Peter Collins or Bill O'Herlihy?

estebancambias

For the record I think young Collins might grow into this role in time. I'd say Bill has one comp left in him, if even.

Dub13

Peter Collins

estebancambias wrote: »

For the record I think young Collins might grow into this role in time. I'd say Bill has one comp left in him, if even.

I would say its been a while since he has been described as 'young Collins'.

estebancambias

Well he's a baby in comparison to the rest of them.

Dub13

Peter Collins

estebancambias wrote: »

Well he's a baby in comparison to the rest of them.

Come to think of it he is hard to put an age on,what would you say..?

mike65

Peter Collins

I'd say he is late 30s

Mike.

Dub13

Peter Collins

mike65 wrote: »

I'd say he is late 30s

I would say mid 40s but one of these 'new men' types who like to get waxed and use sun beds.They are a cnut to put a age on.

mike65

Peter Collins

Could be, he also has a full head a nice shiny black hair which gets you a long way.

Mike

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Has to be our Billo! I just had this realisation that bill,eamon,liam, and johnny giles won't be around forever... it's gonna be sooo **** when they go. Houghton, Cunningham, Stevens... that's ****in sick. Although Cunningham is almost comical so maybe that's not fair.

Kenny Cunningham has really grown into being a TV pundit. He was a tad wooden at first but has become very good (also has cut out saying "possibly so" every 5 seconds;)) He has been a extremely competant co-commentator and is finally starting to put life into his analysis.

Speaking of co-commentators, what ever happened to Jim Beglin?

mike65

Peter Collins

Beglin is on the ITV panel. I heard him the other night.

Mike.

estebancambias

Doesn't Beglin only do Irish matches?

Pigman II

Peter Collins hair disturbs me.

Bill is the perfect panel host because he "acts" (lol, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt) like he hasn't got a clue whats going on and therefore can be inquisitive on a variety of levels.

Racing Flat

Peter Collins

Bill = institution
Peter Collins = long way to go

gogglebok

leninbenjamin wrote: »

funny the OP should say Bill hasn't a clue... more often than not his predictions (when he makes them) are better than the rest of the panel.

Yeah, I may have overstated that. I thought he was great yesterday, and he does play the straight-man very well. Why was Brady so grumpy with him yesterday? "I don't know where you get your facts, Bill."

Ah, I get it. He still has some Arsenal loyalty to Henry.

gogglebok

MementoMori wrote: »

However with Bill, Dunphy, Gilesie and one of Chippy/Souness in the studio, there is always the possibility of magic in the air. :D:D

Completely agree. The gulf in class between RTE's football coverage and everyone else's is unbelievable. It's intelligent, passionate, funny, and completely fearless. I think someone wuold be bounced out of the BBC studios at half time for saying that European football is corrupt and incompetent, or criticising the FA, or having such a fierce go at individual players.

I may still have last night's porter seeping out of my liver, but RTE football makes me proud to be Irish.

BBC panel on the battle of the Somme: "I think Field-Marshall Haig will be a little disappointed with that."

Racing Flat

Peter Collins

A bit off topic but still relating to tv coverage, isn't hilarious how SSNs top story at 10pm was NZ v England cricket rather than anything about Holland. Wonder would this be the case if they were showing games?

mike65

Peter Collins

gogglebok wrote: »

BBC panel on the battle of the Somme: "I think Field-Marshall Haig will be a little disappointed with that."

It should noted that the RTE panel has developed as it as at least in part due to the vast amount of airtime availible, on the Beeb or ITV they show matches on the main channels and are always pushed for time, RTE simply clears 6 hours and says "right lads, fill your boots" So they do.

Mike.

gogglebok

mike65 wrote: »

It should noted that the RTE panel has developed as it as at least in part due to the vast amount of airtime availible, on the Beeb or ITV they show matches on the main channels and are always pushed for time, RTE simply clears 6 hours and says "right lads, fill your boots" So they do.

