions of trinity staff :mad: this university really needs a good kick up the arse

There was a rumour going around last year that:

Those heavily involved with societies and sports club would not be getting rooms as it was suspected that the these people were most likely to have parties and society meetings in their rooms.

I got rooms as third year since I was a captain, but I know in 4th year (perhaps the first year of this policy) that some captains and society heads did not get rooms.

Awayindahils

Crickish wrote: »

But the thing is I am a rising senior soph, and I gave lots of time - perhaps too bloody much - to two du publications and sport as well as student mentoring the the past year (without getting too specific). Above all I made a conscious effort to participate outside my faculty (science).

A question I have is this - and I would appreciate any advice/answers.

On the original application form, I gave my home address as being in the Dublin metropolitan area. My parents have since had to move to Dubai quite suddenly, and I am following them out tomorrow. Having put my name on the waiting list for the second round of accomidation offers, would my application carry greater weight if I informed the office of my change in address?

Thanks

Go into the accomodation office and explain the situation asap. Or since you're already gone ring them. (I know it will cost alot but having tried talking to them by email, phone and person, I have found the more human the contact the better the result)

When I was in 1st year I heard of people who got rooms after their family moved suddenly. Stress how you're not going to around during the summer.

As for the gernal rumors, I know people who had involvement coming out their ears who got it and then I know schols who got rooms. Thats about it from what I've heard.

shay_562

james8000 wrote:

let me just say that the allocation process for rooms this year has been an absolute joke. it seems as if they did the allocation process and then accidentally gave everyone on the "rejected" list an offer by mistake.
people i know- heads of large societies, those with excellent academic record, anyone from outside dublin, anyone who was in halls, anyone who was away for the year- seem destined to be rejected. Many of the people who got it this year mainly seem to be people uninvolved from dublin. I know its a broad generalisation but the list of rejected people is really baffling.
its a complete shambles and SHAME on the junior dean and SHAME on the usual brainless decisions of trinity staff this university really needs a good kick up the arse

I'd agree with you that there are some baffling exclusions from the accommodation list this year, people who I would have thought were basically guaranteed places on-campus due to the positions they'll be holding next year, but I don't think it's necessarily fair to generalise from that that all the people who did get it didn't deserve it, or were "people uninvolved from Dublin". While I'm surprised at some people who didn't get it, of everyone I know who has gotten it so far they've all been incredibly involved in some aspect of college life or another.

ilovemybrick

james80000 wrote: »

let me just say that the allocation process for rooms this year has been an absolute joke. it seems as if they did the allocation process and then accidentally gave everyone on the "rejected" list an offer by mistake.
people i know- heads of large societies, those with excellent academic record, anyone from outside dublin, anyone who was in halls, anyone who was away for the year- seem destined to be rejected. Many of the people who got it this year mainly seem to be people uninvolved from dublin. I know its a broad generalisation but the list of rejected people is really baffling.
its a complete shambles and SHAME on the junior dean and SHAME on the usual brainless decisions of trinity staff :mad: this university really needs a good kick up the arse

Have you considered perhaps what you consider "involved" is not what others consider involved? Or maybe their applications were poorly written. I think it's the height of arrogance to assume that your assertion that the university being in need of a good kicking is correct while the staff many of whom have organised the application process for several years are wrong in the allocations they made.

ilovemybrick

ilovemybrick wrote: »

Have you considered perhaps what you consider "involved" is not what others consider involved? Or maybe their applications were poorly written. I think it's the height of arrogance to assume that your assertion that the university being in need of a good kicking is correct while the staff many of whom have organised the application process for several years are wrong in the allocations they made.

Just a point - the person who ran the selection process left two years ago. The last two selections have been done by new staff and by the JD.

Ron DMC

Deleted User wrote: »

Just a point - the person who ran the selection process left two years ago. The last two selections have been done by new staff and by the JD.

Is that who I think it is? Who now works in the GSU? If so, great guy!

Ronny Mitchell

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Is that who I think it is? Who now works in the GSU? If so, great guy!

nope - this was a woman. but, from what I have heard, most of the old staff in accomodation have left, the new staff and supposed new selection criteria came in at the same time.

ElleH

Here I have to say...

Not sure if this answers peoples Qs but here you go!!

My experience is, I have some friends that have been rejected as well as friends that have received an offer like myself.

