PSNI Recruitment - Stage 2 - The Assessment Centre

QueenP

Any sign of the good news we are set to hear yet?:)

pb82

QueenP wrote: »

Any sign of the good news we are set to hear yet?:)

I've heard nothing yet

Mop a top

I'm missing something. What good news is this?

ZeGerman

Nothing yet, I'm hoping George isn't going to make me look stupid today lol.

pb82

Stormont come to an agreement about the welfare reform

This should be good news

MissWillow12

Sthm wrote: »

Anyone here score 80+?

I did.

Goonerdee

MissWillow12 wrote: »

I did.

Wow, well done. Wish I was where you are.

Razer33

I guess there wasn't any further news released about how this recruitment will pan out? Are we still looking at a proposed intake of just 100?

Suzuka

You'd imagine if any sort of budget announcement was going to be made it would probably be in the January monitoring round when DOJ decides who gets what etc. Could be wrong though

HighburyLad

I agree, also just reading over the results email there and it states along the lines that the psni intend to complete this campaign through to conclusion as originally planned? Is that not positive? As originally planned was 378 for 1405, or am I looking for something that isn't there lol

Razer33

HighburyLad wrote: »

I agree, also just reading over the results email there and it states along the lines that the psni intend to complete this campaign through to conclusion as originally planned? Is that not positive? As originally planned was 378 for 1405, or am I looking for something that isn't there lol

Yeah i took the same from it, pure speculation on my part but surely taking 100 would be counterproductive as it would mean splashing out on a campaign from scratch much sooner. I doubt we will hear much now over the christmas period as Suzuka said.

valor rorghulis

Razer33 wrote: »

Yeah i took the same from it, pure speculation on my part but surely taking 100 would be counterproductive as it would mean splashing out on a campaign from scratch much sooner. I doubt we will hear much now over the christmas period as Suzuka said.

I'm hoping the new chief constable is just playing his hand at the moment. Once the politicians sort out a financial deal for NI he'll be in a better position to demand more funding.

Have to say I really like the new chief constable, wasn't a huge fan of Matt Baggot, felt he just didn't really "get" Northern Ireland

HighburyLad

The chief con now, knows the score he's done well thus far and he is pushing for more recruits he's been honest and upfront we're predecessors would not have been so much, there was nothing wrong with Matt Baggot he was just brought in as a more peace time mediator chief if that makes sense and northern Ireland unfortunately will never see true peace.

Razer33

Lets hope it pans out reasonably, would be beyond gutting to be sitting capable of passing final stages with a decent AC score and politics be anyone's downfall

soalpy

how important is your AC score>?

Mop a top

soalpy wrote: »

how important is your AC score>?

In a word....extremely!!

Basically after your AC they'll have you on a merit list. Highest scores are first to be given vetting forms, be called for PCA, medicals and then play the waiting game for a call to start in GV. Obviously they're still calling people in the 60's but if there's only 100 spaces on campaign two I can't see them getting down the list too far.

Phil_91G

Hi...
Was on a while ago explaining I passed the AC, I obviously haven't heard anything just yet was just wondering if anyone knew what to expect, is it just an Email agin or is it a letter to my home,

Any help here would be great

Thanks

Cromlech

Phil_91G wrote: »

Hi...
Was on a while ago explaining I passed the AC, I obviously haven't heard anything just yet was just wondering if anyone knew what to expect, is it just an Email agin or is it a letter to my home,

Any help here would be great

Thanks

The stages after the AC are administered directly by the psni and they don't seem to use email very much for communication with applicants.

You most likely will recieve information in the post at some point depending on your score, but don't sit about waiting on the postman and worrying someone gets something and you don't (I did/still doing it and it drives you Insane). Just carry on as you did before, enjoy life outside of recruitment and roll with the stages/correspondence as they come.

JROB

Mop a top wrote: »

In a word....extremely!!