It's a great decision. I'm the first to knock RTE for almost everything, but they really have the edge in sport.

taidghbaby

peter has impressed me i have to say!

but bill shows how to grow old gracefully on tv punditry-he's like a good brandy: gets better with age......

jim magee on the other hand:mad:

taidghbaby

Racing Flat wrote: »

A bit off topic but still relating to tv coverage, isn't hilarious how SSNs top story at 10pm was NZ v England cricket rather than anything about Holland. Wonder would this be the case if they were showing games?

was the same with the rugby world cup last year!!

it could also have somethin to do with the fact england arent in it!!1

Anyway when they do cover somethin they have the rights to then every second statement is invariably: "exclusively live on SS1 now"

SectionF

gogglebok wrote: »

I think someone wuold be bounced out of the BBC studios at half time for saying that European football is corrupt and incompetent, or criticising the FA, or having such a fierce go at individual players.

Surely that is simply because they are not in the same country?

We don't get much by way of critical analysis of GAA from RTE Sport: the hype doesn't leave any room for it. So it's fair to assume that if the football was domestic and of the same scale of importance in Europe then this much-vaunted fearlessness (who should they be afraid of?) would be rather less in evidence.

gogglebok

SectionF wrote: »

Surely that is simply because they are not in the same country?

We don't get much by way of critical analysis of GAA from RTE Sport: the hype doesn't leave any room for it. So it's fair to assume that if the football was domestic and of the same scale of importance in Europe then this much-vaunted fearlessness (who should they be afraid of?) would be rather less in evidence.

But they are just as fearless about the FAI as they are about any English organisation. I'm sure they must have come under pressure to go easier on the Irish team, but they slaughtered them when it was against the mood of the country, in Italia 90, and they weren't any gentler on McCarthy or Kerr or Staunton. The only time I'm seen evidence of caution, let alone fear, was when they made Dunphy read out his allegations about Venables rather than improvise them. They still let him go ahead, and it was biting.

SectionF

gogglebok wrote: »

But they are just as fearless about the FAI as they are about any English organisation. I'm sure they must have come under pressure to go easier on the Irish team, but they slaughtered them when it was against the mood of the country, in Italia 90, and they weren't any gentler on McCarthy or Kerr or Staunton. The only time I'm seen evidence of caution, let alone fear, was when they made Dunphy read out his allegations about Venables rather than improvise them. They still let him go ahead, and it was biting.

I don't buy it. It's a national pastime to slag off FAI. Nothing exceptional there.

gogglebok

SectionF wrote: »

I don't buy it. It's a national pastime to slag off FAI. Nothing exceptional there.

My point is that there is nothing like it on British television, and if there was heads would roll. It is, as you say, and a national pastime to slag the FAI. Some of the best and most vociferous examples of it come from Dunphy and co, and they should be applauded for it.

Mr Alan

Peter Collins

APM, applehunter, Bubs101, DmanDmythDledge, DSB, dsmythy, IRISHSPORTSGUY, micmclo, Neil1984, Seaneh, SectionF, shockwave, Telgere

seriously, wat the **** are you thinkng?

SectionF

gogglebok wrote: »

My point is that there is nothing like it on British television, and if there was heads would roll.

That is why, if you were looking for a parallel, you would have to see RTE Sport getting stuck into the GAA before you called them fearless or groundbreaking. Now that would be career-threatening.
There is no downside for an Irish broadcaster dissing English football. It's fantasy punditry. That is also why the programme can have an anchor who patently knows very little about football and has little interest beyond the theatre that is being staged in his studio.

ciaran76

Dub13 wrote: »

Poll added.

I have not made my mind up yet,Collins has gone up in my book since the Euros started but I still cant make my mind up.

Agree with Dub13 on this. He has gone up in my estimation since the Euros started.

OPENROAD

Peter Collins

collins on again tonight :mad::mad:

Smegball

I like both, Bill just seems like the trademark of the RTE along with Dunphy, just seems right.