It is not fair for me to say which ones deserve it the most but what definitely can say is that the ones that got the offer hold Higher positions withing the committees they belong to (Societies and Clubs). Chairs and Captains and people involved in activities like mentoring programmes and so on...

Whether you or your friends believe you worked hard does not matter if you don't show it in your application. It is very different if you just say "I belong to such and such and took part in activities like" than saying "I belong to, I'm responsible of, organized such and such".

You have to be smart when filling your application and do not assume one sentence explains it all. Just be smart and sell yourself.


Took me 2 days and loads of thinking filling out my application. And also smart or not I did state my both addresses, Irish and Abroad.

james80000

ilovemybrick wrote: »

Have you considered perhaps what you consider "involved" is not what others consider involved? Or maybe their applications were poorly written. I think it's the height of arrogance to assume that your assertion that the university being in need of a good kicking is correct while the staff many of whom have organised the application process for several years are wrong in the allocations they made.

well i think it's important that the university somehow state what 'involved' is then. a poorly written application should not exclude you from getting college rooms- and I sincerely doubt that the people I have spoken to wrote a poor application. You say that I am at the height of arrogance to assume I'm correct- what does that even mean? A forum is for posting your views/opinions- of course people assume they are correct- otherwise nobody would have an opinion. And finally- just because people have been doing a job for years doesn't make them more qualified to make a good decision. Bottom line- I think the process is unfair and extremely cloudy. On the contrary to your assertion- I believe the Trinity staff (junior dean) is the one 'at the height of arrogance' by assuming she has the divine right to process applications on her own whim without any quantifiable criteria.

ilovemybrick

james80000 wrote: »

a poorly written application should not exclude you from getting college rooms

The fact that the application is poorly written is not what excluded them. It was the fact that there were better written ones and there are a limited number of allocations on campus. It is a crucial difference.

as for the rest of your post, yes you can have an opinion but it wont change the fact that you or you friends did not get rooms. so rant away.

Ron DMC

ilovemybrick wrote: »

as for the rest of your post, yes you can have an opinion but it wont change the fact that you or you friends did not get rooms. so rant away.

Wrong side of the bed this morning?

james80000

ilovemybrick wrote: »

The fact that the application is poorly written is not what excluded them. It was the fact that there were better written ones and there are a limited number of allocations on campus. It is a crucial difference.

as for the rest of your post, yes you can have an opinion but it wont change the fact that you or you friends did not get rooms. so rant away.

in fact i did get rooms. grow up

OK let's all move on.

patzer117

ok, taking up Myth's does anyone know what happens with waiting lists, when they are published, how people are picked etc.?

ilovemybrick

james80000 wrote: »

in fact i did get rooms. grow up

Nah.
I think what you did write is a rant. so i stand by my position.

Also the waiting lists are dealt with on a case by case basis. So when a room comes up that matches the criteria of the people on the waiting list the room is offered. but it won't be done at all until the end of july at least.

irishpacker

Change of topic :eek:

Does anyone know what the story is with the pearse street accomidation in houses 49 and 50 (the ones actually facing onto pearse street)? Has it been renovated to modern standard like botany bay? I've heard off a few people that the rooms are very small and the heating is abismal! Also, It's right above the day care centre! Looks like no lie-ins for me then!

ilovemybrick

ilovemybrick wrote: »

Nah.
I think what you did write is a rant. so i stand by my position.

Drop it. Last warning.

xeduCat

irishpacker wrote: »

Has it been renovated to modern standard like botany bay?

Depends on how you define modern

They were built (47-48/51-52) and converted for residential use (49-50) in the 1990s and haven't been 'renovated' since other than superficial stuff, although they were done to a relatively modern standard.

I've heard off a few people that the rooms are very small

They are on the small side, yeah, if you take into account that there are no living rooms/lounges (and the kitchens are really only for food prep and not for eating). For example, a Pearse St. bedroom is bigger than (most) Botany Bay bedrooms, but the Botany Bay rooms have a separate living room whereas Pearse doesn't. On the other hand, there are some good design tricks (large roll-out drawers under the bed, a really long desk, etc) that makes them easier to live in. If you're not a tidy person, you'll find it tough, but if you're organised, there is loads of storage space to tidy things into.

and the heating is abismal!

It's some bizarre storage heating system. If you can figure out how to work it, the room will warm up and stay warm for as long as you need it. And the shower is on a separate system so the hot water is always there, I think.