Basically after your AC they'll have you on a merit list. Highest scores are first to be given vetting forms, be called for PCA, medicals and then play the waiting game for a call to start in GV. Obviously they're still calling people in the 60's but if there's only 100 spaces on campaign two I can't see them getting down the list too far.

Hi all, Im pretty new to the site.

So say they decide to let everyone who passed the AC onto the next stages of the process. Is there still a chance even if I pass the next stages with flying colours, that I wont get called forward to Garnerville? Will they still be using AC scores at this point to call recruits forward?

Razer33

JROB wrote: »

Hi all, Im pretty new to the site.

So say they decide to let everyone who passed the AC onto the next stages of the process. Is there still a chance even if I pass the next stages with flying colours, that I wont get called forward to Garnerville? Will they still be using AC scores at this point to call recruits forward?

Pretty much all you can do is pass/fail these next stages, your AC score will determine when you get to do them and ultimately if you get called depending on the numbers they are taking, which is all quite up in the air at the moment.

JROB

Razer33 wrote: »

Pretty much all you can do is pass/fail these next stages, your AC score will determine when you get to do them and ultimately if you get called depending on the numbers they are taking, which is all quite up in the air at the moment.

But say (for example), they are looking to recruit 300 people. 500 get called onto the next stages and pass. How do they pick those 300 from the 500 candidates? Do your AC scores come into play again then? Sorry if im being stupid, its tricky to get your head around.

Sthm

JROB wrote: »

But say (for example), they are looking to recruit 300 people. 500 get called onto the next stages and pass. How do they pick those 300 from the 500 candidates? Do your AC scores come into play again then? Sorry if im being stupid, its tricky to get your head around.

If all of the 500, for talk sake, passed the PSNI administered stages and there were only 300 to be appointed then they'd choose the top 300 in order of AC scores.

Razer33

JROB wrote: »

But say (for example), they are looking to recruit 300 people. 500 get called onto the next stages and pass. How do they pick those 300 from the 500 candidates? Do your AC scores come into play again then? Sorry if im being stupid, its tricky to get your head around.

Theres absolutely no such thing as a stupid question when it comes to this process and all are helpful.
Basically what Sthm said, your AC score will play a massive role as they use it to form the merit list.

pb82

As above, your AC Score determines everything time wise throughout the process

Now that your details are with the psni the rest of the process is in batches

It isn't like when deloitte were in control ie everyone who passed the ist gets called to the AC

The psni will send out vetting forms to a batch of candidates with the highest scores and then this batch will continue on to the pca, medical and merit list where they will wait for the call

This process is repeated until either the funding runs out or the merit pool is exhausted

Goonerdee

pb82 wrote: »

As above, your AC Score determines everything time wise throughout the process

Now that your details are with the psni the rest of the process is in batches

It isn't like when deloitte were in control ie everyone who passed the ist gets called to the AC

The psni will send out vetting forms to a batch of candidates with the highest scores and then this batch will continue on to the pca, medical and merit list where they will wait for the call

This process is repeated until either the funding runs out or the merit pool is exhausted

Praying for the latter!

StingrayGC

Looks like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel.

Parties reach agreement in Stormont talks, "Broad agreement" has been reached in talks between the five parties in the Stormont power-sharing administration.

Sorry I cant post a link as I am a newbie, just give it a quick google, looks like David Cameron has promised £2 Billion, hopefully some of these funds will be used for police recruitment.

coolhand50

anyone have any idea what the numbers are like tested at AC? is it around the 500 mark or maybe 1000? i passed AC but with a VERY low score btw, just to add to the list from before lol!

StingrayGC

I think it is just a matter of waiting now, enjoy your Christmas and try not to worry about something we have no control over, hopefully the new year will bring some good news for some of us.

Youdontknowme6

I wonder what this new deal means for Northern Ireland and specifically the PSNI, surely they will get some of this money or have their cuts stopped at least. Hopfully we will hear more of the details the next couple of days.