LostinBlanch

OPENROAD wrote: »

collins on again tonight :mad::mad:

Well don't forget Bill has been seriously ill lately.

OPENROAD

Peter Collins

LostinBlanch wrote: »

Well don't forget Bill has been seriously ill lately.

seriously?

Im_No_Superman

Peter Collins

Recovering from cancer since late December. Hopefully he is doing ok.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/oherlihy-on-mend-after-cancer-battle-1253184.html

Mr.Nice Guy

Peter Collins

Im_No_Superman wrote: »

Recovering from cancer since late December. Hopefully he is doing ok.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/oherlihy-on-mend-after-cancer-battle-1253184.html

Wow I had no idea. As you say, hopefully he's doing alright.

OPENROAD

Peter Collins

I did not know either, hope he is fully recovered.

Vincent Vega

Peter Collins

mewso wrote: »

Hard to put the finger on it but hes part of a crop of staff RTE have with weird accents that seems unreal or something. Should let some personality into his presenting.

this.

He sounds like one of these hollywood reporter style guys. real fake sounding accent. drives me mad.

but....
If you are a fan of Peter Collins, tonight is your night, as he is all you can hear in the Nigeria - South Korea match:mad:

mike65

Peter Collins

Eeugh! Peter Collins, did you have to search out this thread and BUMP it?

Vincent Vega

Peter Collins

lol yep.
after listening to him and him alone for 15 mins, including the sound of his breathing when no other sound was to be heard, I just had to know if anyone disliked his style as much as me.
lmao, he just came on again there outta knowhere (i'm in a different tab)

recylingbin

Peter Collins

Poll would have been alot closer if the choices were beteen Peter Collins and bowel cancer.

SarahBM

Can I not vote for Darragh Moloney??? he's better than both.

stumpypeeps

Peter Collins

SarahBM wrote: »

Can I not vote for Darragh Moloney??? he's better than both.

He's absolute rubbish. The charisma of a clamp only more irritating.

I'd pay the fine to get him off the air.

kronsington

stumpypeeps wrote: »

He's absolute rubbish. The charisma of a clamp only more irritating.

I'd pay the fine to get him off the air.

could you explain exactly why you dont like moloney? i think he's been great so far

Vincent Vega

Peter Collins

kronsington wrote: »

could you explain exactly why you dont like moloney? i think he's been great so far

me too.
I think hes alot easier going when the lads go at it arguin, whereas collins looks like hes gettin nervy that they won't get through the material before the commercials.
Tries a bit too hard to be a pro.

SarahBM

Darragh is great! he makes great points, has the craic too. not half as boring as the likes of murphy and collins.

Aidric

Peter Collins

Tony O Donoghue has an air of smug git off him.

Mr.Nice Guy

Peter Collins

Joanne Cantwell should get a chance.

stumpypeeps

Peter Collins

kronsington wrote: »

could you explain exactly why you dont like moloney? i think he's been great so far

He just irritates me, I would say that everyone I know who watches football dislikes him. A lot of it stems from his time on The Premiership. Just awful.

Plus he wears glasses and much like Pol Pot, I've never trusted anyone with spectacles.

Lukker-

Peter Collins

Bill hasn't been the same since they stopped showing the Playstation ad with the vultures.

niallk

Peter Collins

This really should be a Maloney versus Collins thread. I for one am delighted I haven't had to see or hear Peter Collins this summer. He gives the air that he would much rather be an American news anchor, but only for one of the major networks. Pompous git, and although I'd rather hear Darragh Maloney in the commentary box he's much more my cup of tea than Collins. Commentary on the RTE is unbearable (with George Hamilton taking great delight in announcing the first corner of the half, especially if it happens more that ten mins in "Believe it or not that is Brazil's first corner", fascinating) but the punditry is unmissable, unless it involves Ronnie "The Granny" Whelan.