Also, It's right above the day care centre! Looks like no lie-ins for me then!

Not a huge problem for 49/50 - all bedrooms either face onto Pearse St itself (though this brings traffic noise) or onto the courtyard/Health Centre door, which means you don't overlook the 'play area'. There is some foot traffic as children arrive for the centre but it's not a huge noise for some of the higher rooms due to the layout of the stairs/platform - remember that all rooms in the Pearse complex are at at least first floor relative to the outdoor ground.

The west-facing rooms in Houses 48, now, face the play area for the creche, which is particularly noisy at about 11am...

irishpacker

xeduCat wrote: »

They are on the small side, yeah, if you take into account that there are no living rooms/lounges (and the kitchens are really only for food prep and not for eating).

No living area??? Are you having a laugh? How does that work? Where are you meant to chillax and eat your dinner?

Also thanks for the info!

xeduCat

irishpacker wrote: »

No living area??? Are you having a laugh?

No, I'm for real - I lived there three times (three different buildings!)

How does that work? Where are you meant to chillax and eat your dinner?

It varies. You eat your dinner on the above-mentioned long desk (at the start, I was organised in that I had one end of the desk for computer/work and the other end for food/drink - but that didn't last long) - though as the kitchens in Pearse are a little on the basic side*, you may find yourself using the Buttery (or takeaway food, or offcampus restaurants) quite a lot.

As for your chillaxing, varies according to taste - there is something resembling an armchair (not very squishy though) in your room, and some people bring in TVs, audio systems, beanbags, games consoles, that sort of thing (but again this will go in your own bedroom as there is no shared space other than the kitchen) - others just spend as little time as possible in the room and take up a corner of a GMB conversation room, or a desk in the library, or a stool at a bar!

* Ah, the kitchens. OK so the ones in 47-48-51-52 (kitchen between four residents) are different to those in 49-50 (around seven, I think), though the main difference is that there is more of the same equipment in 49-50 (i.e two fridges not one). But the basic configuration is a fridge (with icebox, no freezer), a "microwave/conventional oven/grill" 3-in-1, a sink unit and a couple of counter-top rings (with in some cases the fridge cunningly hidden underneath it), and a few (small) storage presses. There isn't really much in the way of food-prep space, and nowhere to sit, so - although it's possible to do complicated things - residents tend to use it for preparing breakfast, snacks, ready meals etc rather than major cooking. (Though I did have a vegetarian neighbour who seemed to be able to cook full, complex meals every day). In case people are interested in the other areas, GMB kitchens/lounges (1 per 4 or 5 in House 30, 1 (larger) per 7 in House 28) have a full oven (though I'm not sure if there's a College-supplied microwave) and counter space and a table/"couch", Goldsmith Hall is broadly similar though the numbers do vary a bit more, as do the sizes, Botany Bay is a private kitchen/lounge for the residents of a "set" (apartment, essentially - 2/3 people) which is probably closest to what you'd expect an open plan kitching/living/dining area in a modern apartment, Front Square is similar although again the numbers are all over the place. New Square and Rubrics are (in all cases I think) gas kitchens rather than electric, some have very big fridges and most have tables, though in many cases the tables are more like coffee tables than dinner tables, and there's - in most cases - no couch/chairs in the shared kitchens in New Square.

j1smithy

Back in the day when I was a student, I knew of one guy who had been evicted from trinity hall for a serious offence (believe he was almost kicked out of college for it) got campus for final year. Others i knew had been living in trinity halls for two years then got campus for final year. Moreover anecdotially it would seem an awful amount of Dublin people get places on campus, which is totally ridiculous. I knew one girl who lives next to Booterstown DART station who got a room, who had no involvement with societies. It would seem the allocation is almost random, and that they dont read even the adresses of the applicants, let alone that daft personal essay.

By right, no one who lives within an easy commuting distance should be entitled to be considered for rooms. The current system is very unfair.

irishpacker

xeduCat wrote: »

No, I'm for real - I lived there three times (three different buildings!)

I'm actaully in shock over this :eek: ... no living area, and no kitchen table? What the hell am I paying nearly 5000euro for then? A mattress? I'm struggling to imagine a kitchen without an eating area... do people brings tables from home? (Never thought that would be an issue but there it is!)

There can't be as good an atmosphere in the flat without a lounge area, do people just hide in their rooms? Or is it common practice to leave room doors open and wander around using other peoples TV's in their rooms?