I have a decent AC score but not sure how many would actually be above me. Do you guys think there will be many scored in the 80-90 range?

valor rorghulis

Youdontknowme6 wrote: »

I wonder what this new deal means for Northern Ireland and specifically the PSNI, surely they will get some of this money or have their cuts stopped at least. Hopfully we will hear more of the details the next couple of days.

I have a decent AC score but not sure how many would actually be above me. Do you guys think there will be many scored in the 80-90 range?

I doubt many, and I suspect the vast majority to get such a high score were those who had previously completed an assessment centre and therefore knew what was coming. This would mean some of them could actually get in from the previous campaign.

in a nutshell, you're in a great position, make sure you're in good fitness

Mop a top

Lol I did much worse 2nd time round

AAPD123

Do we get sent a merit list so see were we actually lie on it?

StingrayGC

I honestly don't know but I would doubt it.

AAPD123

StingrayGC wrote: »

I honestly don't know but I would doubt it.

how did you get on in the ist/ac?

StingrayGC

I just barely scrapped through the IST, hate those things, I got 70% in the AC, so fingers crossed but I think it's just a waiting game, hopefully when the first batch are called for PCT they will post on here with their AC results, which should give us an idea of our position.

Well that's my take on it anyways, how did you get on?

AAPD123

51 IST 75 AC so i dunno where ill lie.. im sure we'll not hear anything until the new year though?

StingrayGC

With a score of 75% you should be well in there with an early shout, well done, just keep up the fitness and wait for the envelope, I would say the first letters will be out early January, but that is a total guess

AAPD123

thanks pal. I hope so. We'll hopefully hear what the intake numbers are aswell.

Cromlech

AAPD123 wrote: »

Do we get sent a merit list so see were we actually lie on it?

Unfortunately not. I was just happy to be on it, you both have pretty good scores so I wouldn't worry too much.

pb82

Cromlech wrote: »

Unfortunately not. I was just happy to be on it, you both have pretty good scores so I wouldn't worry too much.

You don't go into the actual 'merit pool' until you have completed all 5 stages

Cromlech

pb82 wrote: »

You don't go into the actual 'merit pool' until you have completed all 5 stages

"· The Assessment Centre consists of a series of exercises designed to assess how candidates deal with real-life policing scenarios. These are both interactive and written exercises, and are similar to the types of exercises that the successful candidates will encounter in training.
· Those who meet the required standard are placed on a merit list, and this list is then passed to the PSNI. At this stage there are five further stages to be looked at: medical; vetting; physical competency assessment; substance misuse testing; and online learning.
· Those who successfully complete these stages are invited to an induction weekend. They are placed on a merit list which is to last until March 2015. Candidates will be processed in waves according to the number being recruited each time."

It says applicants are placed on a merit list both after the AC and then again after the PSNI administered stages.

pb82

Cromlech wrote: »

"· The Assessment Centre consists of a series of exercises designed to assess how candidates deal with real-life policing scenarios. These are both interactive and written exercises, and are similar to the types of exercises that the successful candidates will encounter in training.
· Those who meet the required standard are placed on a merit list, and this list is then passed to the PSNI. At this stage there are five further stages to be looked at: medical; vetting; physical competency assessment; substance misuse testing; and online learning.
· Those who successfully complete these stages are invited to an induction weekend. They are placed on a merit list which is to last until March 2015. Candidates will be processed in waves according to the number being recruited each time."

It says applicants are placed on a merit list both after the AC and then again after the PSNI administered stages.

Never noticed that before

More worrying would be the fact it says the merit list is only held until March 2015

Does this mean there will be 2 more squads from campaign 1 only?

Cromlech

pb82 wrote: »

Never noticed that before

More worrying would be the fact it says the merit list is only held until March 2015

Does this mean there will be 2 more squads from campaign 1 only?

I thought the opposite of you and always thought there was only one merit list but thought it was after AC and not after everything is complete as well.

This process is quite confusing at times, especially when we receive very little info while waiting.

It is worrying I'm hoping that there aren't any/many 64's left and the 63-62 are in the next batch of calls if they go out.

Psni26

Is it unrealistic to think that someone with a score of 60 would ever be called?

pb82

Psni26 wrote: »

Is it unrealistic to think that someone with a score of 60 would ever be called?

No not at all

It all just depends on funds

Suzuka

pb82 wrote: »

Never noticed that before

More worrying would be the fact it says the merit list is only held until March 2015

Does this mean there will be 2 more squads from campaign 1 only?

I've heard from a few sources that campaign 2 intakes start May 2015, so the March 2015 deadline for campaign 1 would make sense if they have to do it before end of the current financial year

Icarus9

So we reckon on a couple more intakes from campaign one until that merit list is finished and they move onto campaign 2? If intake one from campaign 2 is going in during May then the top scores should be doing their fitness late January? The question is will there be a break between campaign one and two intakes, probably not as the college is all set up for training with staff etc

laracroft

I apologise for my complete ignorance! Is Campaign One last year's recruits? So I'm Campaign Two?? (I did my AC in Oct and got my score at the start of Dec)?

Passed, only just (65) so obviously apprehensive to hear this news. It's the not knowing whether I'll get through to the next stage - this is a difficult recruitment system.

If the merit list is being finished in March does this include both campaigns. Wonder if anyone from Campaign One with a score of 65 has not been contacted yet? If I don't get through because I'm not sufficiently high up on the merit list, then I'll try again next year, as I really want this, but this system is odd. I personally think that if you pass the scores (the benchmark set by the PSNI) in any stage then you should automatically go to the next stage. If a merit list needs to be used to reduce numbers then surely it should only be done at the very end? It's weird passing something and feeling happy about it, yet not knowing whether I'll get to do the next stage!

Final question - I've changed address since the recruitment campaign started - does anyone know if I need to phone the psni to tell them? There's no info. about who to contact for admin. on my emails.
Thanks guys!

Sthm

Campaign one commenced September 2013 and is still ongoing with presumably a couple of squads left to be appointed before completion of the campaign. Campaign one's merit list has been said to expire come March 2015.

Campaign two refers to the campaign this year from which AC results were released earlier this month. Once all of the appointments have been made from campaign one, campaign two's squads will start rolling through into training. Chief Con said the first squad from campaign two is to be expected around May 2015. If this is still the case, phasing the first batch through vetting, PCA etc. would need to start pretty soon.

warofattrition

laracroft wrote: »

I apologise for my complete ignorance! Is Campaign One last year's recruits? So I'm Campaign Two?? (I did my AC in Oct and got my score at the start of Dec)?

Passed, only just (65) so obviously apprehensive to hear this news. It's the not knowing whether I'll get through to the next stage - this is a difficult recruitment system.

If the merit list is being finished in March does this include both campaigns. Wonder if anyone from Campaign One with a score of 65 has not been contacted yet? If I don't get through because I'm not sufficiently high up on the merit list, then I'll try again next year, as I really want this, but this system is odd. I personally think that if you pass the scores (the benchmark set by the PSNI) in any stage then you should automatically go to the next stage. If a merit list needs to be used to reduce numbers then surely it should only be done at the very end? It's weird passing something and feeling happy about it, yet not knowing whether I'll get to do the next stage!

Final question - I've changed address since the recruitment campaign started - does anyone know if I need to phone the psni to tell them? There's no info. about who to contact for admin. on my emails.
Thanks guys!

Campaign 1 is the 2013 drive.I think people scoring 64%have been called for the next squad.The campaign for next year has been cancelled so whoever is in the running for campaigns 1 and 2 are the only ones for the foreseeable.

Get used to the frustration,lara,and take a read through some of the older threads.It is an exhausting process with no guarantees.

With regard to your last question,I would call 101 and ask for HR.

Finally,just to make sure, put in a redirection for your new address so that any correspondence from PSNI is passed on and doesn't land on your old addresses doorstep